SteveS

Nice win!! Tied for #1 in the BIG!

I hate PK's...

2 minutes ago, Reacher said:

Refs sure don't like Malik 

That first foul was total crap.

2 minutes ago, NotIThatLives said:

Anyone know the latest line?  

IU, 29, 150.5

So, not only is Galloway not starting, he isn't even playing. That's disappointing. 

Just now, btownqb said:

We playing at UCLA on a week night for a basketball game? 

I have to think that a year and a half of online classes has changed some people’s thought process towards “attending class”

9 hours ago, jimsorgi said:

It is unlikely that university researchers are sufficiently biased that they’d be trying to stop HCQ use in order to support big pharma while accepting additional deaths. 
 

There are a number of research studies with mixed results (at best), and the latest study is not a full review of HCQ (as there are a number of confounding variables - even the conclusion of the study is just that it merits research). It’s a bit too much to say HCQ definitively does not work, but there’s little evidence today supporting that it is particularly effective. 

Did you listen to the podcast? Some of the studies done are criminal. 

On 7/5/2020 at 7:25 PM, Reacher said:

https://www.ijidonline.com/article/S1201-9712(20)30534-8/fulltext

This was kind of lost in news over the holiday weekend. Basically,  a peer reviewed study published in the Journal of Infectious Diseases says hydroxychloroquine reduced deaths by 60-70%. 

Might be partially why deaths are decreasing despite the increase in cases. 

Could be a game changer 

 

Here is an interview with an ER doctor regarding HCQ. It’s about an hour long, but worth it.

TMR 246 : Dr. Simone Gold : On the Politicisation of HCQ

I think the reality is that HCQ and zinc is the cure but big pharma can’t make any money on that.

3 hours ago, Parakeet Jones said:

Race to be run at 50% capacity. I got an email from IMS stating I should be able to get seats close to my regular ones since I only get two. Everyone is limited to two tickets, so if you normally have a group of 20, you have to figure out which 18 folks you’re going to mess over.  
 

At least I will have some room to spread out for once. 

I understand there to be a priority system in place. I found out tonight that we are getting 6 of our usual 8 seats. We’ve been getting tickets every year since 1969, so I think we have a high priority number. I’m not sure though, my brother takes care of the tickets for the family.

11 hours ago, Seeking6 said:

Seems to me there's about 4 groups here in Indy area.

1) Total lock down still. Rarely go out. No visitors,etc..

2) People who wear mask at all times out in public, run normal errands but still  aren't going out or seeing others.

3) People  who wear mask when they go to store...but are getting together with friends more and more often recently at outdoor restaurants, cookouts, bars, golf,etc..while still practicing social distancing. 

4) People walking around like it's no big deal. Belly up to the bar. No mask, no hand sanitizer...ever.

I find myself mostly in group 2....with a desire to be in group 3 at some point but I still find myself hesitant to do anything besides golf and bike/beers on the Monon Trail and remain outside at stops. 

Put me in group 3.75. I use hand sanitizer sometimes and I only wear a mask to get into Costco. I’d be closer to 4, but all the actual bars at the bars are not allowed to be open, so I can’t belly up to any yet.

3 hours ago, mrflynn03 said:

Always let some know where you are when you go outdoors.  A few years ago was hiking in brown county while camping with the wife. Sprained my ankle on the trail for the umpteenth time in my life. Not the worst but still had to hobble, hop, and drag my fat ass 3/4 mile uphill to the parking lot. 

When outdoors keep you legs,ankles, and feet healthy. 

The last time I was attempting to summit Torreys peak (a 14,000 ft peak in Colorado) via the Kelso ridge (a class 3 climb) there were  two helicopters searching for a missing hiker. They found him the next day dead, not 100 yards from the trail I would have been on had I continued up. It was July and the snow was still so deep last summer that my nephew and I ended up turning back about a half mile from the summit.

let people know indeed...

53 minutes ago, DWB said:

SteveS. Looks like you did all the right things for the fix. Turned out looking really good!

Can't tell from the pics, not sure how much slope you have between the house and drive. You might want to get a couple of the flexible downspout extensions to make sure the roof water gets all the way to the driveway. Last thing you need is to get any back wash up against the house in a heavy rain.

Yeah, my brother is finishing all that up.  I only had 1 week there for us to get all the major work done. None of the downspouts were reattached when I had to leave Sunday morning. 

Some pics of the project. It turned out looking pretty good.

10 hours ago, Hoosierhoopster said:

Keep seeing misleading result-oriented citing . Shouldn't be surprising because people keep doing it to fit their narrative, instead of actually looking at local, state, and nationwide studies from non-politically backed "studies." The source tracking is easy, leave the politically backed studies out. Do us the favor of not trying to engage on this, not going to.

