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I didn't see Parker's 4th, but the 1st was questionable and the 2nd and 3rd were absolutely awful calls. No one else on the floor is getting that sort of thing called on them.

43 minutes ago, Pudman said:

Perhaps this might be a good thread to add this to, or perhaps not. I'll let the mods decide.

I got curious the other day about where the players have been taking their shots on the court. My curiosity was sparked when someone was chatting about where PS tends to take his shots, and how he rarely, if ever, drives. So, I found a dataset on Sportsradar that has play-by-play data for every game any includes x/y coordinates. Using that dataset, I put together this dashboard of player shot selection, type, and where the shots are taken on the court. 

Let me know what you all think! https://public.tableau.com/views/IUMBB20212022ShotChart/Dashboard1?:language=en-US&:display_count=n&:origin=viz_share_link

I thought it would be fun to put this together, since winter break between semesters is long and I need something to do. Plus, it could be fun to have my students create this in a data viz class I teach.

That's great work - thank you.

2 hours ago, Seeking6 said:

Just your weekly reminder that Woodson has been in charge for only 9 months or so. Amazing the elevation in recruiting he's done already. Securing visits (as of now) for the elite of elite recruits? Thank you very much. This is all we've ever wanted. 

If getting guys on campus won games, you would have needed a new username years ago.

14 minutes ago, NotIThatLives said:

Uk ministry of health said most cases mild recently.  

I found this quote a few months ago.  Not a direct shot at anyone but if you prescribe to mainstream media in any format, they make money by manipulation and fear.  Its a fact and they have admitted it.  

I would argue a better summation of the past 20 months would be too many people refusing to take simple measures to protect themselves and others, and as a result more than 800,000 Americans and millions worldwide have died. Also not a shot at anyone.

1 hour ago, NotIThatLives said:

I was reading some stuff last week about South Africa.  Can't remember the source because i don't go to any websites consistently, just random stuff that I come across.  Anyways, in the comments was a bunch of South African people responding and talking about the contagiousness.  They said, EVERYBODY got it.  Comment after comment was yes my entire family, social group, coworkers, everyone had had it in the recent past.  The consensus among them was the same as other reports, no serious but highly contagious.  

What that means for the US sporting product with current protocols?  Lots of cancelations over sniffly physical specimens.  But if the contagiousness is as advertised.  It will roll through very quickly and we will be talking about the next variant before march madness.  

I think you're right, but my random internet sources on South Africa tell me that large swaths of people there wouldn't go to a hospital even if they were about to die. They also tell me that overall death is up in SA, though it's unclear exactly how much. So, we will have to see what happens in a more westernized country before we can really know. 

24 minutes ago, 5fouls said:

Race can handle the ball and play a little bit on the perimeter.  That's a significant advantage at the next level.  

He does not do those things at an NBA level. TJD at least has some NBA level skills. I don't think his overall game translates well, but he at least has some skills that would interest an NBA team. Race does not.

3 hours ago, iuswingman said:

Al and Brunk didn't want to leave (aka forced out)?

Brunk didn't even count against the scholarship limit, so I can't imagine he was forced out.

Has any IU player in the past 10 years ever made a step back jumper? They seem to like shooting them, though.

1 hour ago, IU878176 said:

I agree that they would not say anything officially but things can come out if they want and/or I would guess Logan could say something.

That being said, the reason for Devontes suspension was also kept quiet. I didn’t know what happened for sure until I heard an interview with Morgan after the season was over.

What did Morgan say?

We somehow dropped this week.

10 hours ago, 13th&Jackson said:

Franklin with 7 points on 3-9 shooting in VAs win over Coppin St. His second straight game 0-4 from three. Other than his 5-8 game against Radford, in their other three games, he’s 1-15 from three

I feel slightly bad about it, but I smile each time Franklin has a bad game. I'm rooting for Al and Hunter, don't care one way or the other about Brunk.

1 hour ago, IUFLA said:

I don't think the conference is as good as it was last year by any stretch...the B1G lost 9 of the 15 all Big Ten players from last year. The kids jumping ship from the lower tier teams (Nebraska, Penn St, Minnesota) kinda hurt the "strong top to bottom" argument, and Wisconsin, Illinois, Michigan, and Rutgers all lost important pieces without the replacements or the depth to make up for them.

No doubt. I think the bottom half of the conference is considerably worse than 2/3 years ago when we were so deep. The top of the conference is still quite good, though. I think Michigan probably brought in enough to replace their losses. Wisconsin and Illinois did not.

A rule that applies differently based on whether you are "approximately" 3 feet outside the lane - what could possibly go wrong?

The foul on the Nevada kid was really remarkable. Both players, including the one who was just fouled, looked at the ref with absolutely no idea why a whistle was just blown. And that's what they pick to exemplify things being done properly. If someone who has spent his entire life playing organized basketball just got fouled without knowing it, you need to rethink that rule.

Can someone remind me how Big Ten + works. If you subscribe, you can see every IU game, regardless of where it was originally aired, but only the day after - is that right?

1 minute ago, BeerBQ said:

I don’t know that it’s necessarily success or if it’s more about access. 

Fair enough.

5 minutes ago, BGleas said:

Largely agree. I don’t love everything they do, but for the most part I think there really good. The podcast is a great listen. 

To me, they're like the IU version of Bill Simmons before he blew up and he was known as the "Boston Sports Guy". 

A lot of people hated him because he wasn't a reporter, he was a fan that turned his fandom into a career, but there was a jealous "why not me" kind of attitude towards him. 

Very similar from some IU fans toward the Hysterics IMO. 

I don't know a whole lot about these guys, but do they really have the level of success that people could be jealous of? 

1 hour ago, Stlboiler23 said:

Curious to hear why you think they’re overrated?

