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  1. 4 minutes ago, Seeking6 said:

    Will need I think a 65 tomorrow to do it. No winds. Greens are soft. Guys are shooting 66 like it's no problem. He's going to need go pretty low. I'm ticked that I chose Justin Thomas in my pool last week and he went 1-22 from 12 feet....this week he's over a 50% clip from same distance. 

    Yeah, hoping for the best tomorrow with Tiger. Regardless of what happens it was a fun round to watch today. First bogey free round since the third round of the BMW last year. 

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  2. 58 minutes ago, Hoosierhoopster said:

    KDB, just looking at stats for Lakers players (a bad team this year) and comparing them only to Tatum and Brown's this season (playing with Kyrie) is at best an indirect comparison. This kind of purely stat-driven, limited view of player comparison just doesn't paint an accurate picture (and I have no 'dog' in the discussion between Lakers and Celtics). There are definitely reasons to see a lot of upside with Ingram., Kuz is a player for sure, just saying this kind of stat comparison just doesn't paint a fair comparison and is certainly not what team GMs would do.

    On pure stats, Tatum has a PER of 15.2 and WS of 12.0 in his 2-year "career". Last season he shot 43.4% from deep, and 49.2% from 2, and was a flat out stud. His numbers went down this season, with Kyrie, but he still was a much better shooter than Ingram, who btw has a career PER of 11.7 and WS of a whopping 4.5. Ingram shot 33% from deep both seasons. He's a career 66% FT shooter -- he can't shoot, at least yet. Tatum shoots 84% from the stripe. He also averages better boards. He's a more efficient player and a better scorer. Teams would absolutely take him first, and they should. 

    Brown v Kuz is much closer, Kuz is a big time player. Brown's the better shooter from deep, but Kuz has a career PER of 14.1, better than Brown's 12.8. Brown has a WS of 9 to Kuz's 7. Kuz is the better FT shooter at 73%, Brown's just not good at 66%. Their eFG% is essentially identical, 52%. I'd take Kuz over Brown, Kuz is the Lakers best player.

     

    Definitely not what team GMs would do. I was just putting the numbers there.

    Ingram shot 39% from 3 last year on more attempts than this year. He can shoot. Not great this year for sure. 

    Tatum and Ingram are without a doubt both special talents. The same goes for Brown and Kuz.

  3. 4 minutes ago, IU Scott said:

    Why do you think Kuzman and Ingram is better than Brown and Tatum because nothing I have seen would put them even close to being the same.

    Nothing you have seen would put them even close to being the same? Going off numbers alone, here they are from this past season for each individual.

    Ingram (33.8 mpg) - 18.3 ppg, 5.1 rpg, 3.0 apg - 49.7 FG% 33.0 3PT% --- Tatum (31.1 mpg) - 15.7 ppg, 6.0 rpg, 2.1 apg - 45.0 FG% 37.3 3PT%

    Kuz (33.1 mpg) - 18.7 ppg, 5.5 rpg, 2.5 apg - 45.6 FG% 30.3 3PT% --- Brown (25.9 mpg) - 13.0 ppg, 4.2 rpg, 1.4 apg - 46.5 FG% 34.4 3PT%

    Ingram and Kuzma are better 3pt shooters than the percentages indicate, not the best of years for those two from deep.

    I do agree with Gleas that the Celtics guys are more proven as team guys that can help you win. They displayed that in the 2017-18 playoffs.

    If I were a Celtics fan, there is a high chance that I would feel differently about this. That's just how it works usually.

    Either way, both teams are lucky to have these guys - all of them being very promising young talent.

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  4. 1 hour ago, BGleas said:

    You also have Ingram coming off a blood clotting issue

    Signs are pointing the right direction here. Should be able to continue his career without recurrence, thankfully. 

    He was really getting comfortable before he got hurt. 21ppg, 6rpg, 3apg in the month of February.. Basically automatic from mid-range, better shot-selection.

    The one guy I would really hate to see go if it were to happen via trade.

  5. 46 minutes ago, Hoosierhoopster said:

    Tatum and Brown are better. Kus is the best the Lakers have to offer. Lonzo is at best a question mark. Lakers couldn’t win anything without LeBron, failed with him, while Tatum and Brown shined as key players in Boston’s run to the EC finals last year. This year Kyrie screwed it all up.

    teams would take Tatum first 

    We can agree to disagree.

    Although I wouldn't, I do agree teams would take Tatum first, but I personally don't think he and Brown are better than BI and Kuz. 

    Curious to see where AD ends up though. Gonna be an exciting offseason this year, no doubt. 

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