IU Scott

Why? Stop going

Osterman had a n article stating the buyout for Woodson would be 1 mil a year for 12 years

He would be tied for first place with the majority of the fan base

I agree but I watch national podcasts and this is our reputation like it or not. I don't always agree with their takes but it is how they see us.

I just think we are to close to the situation and can't see the Forrest because of the trees. If course we don't see it as a problem because no one really wants to look in the mirror to see there are problems. Do I think the fans is the major reason we are at this point if course not. I also can see we are part of the problem as well. You say the fans are always here and support the team which I agree with. People outside sees how we've had 5 AD's, 6 coaches, 4 presidents and many different guys in administration since RMK left. They see that the fans are the only constant so they think we are part of the reason we are where we are at. They think the reason that we have had problems getting top coaches is because of the fans. Why would they leave their current job where they have job security to come here.

I agree but like it or not that is the reputation we have outside of our fan base. Sometimes perception becomes reality. Also when you are losing all the other coaches will use this in recruiting. Besides UK fans you never see anything nationally about other fan bases being lunatics.

I agree but most of the tickets had already been sold so they already have the money. I guess they would lose money from concessions and parking.

Why would you not watch the football team because you are unhappy with the basketball program. Majority of our sports programs have been pretty successful. I guess I don't see the reason to stop rooting for the other programs

I want guys who come from winning programs and know what it takes to win. You look at our guys from the portal mist came from losing programs. I think Walker is the only one who came from a winning program.

The problem is the extreme fans who are being vocal is what makes our reputation. Also the ones that goes after the coach personally and go after their families is where I would draw the line. I find nothing wrong critiquing his coaching and wanting a new coach.

The women announcer is horrible

I was just looking at the standings and this weekends schedule Even with how bad this season has been, if we beat MSU, NW beats Minnesota and UI beats Iowa we will finish 6th in the conference. That was pretty much where we were predicted to finish

I thought yesterday someone said that the Simons were going to give more money for NIL

Or just Woodson

So with that thinking no coach should ever get credit for kids development. They just get criticized if they don't develop

I see development this year from Ware and MM. I see growth from Reneau from last year. The problem is not recruiting or developing guards and wings.

Where did I say he was a good coach and I want him gone. It just seems like people think if you give him credit that you are backing him as the coach.

Most want Woodson gone but why can't people give him credit when it is warranted. I have criticized his coaching a lot because it is warranted but I can give him some credit as well.

I wouldn't say he hasn't developed any players. I would say how he has worked with Ware has been good. Also TJD got more rounded once Woodson got here.

Good thing we didn't trade India

I will be watching like usual hoping for a win. Last game was the first game in the last couple of weeks I could actually enjoy the game. Knowing he was coming back I was just rooting for a win instead hoping for a coaching change.

I guess having a job where you are driving all day allows me to listen to local sports radio Probably listens to it to much. Jake Queery called out the Hoosier Hysteric guys and does it a lot. He got on them for calling out fans for being to toxic and causing the Liam decomitment. He said fans like the hysterics are more of a problem because they are over bearing. He questioned why does 50 year old guys fawn over 17 year old recruits and seem.to he creepy. Queery doesn't think our fans are toxic but think we can be over bearing. I guess when Queery was at IU he was neighbors with Pat Knight and a lot of other players lived in the same complex. I guess after a Saturday game a bunch of the players and other people was watching TV and eating pizza. They noticed two strange guys that no one knew and I guess they were 40 years old and we're jealous st IU fans. They don't know how they got into the party but heard the two guys bragging about partying with basketball team. After those two guys left the players were stunned how creepy that was and pretty much made fun of those two. I think our fans think they are part of the program and try to help it out but some over steps the boundaries.

No problem, I was just thinking off the top of my head. Mainly was saying that the top teams weren't built around the portal or all one and done players.

What? How was I looking for a fight

I know we as fans we are to close to the situation. Outside of this fan base our reputation is not very good. I guarantee you that other coaches us this against us. If we were winning it wouldn't matter but when we are mediocre it will influence kids decisions.