INDenizen Posted March 29, 2019 Report Share Posted March 29, 2019 I don't like to see kids transfer either, but I'm at the point where I'm going to give Archie a long leash (working within the rules of course) to build his team and potentially save his job. We may not like some of it, but if on and off the court this team and culture improve, then I for one will be satisfied. And Archie may have tried to convince him to stay. Since things have been going rough, some fresh faces, attitudes and skill sets interests me for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbmhoosier Posted March 29, 2019 Report Share Posted March 29, 2019 Called this 2 years ago. Good luck Clifton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier987 Posted March 29, 2019 Report Share Posted March 29, 2019 This was a long time coming - not surprising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted March 29, 2019 Report Share Posted March 29, 2019 58 minutes ago, HoosierJax said: He couldnt have been any worse than some,he should have got more PT after the Penn St. game We have no idea what goes behind the scenes like how his work ethic is or how hard he works. Does he come into the gym on his own and work on his game or does he just do the bare minimum to stay on the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier987 Posted March 29, 2019 Report Share Posted March 29, 2019 It's simple. If you're with the program you will stay...if not then you're leaving - it's called "getting with the program." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FKIM01 Posted March 29, 2019 Report Share Posted March 29, 2019 Sad, but not surprised. He wants to play...I don't blame him for that. Good luck, Clifton... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybergates Posted March 29, 2019 Report Share Posted March 29, 2019 35 minutes ago, dbmhoosier said: Called this 2 years ago. Good luck Clifton. You called it four days after Archie was hired and before Clifton made it to campus? Impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierJax Posted March 29, 2019 Report Share Posted March 29, 2019 9 minutes ago, IU Scott said: We have no idea what goes behind the scenes like how his work ethic is or how hard he works. Does he come into the gym on his own and work on his game or does he just do the bare minimum to stay on the team. Didnt Archie say something about him not practicing hard??...only one that i know of putting in extra time was Durham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADGERVOL Posted March 29, 2019 Report Share Posted March 29, 2019 Just now, HoosierJax said: Didnt Archie say something about him not practicing hard??...only one that i know of putting in extra time was Durham. And Hunter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybergates Posted March 29, 2019 Report Share Posted March 29, 2019 Best of luck Clifton. Hope you find the right place where you get some minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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milehiiu Posted March 29, 2019 Report Share Posted March 29, 2019 45 minutes ago, FKIM01 said: Sad, but not surprised. He wants to play...I don't blame him for that. Good luck, Clifton... I view this much the same as what happened to Grant. End of season sit downs with the coach. Was told that there was not going to be any more PT for him, than his first two seasons on the team . Differing, possibly, only in that we know that Grant Gelon wanted to stay. Too early to tell if the is/was the case with Clifton. Honestly... in either case. It's not easy for a coach, either. However kudos to Coach Miller, for making hard decisions, only in an effort to make his team better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indykev Posted March 29, 2019 Report Share Posted March 29, 2019 Whether kids want to stay or go, the fact is over 460 kids are moving so far and the Basketball season hasnt even ended yet. Many, many more to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUfan93 Posted March 29, 2019 Report Share Posted March 29, 2019 Best of luck to Clifton. Sad he didn’t get more opportunity to show what he could do but I think the writing was on the wall. Hope he finds a school where he can get some playing time and fits the program better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUB74 Posted March 29, 2019 Report Share Posted March 29, 2019 Best of luck to you Clifton. Classy farewell! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billingsley99 Posted March 29, 2019 Report Share Posted March 29, 2019 Best of luck young man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoHoosier Posted March 29, 2019 Report Share Posted March 29, 2019 2 hours ago, milehiiu said: Addition, by subtraction. Mile, I know you didn't mean it this way, and yes, I am taking it slightly out of context.... Without reading the rest of your post, it's easy to see you saying IU just got better without adding anything. In part, this is what you said as there are no new additions (we know about, and maybe you do). Either way, I do not like seeing such a statement made about a transfer. It's likely I am unreasonable asking that such statements not be made. Best of luck Clifton, I hope you are given greater opportunity and take full advantage of the blessing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zlinedavid Posted March 29, 2019 Report Share Posted March 29, 2019 From all accounts, good kid, just wasn't the right fit here. Hope he does well wherever he lands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehiiu Posted March 29, 2019 Report Share Posted March 29, 2019 7 minutes ago, PoHoosier said: Mile, I know you didn't mean it this way, and yes, I am taking it slightly out of context.... Without reading the rest of your post, it's easy to see you saying IU just got better without adding anything. In part, this is what you said as there are no new additions (we know about, and maybe you do). Either way, I do not like seeing such a statement made about a transfer. It's likely I am unreasonable asking that such statements not be made. Best of luck Clifton, I hope you are given greater opportunity and take full advantage of the blessing. First. And foremost. I have nothing against Clifton. Personally think he is a wonderful kid.... and is doing himself a favor by moving on. Addition by subtraction : Just take a look at his PT numbers for the last couple of years. I could not see him getting more, going into the future. Let's open up a scholarship for someone who, hopefully can get more PT, in just one season than Clifton got in two. Lastly... after checking the college bb transfers for the past two seasons..... the majority were guys, like Clifton who were not getting much to any PT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev_AK Posted March 29, 2019 Report Share Posted March 29, 2019 Clifton Moore has announced he is transferring from IU. Seems like a great kid, wish him and his family the best of luck. His letter to Hoosier Nation is classy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted March 29, 2019 Report Share Posted March 29, 2019 Nature of the beast these days. Best of luck Clif in your future endeavors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier987 Posted March 29, 2019 Report Share Posted March 29, 2019 1 hour ago, PoHoosier said: Mile, I know you didn't mean it this way, and yes, I am taking it slightly out of context.... Without reading the rest of your post, it's easy to see you saying IU just got better without adding anything. In part, this is what you said as there are no new additions (we know about, and maybe you do). Either way, I do not like seeing such a statement made about a transfer. It's likely I am unreasonable asking that such statements not be made. Best of luck Clifton, I hope you are given greater opportunity and take full advantage of the blessing. He’s absolutely right. It’s addition by subtraction. A scholarship doesn’t guarantee anything. If you don’t produce you will get recruited over. If we didn’t do this - some players would relax and think they have a free ride in Btown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FKIM01 Posted March 29, 2019 Report Share Posted March 29, 2019 14 minutes ago, Rev_AK said: Clifton Moore has announced he is transferring from IU. Seems like a great kid, wish him and his family the best of luck. His letter to Hoosier Nation is classy. Duplicate topic...merge, please! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehiiu Posted March 29, 2019 Report Share Posted March 29, 2019 1 minute ago, Hoosier987 said: He’s absolutely right. It’s addition by subtraction. A scholarship doesn’t guarantee anything. If you don’t produce you will get recruited over. If we didn’t do this - some players would relax and think they have a free ride in Btown Thank you 987. My post in no terms was meant to be disrespectful of Clifton. Clifton saw little no none PT in two years for him. Who knows what the future holds for him? Personally, unlike Grant Gelon.... the BB gods shine upon Clifton, and he can wind up some where.... where he can fulfill his BB dreams. I wish only the best for Clifton. Really believe for him, the old saying... when one door closes.... another opens up. It's happened to a number of IU players in the past. No reason it can't for Clifton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted March 29, 2019 Report Share Posted March 29, 2019 Fact is, as long as Archie fills all 13 schollies, there will be 4-5 guys not getting enough PT, and we will have transfers. Archie is going to play 8, 9 at most. Even with all the injuries this year, Cliff, Jake, Damezi, and to a lesser extent, Race, could not get on the floor. Sure, we can fill the scholarship, but why? It will just mean we will have one more player unhappy with PT next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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