ATX_sig Posted October 23, 2020 Report Share Posted October 23, 2020 10 hours ago, KoB2011 said: Favors isn't in Utah anymore. Exactly. Rumor is Utah would like to bring him back so there might be a need for a guy like Turner in NO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2345 Posted October 23, 2020 Report Share Posted October 23, 2020 (edited) I just realized it's been discussed but the rumors about the Pacers interest in Hayword are starting to spike up again. I don't know what the Pacers would give up to get him because we can speculate that all day long but there seems to be a lot of smoke around Hayword and the Pacers this year. Edited October 23, 2020 by DC2345 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted October 23, 2020 Report Share Posted October 23, 2020 1 hour ago, DC2345 said: I just realized it's been discussed but the rumors about the Pacers interest in Hayword are starting to spike up again. I don't know what the Pacers would give up to get him because we can speculate that all day long but there seems to be a lot of smoke around Hayword and the Pacers this year. Saw the rumors on CBS sports this morning. No mention of players to be involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2345 Posted October 23, 2020 Report Share Posted October 23, 2020 28 minutes ago, rico said: Saw the rumors on CBS sports this morning. No mention of players to be involved. Nobody knows if there could be any kind of deal since teams can't negotiate yet. It's just being said that there are people in the Pacers front office that have interest in trying to acquire him this offseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted October 23, 2020 Report Share Posted October 23, 2020 11 minutes ago, DC2345 said: Nobody knows if there could be any kind of deal since teams can't negotiate yet. It's just being said that there are people in the Pacers front office that have interest in trying to acquire him this offseason. https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/pacers-have-interest-in-trading-for-celtics-gordon-hayward-per-report/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted October 23, 2020 Report Share Posted October 23, 2020 3 hours ago, DC2345 said: I just realized it's been discussed but the rumors about the Pacers interest in Hayword are starting to spike up again. I don't know what the Pacers would give up to get him because we can speculate that all day long but there seems to be a lot of smoke around Hayword and the Pacers this year. I would assume Turner would be involved in this. I don't think VO would fit with the celtics since they already have enough wings and they need a big man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2345 Posted October 23, 2020 Report Share Posted October 23, 2020 6 minutes ago, IU Scott said: I would assume Turner would be involved in this. I don't think VO would fit with the celtics since they already have enough wings and they need a big man. I would say Turner or it would have to be a 3 team deal but who know's. Time will tell if KP and Pritchard find a way to work out a deal. I'm not going to speculate on what players that Ainge might want because I have know clue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted October 23, 2020 Report Share Posted October 23, 2020 16 hours ago, ATX_sig said: Exactly. Rumor is Utah would like to bring him back so there might be a need for a guy like Turner in NO. Oh gotcha, that makes sense. Turner would be a good fit in NOLA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwtaylor1055 Posted October 27, 2020 Report Share Posted October 27, 2020 Since I keep seeing more and more about Hayward to Indy being a possibility, what about this? Turner/Doug/Lamb for Hayward 14th and 26th pick? - Turner is the main guy for this deal, McDermott cap filler and offers a bit of floor spacing, Lamb is an above average player and cap filler - Hayward is a nice fit next to Warren and can be interchangeable with him. 6.7 rebounds per game this past year, which is more than Turner. 