Good site, as an example, with the important message that goes with just looking at a chart, Johns Hopkins: https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/new-cases-50-states

The message: 

"As states throughout the U.S. lift stay-at-home orders, reopen businesses, and relax social distancing measures, this graph shows whether cases of COVID-19 are increasing, decreasing, or remaining constant within each state.

Federal guidelines advise that states wait until they experience a downward trajectory of documented cases within a 14-day period before proceeding to a phased opening. Lifting social distancing measures prematurely, while cases continue to increase or remain at high levels, could result in a resurgence of new cases.

In this visualization, states that appear in shades of orange have experienced a growth in new cases over the past two weeks. States that appear in shades of green have seen declines in cases over the same period of time. The shade of the colors indicates the size of each state’s growth or decline in new cases; the darker the shade, the bigger the change."

-- The charts/graphs reflect that 16 states have experienced various levels of growth of COVID-19 cases over the past 2 weeks, and 23 or so (the green shading, some virtually white) have experienced various levels of declines over the past 2 weeks.

As we're talking 2-week periods of reported new cases, there's also going to be lag in reported cases, the next 2-4 weeks are going to be more reflective of actual new cases as many states have only recently opened up or are still doing so.

As an aside, AZ looks awful, DC and IL are looking great, as of now. Not sure what's going on in  AZ

So what?

I have basically stayed out of this whole debate because I’ve been working long hours and haven’t had time to do anything but read here occasionally. What I see is a country that is being destroyed. I’m so tired of the arguments for keeping everybody locked up, until when? Seriously, if you are that damn worried stay at home. Let me decide if I want to take the risk of living my life. There will not be a workable vaccine for this virus anytime soon. If they do come out with an RNA vaccine in the next two years, there is no way in hell I will allow anyone in my family to get it (look into RNA vaccines and the ferret studies). Keep your immune system strong (eat healthy, take vitamins C and D3) and be sensible interacting with other people (wash up, wear a mask if you need to). Most importantly pray. Individual responsibility seems to be lost in today’s world, just let me be responsible fo myself and my family.

32 minutes ago, Reacher said:

I had a 50s ranch that I remodeled. There was no vapor barrier and the insulation had pretty much disintegrated. For part of the house I had access to the interior and was able to put in new wall insulation. For the rest, the best I could do was siding with an insulation underlayment over the housewrap. If you could find something like this with an insulation backing, You could keep the same look and be maintenance free-

We are replicating part of what exists.  Not putting shake back on, I kinda hate shake shingles. We are putting Hardie board on, easier to install, looks nice and lasts longer. 

I finished the car wash project last Friday and decided to come to Indy to see my parents for a week before starting a new job. The day before I came out here a got this picture from my brother (who lives in Indy as well).

The south end of the house had significant termite damage. It looks like the previous owner noticed a problem and put traps/poison to kill the termites, but didn’t fix the damage. We had to jack up the end of the house to replace the footer boards. It turns out that back in the 40’s when this house was built they didn’t have regulations requiring insulation. There is no insulation on the outside of the house at all. We got the footers replaced, insulation put in and backer board with sealing tape done by the end of the day yesterday. Today we start putting siding on ... and it’s raining. I hope we can get this done before I need to leave for Denver on Saturday.
 

So, what was supposed to be a nice relaxing visit with family has turned into a weeklong project fixing my parents house. The issue now is that all the siding will need to be replaced and insulation put in before the winter comes, I just can’t believe they didn’t insulate the house at all. I may hire someone to do the rest of the house. 

I’ve been camping my whole life. I never really got into hunting and I’ve only really fished when I was in the boundary waters and the alternative to eating fresh fish was freeze dried meals. Now I climb mountains. This is my favorite “feet on the beach” pic (taking a break on my way up Torreys peak).

1 hour ago, tdhoosier said:

Great post. I was also reading that this hyper-reactive immune response doesn’t typically happen in children because their immune system hasn’t evolved to that level. I read this a few weeks ago so my memory is a bit fuzzy, but I think it was prhased that a child’s immune system is still ‘learning’. This is ironically the reason why some doctors think they are relatively safe from the virus. 

I hear you on sugar. I still have my challenges, but greatly reduced it over the years. It’s crazy to actually sit down and look at how much added sugar you consume in a single day. Especially if you are a pop drinker. My friend is a dietician who specializes in weight loss, she says the very first thing she’s tells people to do is cut out the added sugar because it affects your body in so many ways. Every now and then I slowly fall off the bandwagon, but for me, when my sugar intake is low I sleep better, my knees feel better (sugar causes inflammation), my blood pressure is lower, my workouts are better and I don’t get sick as much (and if I do the duration isn’t as long). I mentioned this a couple of pages back and I don’t mean to beat it like a dead horse, but it kinda upsets me that there isn’t a bigger call for improving our health, especially in this moment. The media is so good at scaring people on a whole host of issues large or small, why don’t they attempt to ‘scare’ people into eating healthy? haha. The message everywhere is wash your hands, be careful and wear a mask, which is great. But why can’t they add ‘eat healthy’ or ‘excercise’ to that list? Other than age, the people who are most at risk have health issues. Health issue are usually a result of bad eating habits. You can greatly improve your health in the span of 2 months and as a result lower you risk, no matter where your starting point is. 

