BornHoosier

So from what I’ve read is that Logan Duncomb was a bad signing due to no outside shot or presence?  Do I need to remind you that Vic Dipo couldn’t hit water if he fell out of a boat in the Pacific Ocean coming into College?  The kid seems to have all the other measurables that you want & thankfully as we have witnessed, a shot can be found.  

3 minutes ago, KoB2011 said:

And Garza averaged 10 points per game more than him because he had a more well rounded game... 

Yes Sir but please realize that players like Garza are very rare & we can’t expect every big that commits to IU to be that player.  Bigs dominate the paint, wings/guards dominate the 3pt line is how it should be.  Cody Zeller, Noah Vonleah, TJD NEVER had an outside shot?

6 minutes ago, BGleas said:

Great point, it is possible to dominate in the paint and be a weapon from 3. Would be great if Duncomb developed like that. 

Of course, but TJD has no issues w/o a 3 pt shot!  I guess my understanding of a Big is different today than when i grew up.  If you need an outside shot to be successful, you might be a 4 instead of a 5.

1 minute ago, BGleas said:

Uh, Garza hit 39 three’s this season shooting 36% from beyond the arc  

I understand that but has nothing to do with his dominance in the paint!  If he didn’t have an outside shot, teams still wouldn’t be able to guard him in the post.  That is just an added bonus to his NBA resume but I want BIGS to dominate the paint first.  The kid from IL dominated the paint w/o any outside shot.  

1 minute ago, KoB2011 said:

Garza was a big weapon from three... 

Occasionally yes but that had nothing to do with his dominance in the paint!

Since when do we expect a BIG to develop an outside shot?  Did Luka Garza dominate at the 3 pt line or in the PAINT?  I want our BIGS to DOMINATE in the area they man & that’s in the PAINT!!!  I thought Guards & Wings were supposed to have an outside game??  Bigs who need a jumper are Bigs who can’t dominate!!!  

This kid will be a staple come his Jr/Sr season mark my words!  75-100 ranked players take a yr or two to develop at this level but come yr 3/4 we won’t care!  How long did it take Luka Garza to become dominant?  This is an Iowa/Wis type player that other teams will hate in just a few short yrs!  Patience HSN

On 2/14/2020 at 12:35 PM, dgambill said:

My question to you...and probably a reason why people differ on the state of the program....how long do you think it takes to turn around the program. I would say my expectations are that it is going to take a minimum 5 years for us to see if a program is headed in the right direction. IU gave Archie a 7 year contract meaning they likely as well think 5 full years is a good idea to see if we are turning this around or not. Meaning the last two years would be used only if necessary (iffy) on  him or to have time to extend him and to not hurt his recruiting chances by letting him go into a contract year. If you think after year 3 the jury should decide...you aren't in line with what IU thinks..and probably a lot of people you disagree with on this board. Sure...he could have went gang busters and knocked it out in year 2 and 3 and be on his way to a final four and we have our answer but that would be likely unrealistic. We could have a team falling apart with losing seasons, getting arrested, coach getting arrested, flunking out but we aren't....we are a team that has been basically avg. I would say avg is a pretty good result given the circumstances of when he got hired. I think your expectations of where you want us to be is perfectly fine...I want us there too...but my opinion...you are asking too much too fast. Guy had 1 season with nobody he recruited and no talent...1 season with a few kids he recruited...some talent but spent most of it fighting injuries...and third year with talent and improving record wise. It's inconsistent at times but 18 year olds are just that. I mean look at Roy at UNC. On paper he has way more talent than Archie but his team is tanking. I just think you are expecting too much too soon and probably others are too. The roster is slowly getting turned over....and if after 5 years he hasn't accomplished what we expect which is competing for B1G titles and making a run in the tourney or not even close to looking like it. Ok. But this is year 2.5 ..basically a third of what he is contracted for...not sure anyone could do much more with what Archie landed with any faster.

BRAVO!!!  Most IU fans forget that the Cody led Hoosiers were the #1 seed but failed to get past the sweet sixteen!!!  Watching reruns of this team makes me sick as to how we didn’t make it to at least the final four!  Insert CAM and with a less talented squad didn’t make the Tourney in his first two yrs as the team struggled to buy in!  By yr three if it wasn’t for a Frosh B10 player of the yr, the Hoosiers would’ve missed the Tourney again!  Fast forward to yr 4, and it all seems to come together as TJD returns and 5 star talent is added to the pg position!  Question is, does this team buy in to CAM system or TBD...

For ever Vic Dipo there is a bust!!!  If IU is handing out scholarships to kids like Geronimo, it’s a reach IMO and not what we need to compete for a NC.  We’re now counting on a player that has weaknesses to hone his game & become ALL PRO like Vic Dipo!  Not saying this kid can’t replicate Vic but ODDS say otherwise!!  Prove me wrong Geronimo that your fate isn’t the same as DA!  This program can’t wait until your JR season until your ready so let’s go!