14th & 26th pick give us 2 chances at having a little swing at some young talent to hopefully turn into something or can package together to a team that may want to trade down. Starters: Brogdon/Vic/Hayward/Warren/Sabonis Bench: Aaron/TJ or Sumner/resign Justin Holiday/14th draft pick or vet FA and Leaf/Goga and 26th pick and Alize Johnson at end of the bench Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybergates Posted October 27, 2020 Report Share Posted October 27, 2020 1 minute ago, dwtaylor1055 said: Since I keep seeing more and more about Hayward to Indy being a possibility, what about this? Turner/Doug/Lamb for Hayward 14th and 26th pick? - Turner is the main guy for this deal, McDermott cap filler and offers a bit of floor spacing, Lamb is an above average player and cap filler - Hayward is a nice fit next to Warren and can be interchangeable with him. 6.7 rebounds per game this past year, which is more than Turner. 14th & 26th pick give us 2 chances at having a little swing at some young talent to hopefully turn into something or can package together to a team that may want to trade down. Starters: Brogdon/Vic/Hayward/Warren/Sabonis Bench: Aaron/TJ or Sumner/resign Justin Holiday/14th draft pick or vet FA and Leaf/Goga and 26th pick and Alize Johnson at end of the bench I'd do that deal as the Pacers. Wonder if the Celts would. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted October 27, 2020 Report Share Posted October 27, 2020 48 minutes ago, dwtaylor1055 said: Since I keep seeing more and more about Hayward to Indy being a possibility, what about this? Turner/Doug/Lamb for Hayward 14th and 26th pick? - Turner is the main guy for this deal, McDermott cap filler and offers a bit of floor spacing, Lamb is an above average player and cap filler - Hayward is a nice fit next to Warren and can be interchangeable with him. 6.7 rebounds per game this past year, which is more than Turner. 14th & 26th pick give us 2 chances at having a little swing at some young talent to hopefully turn into something or can package together to a team that may want to trade down. Starters: Brogdon/Vic/Hayward/Warren/Sabonis Bench: Aaron/TJ or Sumner/resign Justin Holiday/14th draft pick or vet FA and Leaf/Goga and 26th pick and Alize Johnson at end of the bench Celts aren't giving us two first round picks for two role players and a marginal starter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwtaylor1055 Posted October 27, 2020 Report Share Posted October 27, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, KoB2011 said: Celts aren't giving us two first round picks for two role players and a marginal starter. Marginal starter? Myles would start on the Celtics over Theis or Williams. Myles is def an upgrade over anyone the Celtics have on their current roster or could bring in via FA given their cap space. He would improve both their offense and defense. Williams is up and coming but he's still very raw. Edited October 27, 2020 by dwtaylor1055 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted October 27, 2020 Report Share Posted October 27, 2020 58 minutes ago, dwtaylor1055 said: Since I keep seeing more and more about Hayward to Indy being a possibility, what about this? Turner/Doug/Lamb for Hayward 14th and 26th pick? - Turner is the main guy for this deal, McDermott cap filler and offers a bit of floor spacing, Lamb is an above average player and cap filler - Hayward is a nice fit next to Warren and can be interchangeable with him. 6.7 rebounds per game this past year, which is more than Turner. 14th & 26th pick give us 2 chances at having a little swing at some young talent to hopefully turn into something or can package together to a team that may want to trade down. Starters: Brogdon/Vic/Hayward/Warren/Sabonis Bench: Aaron/TJ or Sumner/resign Justin Holiday/14th draft pick or vet FA and Leaf/Goga and 26th pick and Alize Johnson at end of the bench Saw something on YouTube from a Celtic guy and this was his trade Celtics get-Turner and Lamb Pacers get- Hayward, Romeo and the 14th pick 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted October 27, 2020 Report Share Posted October 27, 2020 7 minutes ago, dwtaylor1055 said: Marginal starter? Myles would start on the Celtics over Theis or Williams. Myles is def an upgrade over anyone the Celtics have on their current roster or could bring in via FA given their cap space. He would improve both their offense and defense. Williams is up and coming but he's still very raw. Yes, Myles is a marginal starter. He may be an upgrade over Theis (not 100% convinced of that, but I digress), but it isn't much. He's a better weak side defender, but Theis is a better overall defender. