Southern IN Hoosier Posted December 25, 2020 Report Share Posted December 25, 2020 14 hours ago, Brass Cannon said: It’s odd all 3 of his final choices were coaches on the hot seat of soon to be at least Archie is on the hot seat? According to who? Select fans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy1987 Posted December 25, 2020 Report Share Posted December 25, 2020 47 minutes ago, Southern IN Hoosier said: Archie is on the hot seat? According to who? Select fans? "if things go horrifically bad at Texas, Indiana, Stanford, Georgia Tech or SMU, a coaching change could become a realistic possibility." https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/college-basketball-coaches-on-hot-seat-who-is-lacking-job-security-and-might-need-a-good-2020-21/ Go Hoosiers!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iuvol Posted December 26, 2020 Report Share Posted December 26, 2020 On 12/17/2020 at 10:24 AM, rico said: Did the cupcakes have sprinkles? Probably Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brass Cannon Posted December 27, 2020 Report Share Posted December 27, 2020 On 12/25/2020 at 8:20 AM, Southern IN Hoosier said: Archie is on the hot seat? According to who? Select fans? People who aren’t pulling whatever excuses they can out of thin air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
go_iu_bb Posted December 27, 2020 Report Share Posted December 27, 2020 31 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said: People who aren’t pulling whatever excuses they can out of thin air. I'm certainly not finding excuses for Miller but I don't think his seat is hot. He'll almost certainly be back next year and his seat might be hot them but not now. Part of the reason I say that is because of COVID and its effect on this season and last. The main reason I say that, though, is because his buyout is currently $10M. If IU waits a year out is only 1/3 of that. His record hasn't been so bad as to justify paying that extra ~$7M and he doesn't have off-court issues. So I firmly believe he'll get 5 years whether or not he deserves that long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brass Cannon Posted December 27, 2020 Report Share Posted December 27, 2020 27 minutes ago, go_iu_bb said: I'm certainly not finding excuses for Miller but I don't think his seat is hot. He'll almost certainly be back next year and his seat might be hot them but not now. Part of the reason I say that is because of COVID and its effect on this season and last. The main reason I say that, though, is because his buyout is currently $10M. If IU waits a year out is only 1/3 of that. His record hasn't been so bad as to justify paying that extra ~$7M and he doesn't have off-court issues. So I firmly believe he'll get 5 years whether or not he deserves that long. His record hasn’t been bad enough? He’s never been in the top 5 of the conference. As the second highest paid coach. This right here. This lack of standards is why we aren’t a blueblood. A blueblood doesn’t hire Davis, Crean or Archie. The numbers also aren’t 10 and 3. They are 10 and 6.6 give or take. We fire him after this year he gets 10 million. Fire him after that and we have to pay him his yearly salary and 50% of his remaining contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
go_iu_bb Posted December 27, 2020 Report Share Posted December 27, 2020 27 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said: His record hasn’t been bad enough? He’s never been in the top 5 of the conference. As the second highest paid coach. This right here. This lack of standards is why we aren’t a blueblood. A blueblood doesn’t hire Davis, Crean or Archie. The numbers also aren’t 10 and 3. They are 10 and 6.6 give or take. We fire him after this year he gets 10 million. Fire him after that and we have to pay him his yearly salary and 50% of his remaining contract. You'll be very disappointed when he's not fired at the end of this season, then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted December 27, 2020 Report Share Posted December 27, 2020 42 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said: His record hasn’t been bad enough? He’s never been in the top 5 of the conference. As the second highest paid coach. This right here. This lack of standards is why we aren’t a blueblood. A blueblood doesn’t hire Davis, Crean or Archie. The numbers also aren’t 10 and 3. They are 10 and 6.6 give or take. We fire him after this year he gets 10 million. Fire him after that and we have to pay him his yearly salary and 50% of his remaining contract. How much of the buyout are you willing to pay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brass Cannon Posted December 27, 2020 Report Share Posted December 27, 2020 32 minutes ago, go_iu_bb said: You'll be very disappointed when he's not fired at the end of this season, then. Not really a defense for his performance. 19 minutes ago, IU Scott said: How much of the buyout are you willing to pay If chip in for sure. Would have to see my finances at the time for an amount. But I stopped donating to the university 2 years ago. So keeping Miller had already cost them 300 from me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
go_iu_bb Posted December 27, 2020 Report Share Posted December 27, 2020 Just now, Brass Cannon said: Not really a defense for his performance. That's because I'm not defending him. I'm telling you the view the AD will likely take. I will be very surprised if he doesn't get a 5th season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brass Cannon Posted December 27, 2020 Report Share Posted December 27, 2020 1 minute ago, go_iu_bb said: That's because I'm not defending him. I'm telling you the view the AD will likely take. I will be very surprised if he doesn't get a 5th season. I will too. But my no measure does he deserves and a program serious about winning would never keep him for year 5. You can be on the hot seat for multiple years. Usually saved by a contract Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OGIUAndy Posted December 28, 2020 Report Share Posted December 28, 2020 On 12/26/2020 at 11:36 PM, Brass Cannon said: I will too. But my no measure does he deserves and a program serious about winning would never keep him for year 5. You can be on the hot seat for multiple years. Usually saved by a contract So is every thread going to be about Archie and the hot seat? This is ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted December 28, 2020 Report Share Posted December 28, 2020 2 hours ago, OGIUAndy said: So is every thread going to be about Archie and the hot seat? This is ridiculous. Until he wins a lot more games or finishes in the top half of the B1G...probably. That or they fire him. I think next year will be when he really gets evaluated fully and make a decision but some people are much less patient then me. I mean if UK fans want to fire Cal then what do you expect from IU fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted December 28, 2020 Report Share Posted December 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, dgambill said: Until he wins a lot more games or finishes in the top half of the B1G...probably. That or they fire him. I think next year will be when he really gets evaluated fully and make a decision but some people are much less patient then me. I mean if UK fans want to fire Cal then what do you expect from IU fans. Then after they fire Archie the next coach comes in and after his first bad loss it will start over again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proud2BAHoosier Posted December 28, 2020 Report Share Posted December 28, 2020 24 minutes ago, IU Scott said: Then after they fire Archie the next coach comes in and after his first bad loss it will start over again. Nah, there will be a "honeymoon" period.... Just like with FCTC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted December 28, 2020 Report Share Posted December 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, Proud2BAHoosier said: Nah, there will be a "honeymoon" period.... Just like with FCTC I doubt that because after Archie's first game people were already all over him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OGIUAndy Posted December 28, 2020 Report Share Posted December 28, 2020 42 minutes ago, dgambill said: Until he wins a lot more games or finishes in the top half of the B1G...probably. That or they fire him. I think next year will be when he really gets evaluated fully and make a decision but some people are much less patient then me. I mean if UK fans want to fire Cal then what do you expect from IU fans. I don't think every single post/thread needs to be the same people talking about firing Archie and who the new coach should be and how long is too long etc.; one thread is good enough. The season is not over and he's not getting fired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proud2BAHoosier Posted December 28, 2020 Report Share Posted December 28, 2020 Time to lock this puppy??? 🙄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted December 28, 2020 Report Share Posted December 28, 2020 23 minutes ago, Proud2BAHoosier said: Time to lock this puppy??? 🙄 We don’t lock threads unless it violates the rules I believe. Just need to flush it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parakeet Jones Posted December 28, 2020 Report Share Posted December 28, 2020 25 minutes ago, dgambill said: We don’t lock threads unless it violates the rules I believe. Just need to flush it. That would require some news on potential recruits. 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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