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Love that runner to the left off the board. Great addition to the arsenal.

Lebron with 17/10/2 before the half and you could argue that he’s had a B- type half.

You guys catch Horford flinching at the FT the other game then trolling and faking it on TT ft?! Awesome

😛 I just think we’re right and you and 6 are saying I’m aggressive and senisitive because you can’t dispute my arguments. scotts right though. 1a and 1b is the best way to look at it.

Definitely wasn’t in attack mode. I just don’t buy into the hating on lebron and Durant. If I came off aggressive it’s because I have strong opinions in it. Anyway, we’re all Hoosiers here and if we disagree that’s great and we can talk about it. Im having a good day. I got all the yard work done and now it’s relaxtion mode. Hope you’re having a nice day.

https://mobile.twitter.com/TheHerd/status/862404404338544640/video/1 Wanna talk about super friends? Google Michael Jordan record without pippen. (Its 1-9) the year Jordan missed the bulls still should have won it all. Pippen averaged 22, 9, and 6 with 3 steals. Jordan had a B-B+ version of lebron his entire career..except when he didn’t and couldn’t win a game in the playoffs. But 6-0 right? @dbmhoosier

We’ve both said our pieces and I think we both have valid reasons for how we perceive Durant (obviously I loved the Lebron move to Miami when that happened). To each their own. I’ll say this though I can’t wait to watch Lilliard go absolutely nowhere for the rest of his career. Let’s see how far that ego takes ya pal.

Good for you. That’s ridiculous.

People talk out of both sides of their mouth on this one too. You get crapped on if you don’t win titles. You get crapped on if you leave and win a title. It’s absurd. I’d call it ambition by leaving and trying to win while bettering your life.

Why is that a big factor for you? That line of thinking is a silly macho man egotistical way of thinking that annoys me. He’s a grown man with his own life to lead. He owes nothing to anyone. Why does he have to force himself to be miserable and stick to a losing situation where he doesn’t like his coach or his teammates just to look like a competitor to you? Does anyone look happy with Westbrook? George, kd, melo, Ibaka, harden, oladipo? You wanna love in a city where there’s not much room for financial growth or live in the hotbed of growth that’s Silicon Valley? You wanna play on a team that’s not fun to play with or play with a team that could go down as the best that’s ever been and win 2-7 titles? There’s free agency for a reason. You don’t have to stay in a shitty situation just to look like a tough guy. That’s nonsense. It’s not a chickenshit move it’s logical, legal, and even admirable because he’ll be vilified when he shouldn’t be. Like I said to each there own and if that’s your line of thinking then fine but personally I think it’s extremely archaic. Respectfully disagree here of course. @Hoosierhoopster

Both those guys are in Rico. Neither have a ring as well.

Yeah, this hot take media nonsense shouldn’t last but another 5 years I reckon. Young people are too savy to put up with that bull. Hmmmm. Who’s that?

You’ve got a very good point there. I think that’s beyond ridiculous. There’s free agency for a reason. In Europe they call it ambition when you want to win titles and don’t dish out ridicule for forcing yourself to stay in a bad situation. What’s the issue? You want to win?! Shame shame shame on you for bettering your situation! Tsk tsk no no don’t do that. It’s beyond ridiculous. So you’re drafted to Sacramento and you’re a top 10 player now, maybe top 3 in year 4...no you can’t leave! You’re too good.

I don’t.

Fair enough if that’s a factor for you. To each their own.

Whys that? He’s still in his 20s with an MVP and a ring while scoring 27.1 a game. He’s a decent rim protector now too. Wades on 22 pg and got his 3 rings with Shaq and lebron (granted that Shaq team was clearly his).

Durant would lead the league in scoring by a wide margin every year if he didn’t play with Russ and on this stacked warriors squad. I think he ends up top 10.

The rockets really gonna pull this off? I’d like to see it. Dantoni deserves a ring before he goes out IMO.

We’ll get back to this later. EJ on fire! 8 already.

I think Lebron people get defensive because we’ve been putting up with bs fake news from the talking heads for about a decade now. The arrogance that comes out of some of these so called experts mouth when the debate comes up used to really make my blood boil. He wasn’t even halfway into his career and a few finals losses ended the debate in some pundits mind. You had that fake bullshit about Kobe being better than him and Kobe being clutch when in all actuality his numbers were terrible in crunch time (think it’s last two of the fourth?). You had that fake news about Lebron lacking the clutch gene. You had the nonsense about him not being a closer and him defering to Wade in late game situations. You had the nonsense about him being afraid to attack the rim because he’s afraid to shoot free throws in late game situations. You got the 6-0 argument thrown in your face when the teams Jordan beat don’t stack up to those warriors or spurs teams. They never talk about the four first round defeats or the fact that he has a losing record in close out games for Jordan. They ignore the fact that he had one of the greatest coaches in history, one of the best two way players in Pippen, one of the best defenders in history in Rodman, and extremely solid players in Kukoch, grant, Armstrong, etc. He had knockdown three point shooters in Kerr + Paxon too. You had that silliness about how tough the defense was back then and how the game isn’t the same. I could go on but I hunk that’s enough. (What also doesn’t get brought up is that little hiatus Jordan took when we all suspect he had to take a nap because of the gambling. We don’t talk about that because he’s God Tier and to question Jordan is insanity.)

I’m so confused. We’re in 100% agreement for the first time ever! I like the 1a - 1b shout. That’s very fair. It’s no surprise at all to me that Hoosier fans give Lebron the fair credit and respect he deserves.

I meant more of in a top 5 who’s better if bird didn’t have a bad back. I’ve got magic over him but was curious if the back would have changed that.

I caught the tail end of magic + bird era, an injured bird for me too being born in 84. Bird have him beat if not for the back or still magic? @Hoosierhoopster

I’ve got him over Kobe personally.

@KoB2011 @FW_Hoosier @Hoosierhoopster I also watched Jordan live a few times and saw both. Lebron is already the goat for me. Is it kind of impossible to debate? Maybe/kinda. For me Lebron is the best. I feel like people aged 30-40 are the ‘best judges’ because they grew up as Jordan kids and have seen the league in both eras. People want to talk about 6-0. How about 6-7 in elimination games. ‘Take that for data!’