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierhoopster Posted October 27, 2020 Report Share Posted October 27, 2020 8 minutes ago, dwtaylor1055 said: Marginal starter? Myles would start on the Celtics over Theis or Williams. Myles is def an upgrade over anyone the Celtics have on their current roster or could bring in via FA given their cap space. He would improve both their offense and defense. Williams is up and coming but he's still very raw. @BGleas? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierhoopster Posted October 27, 2020 Report Share Posted October 27, 2020 3 minutes ago, IU Scott said: Saw something on YouTube from a Celtic guy and this was his trade Celtics get-Turner and Lamb Pacers get- Hayward, Romeo and the 14th pick No way lol. Amazing how unrealistic some of these guys are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted October 27, 2020 Report Share Posted October 27, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, Hoosierhoopster said: No way lol. Amazing how unrealistic some of these guys are. For which side? To me this would seem to be a good trade for both sides. To me the 14th pick is nothing so great that the Celtics wouldn't want to give up. This draft looks very weak especially at the top of the draft. Edited October 27, 2020 by IU Scott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierhoopster Posted October 27, 2020 Report Share Posted October 27, 2020 Just now, IU Scott said: For which side? To me this would seem to be a good trade for both sides No lol, no way, no way in Hell would the C's actually give up Hayward AND a 14th pick, not to mention Romeo, for those two. That's just hysterically bad. Comedically bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted October 27, 2020 Report Share Posted October 27, 2020 Just now, Hoosierhoopster said: No lol, no way, no way in Hell would the C's actually give up Hayward AND a 14th pick, not to mention Romeo, for those two. That's just hysterically bad. Comedically bad. To me th 14th pick is not a huge thing to give up especially with how weak this draft is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierhoopster Posted October 27, 2020 Report Share Posted October 27, 2020 Just now, IU Scott said: To me th 14th pick is not a huge thing to give up especially with how weak this draft is. Well you're just wrong, lol. Where was Kawhi drafted? Etc etc etc. Come on, this trade idea isn't even in the realm of reasonable. It's boneheadedly bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwtaylor1055 Posted October 27, 2020 Report Share Posted October 27, 2020 15 minutes ago, KoB2011 said: Yes, Myles is a marginal starter. He may be an upgrade over Theis (not 100% convinced of that, but I digress), but it isn't much. He's a better weak side defender, but Theis is a better overall defender. lol okay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted October 27, 2020 Report Share Posted October 27, 2020 24 minutes ago, Hoosierhoopster said: Well you're just wrong, lol. Where was Kawhi drafted? Etc etc etc. Come on, this trade idea isn't even in the realm of reasonable. It's boneheadedly bad. I said in this years draft which is weak. If I wanted to do some research and see all of the 14th picks I could find some that didn't pan out as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted October 27, 2020 Report Share Posted October 27, 2020 Number 14 Year Player School/Country – Team 2019 Romeo Langford, Indiana – Boston Celtics 2018 Michael Porter, University of Missouri – Denver Nuggets 2017 Bam Adebayo, Kentucky – Miami HEAT 2016 Denzel Valentine, Michigan State – Chicago Bulls 2015 Cameron Payne, Murray State – Oklahoma City Thunder 2014 TJ Warren, NC State – Phoenix Suns 2013 Shabazz Muhammad, UCLA – Utah Jazz 2012 John Henson, UNC – Milwaukee Bucks 2011 Marcus Morris, Kansas – Houston Rockets 2010 Patrick Patterson, Kentucky – Houston Rockets 2000’s 2009 Earl Clark, Louisville – Phoenix Suns 2008 Anthony Randolph, LSU – Golden State Warriors 2007 Al Thornton, Florida State – L.A. Clippers 2006 Ronnie Brewer, Arkansas – Utah Jazz 2005 Rashad McCants, North Carolina – Minnesota Timberwolves 2004 Kris Humphries, Minnesota – Utah Jazz 2003 Luke Ridnour, Oregon – Seattle Supersonics 2002 Fred Jones, Oregon – Indiana Pacers 2001 Troy Murphy, Notre Dame – Golden State Warriors 2000 Mateen Cleaves, Michigan State – Detroit Pistons 1990’s 1999 William Avery, Duke – Minnesota Timberwolves 1998 Michael Dickerson, Arizona – Houston Rockets 1997 Maurice Taylor, Michigan – L.A. Clippers 1996 Predrag Stojakovic, Serbia & Montenegro – Sacramento Kings 1995 Eric Williams, Providence – Boston Celtics 1994 Yinka Dare, George Washington – New Jersey Nets 1993 Scott Haskin, Oregon State – Indiana Pacers 1992 Malik Sealy, St. John’s – Indiana Pacers 1991 Rich King, Nebraska – Seattle Supersonics 1990 Travis Mays, Texas – Sacramento Kings Well some good but a lot of misses with the 14th pick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierhoopster Posted October 27, 2020 Report Share Posted October 27, 2020 1 hour ago, IU Scott said: Number 14 Year Player School/Country – Team 2019 Romeo Langford, Indiana – Boston Celtics 2018 Michael Porter, University of Missouri – Denver Nuggets 2017 Bam Adebayo, Kentucky – Miami HEAT 2016 Denzel Valentine, Michigan State – Chicago Bulls 2015 Cameron Payne, Murray State – Oklahoma City Thunder 2014 TJ Warren, NC State – Phoenix Suns 2013 Shabazz Muhammad, UCLA – Utah Jazz 2012 John Henson, UNC – Milwaukee Bucks 2011 Marcus Morris, Kansas – Houston Rockets 2010 Patrick Patterson, Kentucky – Houston Rockets 2000’s 2009 Earl Clark, Louisville – Phoenix Suns 2008 Anthony Randolph, LSU – Golden State Warriors 2007 Al Thornton, Florida State – L.A. Clippers 2006 Ronnie Brewer, Arkansas – Utah Jazz 2005 Rashad McCants, North Carolina – Minnesota Timberwolves 2004 Kris Humphries, Minnesota – Utah Jazz 2003 Luke Ridnour, Oregon – Seattle Supersonics 2002 Fred Jones, Oregon – Indiana Pacers 2001 Troy Murphy, Notre Dame – Golden State Warriors 2000 Mateen Cleaves, Michigan State – Detroit Pistons 1990’s 1999 William Avery, Duke – Minnesota Timberwolves 1998 Michael Dickerson, Arizona – Houston Rockets 1997 Maurice Taylor, Michigan – L.A. Clippers 1996 Predrag Stojakovic, Serbia & Montenegro – Sacramento Kings 1995 Eric Williams, Providence – Boston Celtics 1994 Yinka Dare, George Washington – New Jersey Nets 1993 Scott Haskin, Oregon State – Indiana Pacers 1992 Malik Sealy, St. John’s – Indiana Pacers 1991 Rich King, Nebraska – Seattle Supersonics 1990 Travis Mays, Texas – Sacramento Kings Well some good but a lot of misses with the 14th pick Do you really think you have the handle on who might be drafted at 14 in this draft, how good that player may be, etc., by pulling up prior drafts, which, of course, included all kinds of outstanding players, a number of whom were overlooked. Btw, that goes way, way past #14. All kinds of outstanding, future all stars, etc. are drafted, routinely, at and after 14. And you're just glossing over Romeo, who was a lottery pick and was injured basically his entire rookie year. This is a patently stupid trade suggestion. No way in Hell the Celtics would take it, and yes, they know better than you, Scott. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted October 27, 2020 Report Share Posted October 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Hoosierhoopster said: Do you really think you have the handle on who might be drafted at 14 in this draft, how good that player may be, etc., by pulling up prior drafts, which, of course, included all kinds of outstanding players, a number of whom were overlooked. Btw, that goes way, way past #14. All kinds of outstanding, future all stars, etc. are drafted, routinely, at and after 14. And you're just glossing over Romeo, who was a lottery pick and was injured basically his entire rookie year. This is a patently stupid trade suggestion. No way in Hell the Celtics would take it, and yes, they know better than you, Scott. I did not make that draft up but a Celtic guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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