I’m no health nut, but I quit drinking pop, and switched to water, about twelve years ago because I was close to bankruptcy and didn’t have any money. After a while I realized that whenever I did drink pop it was disgustingly sweet. I started limiting my caffeine intake because I was having problems with my gut whenever I drank coffee.

Now I mostly just drink either water or beer and don’t eat candy. I don’t really watch what I eat, but I rarely eat a lot at any meal and I walk the dog at least 2 miles almost every night. 

I have a real skeptical attitude towards the medical industry these days. Our society has been told for decades that drugs will fix the problem. Then they make drugs to fix problems instead of finding the underlying reason for the problem. If you have a headache, take an aspirin, don’t think about why your head hurts. It could simply be that you are dehydrated and need water, which means the water you drink to wash down the aspirin is doing more good than the aspirin itself.

The media will not say anything that goes against the established narrative because the pharmaceutical companies pay the bills with advertising.

2 hours ago, Seeking6 said:

Curious on something. After your post I started doing a little research. This is one cut/paste below. Cytokines are supposed to help but because of this "storm" there is so many of them they are actually destroying tissues like our lungs which in turn causes death? Is that the process?

Certain kinds of cytokines trigger cell death. When you have many cells doing this at the same time, a lot of tissue can die. In COVID-19, that tissue is mostly in the lung. As the tissue breaks down, the walls of the lungs’ tiny air sacs become leaky and fill with fluid, causing pneumonia and starving the blood of oxygen.

As I said, I was told that vitamin D3 is the key that unlocks the cytokine and allows it to do its job. If there is not enough D3 then the cytokines build up and become destructive. I am no expert, I’m just parroting what I was told.

On 5/17/2020 at 12:56 PM, mrflynn03 said:

Duplicate post.

On 5/17/2020 at 12:56 PM, mrflynn03 said:

What do you think about Vitamin D supplementation? The Nords do add a lot of Vitamin D to their diet. Vitamin D seems to possibly have a positive effect.

Here is how it was explained to me, at least this is what I took away from the conversation.

When the body detects a need for an immune response, it creates cytokines and sends them out to destroy the problem. Vitamin D3 is the key that unlocks the cytokines, if there is not enough D3 then the cytokines can’t do their job. As the body continues to see a problem, it keeps creating and sending cytokines, which still cannot be unlocked. This hyperactive immune response creates what is called a cytokine storm. This creates all kinds of inflammation problems and in the case Covid-19 can severely damage the lungs which can cause respiratory problems and death.

The moral of the story is to keep your D3 levels high so your immune system can do its job.  

I have been blessed with fairly good weather here in Colorado since this whole thing started, so I have spent a great portion of my time at work out in the sun. Easy to do when you run a job site building a car wash. I’ve also been take 4-6,000 mg of vitamin C every day and forcing myself to get good sleep.  I quit eating sugar a few years ago, but that’s another story completely.

5 hours ago, milehiiu said:

Castle Rock,Colorado restaurant loses their license for defying the Governor's guidelines :

Colorado restaurant shut down after Mother's Day sit-down brunch

milehi salute to Raising Cane's :

Raising Cane's to hire 5,000 new crewmembers; distributes $2 million bonus to crew 

mile not happy with this :

Steak 'n Shake permanently closes nearly 10 percent of its restaurants amid coronavirus crisis

 

The Steak ‘n Shake by Park Meadows mall actually closed before this mess started. I used to go there a lot whenever I worked on the south side of Denver. I read where the franchisee had been battling with corporate over mandated pricing issues. I was bummed when I learned they were closed.

14 hours ago, Seat106 said:

As everyone is going back to work, remember that the federal or local governments will not protect your safety with regards to the virus.

Your employer has no obligation to keep you safe.

Your safety due to Coronavirus at work is your responsibility alone.

My safety is my responsibility all the time. I can make my own decisions, I don’t want the government telling me what is safe for me. I just don’t trust them.

Bosch season 6 dropped last weekend on Amazon. This is a great show based on books by Michael Connelly.  The books are excellent as is the show.

1 hour ago, Seeking6 said:

I guess this is coronavirus related. Would be a great time to start road projects. I know Indy is shutting down I70 so they can speed up these construction projects because of less cars on the roads.

https://www.wthr.com/article/indot-close-part-i-70-30-days-speed-construction-project

Denver started doing that last week. One of the area highways is blocked down to one lane each direction from four. It’s terribly annoying to those of us who still have to go to work, but that’s the smartest thing to do right now.  It works to get these projects done earlier and keeps people from driving.  Win- win.