I figured you would come out of the woodwork for this conversation.

If you look back at the results from last year - obviously the tournament, but there were signs before that - I think the conference as a whole was overrated. So, your success from last year isn't quite as impressive as some make it out to be, and therefore returning the guys from that team isn't as big of a deal as some make it out to be. I'm not suggesting you have a bad team, but I would drop them down 10 spots in the polls.

I didn't grow up an IU fan, so I don't have the ingrained Purdue hatred that a lot of people here have, but I still think they're overrated. I will be surprised if they compete for the BIG title. I think OSU and Michigan will be at the top. By tournament time MSU and IU will be right there with them, but both of us will lose a few winnable games early in the conference, so we won't have a shot at the regular season crown.

I agree with you on Illinois - I'd say they're a bubble team. They'll make it, but not by that much. Northwestern is more of a true bubble team and might not make it.

14 minutes ago, NotIThatLives said:

And the hint from our insider that guys may have been quarantined.  

I mean, do we want a public injury report or do we hold the cards to the vest?  I think we are seeing Coach's strategy already.  Not a peep unless someone heard it from a friend who heard from a friend that one of the players is in a boot.  And i like that.  

I have no information, other than what I read here, but this is the only thing that makes any sense. Even if half of our team had broken legs, why not let the other half and a bunch of walkons play? The only thing that makes any sense is that we didn't want to risk exposing the other team.

1 hour ago, IUwins0708 said:

I’m afraid Tom Allen is similar to the other Tom we had that coached basketball.  Hope I’m wrong and he’s just having a bad year

I came into the year with low expectations for the football team, but we do need to acknowledge that every team we've lost to has spent significant time in the top 10. We have a killer schedule, too soon to get down on Allen.

15 hours ago, IU Scott said:

I thought the NIL required using your likeness or your name for something.  It seems like just giving a kid a car is not what the rule is for.

I'm sure they are going to tell people that he drives their car, and they'll have to use his name to do that. This is exactly what should be happening. I hope we have car dealerships that want to do the same.

3 hours ago, kyhoosier29 said:

I’m sure he’s doing something in return right? Or does he just have to drive it around and that’s marketing for the company? Seems like if he needs a car anyway, that he would need to do more than just drive this full time as a benefit. 🤷🏻‍♂️

It's entirely possible that the dealership makes out in this deal, but that's not why they are doing it. They are trying to help the team by giving cool stuff to players.

I'm sure there are tax implications, if nothing else, he is taking in the equivalent of a free lease. But, I'm sure the dealership, or some other booster, can just cover that.

6 hours ago, Fundamentals said:

This is not an attempt to guess starters exactly, but more intended as a discussion starter, but also because I can hardly wait for the season to begin. 
 

Anchors:

TJD

Race

X

Kopp

Bates

Rotation guys:

Stewart

Geronimo

Durr

Galloway

Phinisee

Leal

(and on Leal, thought he was underutilized by Archie.  Smart, unselfish, and a potential breakout 3-pt. threat, he could help if given an opportunity)

 

Likely struggle to get minutes:

Lander

Duncomb

 

I don't see us going 11 deep. Seems to me that if Leal wants playing time, he is going to either have to take it from Kopp or Stewart. If Galloway wants it, he is going to have to shoot.

6 minutes ago, Euroclydon said:

Not sure how the numbers work out but I have to believe CMW knows who's likely to move on after the season.

Trying to look at it logically and make an educated guess, this is what I come up with so far...

Lock to go NBA: TJD - whether he develops a perimeter shot or not.

Likely to go pro (overseas), transfer or just be done with basketball: 

Race - been here forever it seems (22 years old already), almost left once, and i'm guessing he has his degree already. I'd say he is headed overseas to make some money or looking to move closer to home to finish up his last eligible season. The NBA does not appear to be an option.

Rob - assuming his role this season is mainly defensive stopper and backup PG, he will take his degree and his four years at IU and move on. Even overseas seems like a reach for him at this point. And I'm not even sure he would use his extra year of eligibility to play basketball. 

50/50 to go pro (NBA or overseas) or transfer:

Parker - He's 23 years old now. He already has two degrees if I remember correctly. Depending on how well he does this season it could go either way. He hung around for a reason but his family situation may force him to decide sooner than later.

Kopp - I can see him declaring if he has a big season. Get the impression he's going to be a focus of the offense or at least get a healthy chance to prove he can be the guy opposite TJD. 

Xavier - The opportunity is there for X to showcase his skills. If IU makes a run and he leads the way I can see him taking his shot at the NBA.

Staying Put:

Durr - He's counting on the season after TJD leaves to have his chance. Until then he's coming off the bench. Seems unlikely to transfer again.

The rest of the team is likely to return unless they become angry about playing time or just see the writing on the wall with Hood-Schifino, Banks, and Gunn already committed and at least one more likely to be added. Even guys like Leal and Trey who are IU guys from birth may end up realizing they want to play more.

The point to all of this is, keep adding quality players. They're going to need them.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I won't pretend to know how many years a guy like Race wants to stay in college, but IU brings in a lot more money than some 2nd tier European league, so I would guess the NIL will cause IU players to make more than those guys. It's one thing to leave a year of eligibility on the table to go start making money (basketball or otherwise), but to do so and take a pay cut makes a lot less sense. But, that is contingent on IU boosters being proactive in a way that I have no evidence of them doing. 

I would love to be wrong, but Kopp seems a long way from declaring for the draft. 

Where does the talk of Kopp and Race leaving after this year come from? They're starters that have virtually no chance of playing in the league. They can probably go to Europe if they choose, but I doubt they would make the high paying leagues. It very much seems like they will be with us for 2 more years.