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I agree. I believe Vic is more valuable to his team than any other player

Philly would be my guess

DWade in my opinion had the best mid range jumper of this era.

With or without first eastern conference team to sweep the spurs since 2013

Amen.

Good point. We play in a 4th grade league that you can only press last min of game. I hate pressing at this age for sure. Not much positive for either team in my opinion

No I wanted to be but where Coach Ellenberger became close I was a soph and u had to be a freshman. I was in Ellenberger basketball playing class and he likes how I played and he talked me into coaching as a career. For 3 years I went to practice most days and Coach would let me watch tape with him. People can say what they want about knight but his attention to detail was second to none he demanded perfection

Many years ago IU had a player whose body language was not necessarily poor but was always out of pisition on defense. If i am correct he is one of the all times steals leader. His name Luke Recker. I was watching defensive tape with Coach Norm Ellenberger and he would turn his back push stop and say Recker will be out of position. Every single time he was right. His athletic ability and knack for the ball made up for it. Luke and Knight went at it over his positioning. Luke would tell knight that if I were in the position you wanted me to be I would not have gotten the steal and Knight would fire back with several expletives and say and they would not have scored in the previous 4 possessions if you were in the right position. Know it's not what you were saying but reminded me of a great story and Coach Ellenberger.

My 4th grade team knows better than to throw that pass up 1 under 10 seconds. Get fouled hit 2 free throws and get a stop. Worse case scenario throw the ball toward your own basket. BTW which had 2 pacers wide open

What's not to love about that young man and this team. Such a great ambssador for Indiana university. Thank you CTC for bringing Vic to our Universty. We may not have fun a title under CTC but we have a lot of high character guys to be proud of.

Believe it or not I am aware of how the All Star teams are selected. In your first message about this topic yourself PGis clearly a top 10 player. I disagreed with that. If he is top 10 then there is no excuse to not make an all star team regardless of conference I know the bulk of great talent is in the West. I am too lazy to look it up but when was the last time a healthy top 10 player did not make the All Star team? Based on all that has been said does one assume then that PG only made the All Star team because the East is weak. If so then it's hard to say he is top 10 or 15. I am not comparing Vic to PG. But I would take a hungry combo of Vic and Sabonis that play like they want to be here over a player that clearly stated he did not want to. At times last year his play reflected that attitude. In his defense the team Larry built had a lot to do with that in my opinion.

From me there is no I'll will for PG. We own 4 jerseys he signed one for my son. I am a PG fan. My point the whole time has been that I believe Indiana got the better end of the trade all the way around.

I don't see any bashing. I don't think Vic will make the All Star game . My point is if he is a top 15 player then it really would not matter what position or conf. He plays in. Also top 15 would have put him 3rd team all NBA. If he would have been on 3rd team I believe he would still be here

Is that the list that has Rudy Gorbert ahead of Kyrie? I don't take much stock in it. Off top of my head LeBron, Kyrie,Hayward, John Wall and Greek freak ahead of PG. In all honesty PG probably is the 7th best guard in the west

If PG is the top 10-15 player that some claim it should make no difference what conf he plays in.

I have watched more games this year than the last 2 combined. If PG leaves after this year I feel OKC got SCREWED in this deal.

Today's trivia. When is 36.9 ppg <19.4 ppg Answer: when it's Vic and Sabonis vs PG.😃

I respectfully disagree. This was a barometer win because is was the back end of a back to back at Cleveland. Pavers were 0 and 2 this year on back end. I believe last year's team would lose that game. This team is finding ways to close. Not saying they will even make playoffs but I think this win does tell us a lot

Sabonis is 23 for 23 in the 3 Pacer victories.

I think this was a win win for both teams. The Pavers were going no where with PG at least there is hope . Now PG will get to play for something. I hated seeing PG go but now I am content with the trade.

Vic <PG Vic + Sabonis > PG

I agree completelywith all you are saying. The last couple years left a bad impression in my mind with the lack of effort he displayed. I think this was a win win trade for all involved. We own 4 PG jerseys and still waznt the best for him

By no means do I feel PG is clearly top 10. Top 20 maybe. Top 10 players are cold blooded assassins. They want to be the man and more times than not PG was going through the motions. If he spent as much time getting back on defense as he did yapping with the refs after what he thought a missed call he would be all defensive team every year. He is a good player that does not want to be the man. Never hit a game winner. I would take 2 guys with a chip on their shoulders that play hard and at least look like they want to be here. I like PG But do not miss him for a second