Between2Halls Posted March 6, 2023 Report Share Posted March 6, 2023 Odds to win Big Ten Conference Tournament from DraftKings Sportsbook Purdue +150 Indiana +550 Michigan State +600 Maryland +650 Northwestern +900 Illinois +1200 Rutgers +2000 Iowa +2200 Penn State +2500 Michigan +2500 Wisconsin +6000 Ohio State +6000 Nebraska +25000 Minnesota +100000 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artesian_86 Posted March 6, 2023 Report Share Posted March 6, 2023 I sure hope we are rested and ready to play next week. I'm looking forward to some great games! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted March 6, 2023 Report Share Posted March 6, 2023 For your reading enjoyment: https://www.foxsports.com/stories/college-basketball/purdues-win-over-illinois-invites-more-questions-than-answers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted March 6, 2023 Report Share Posted March 6, 2023 Man what range of emotions yesterday. Maryland up 12 and cruising. All of us scrambling thinking 4 or 5 seed. Buzzer beater win by Penn St. Our game. Up 12 down 12 or whatever OT win. Iowa pulls what we did. Big road win and come home and lays an egg....and of course Northwestern just gives it to Rutgers. Those days are great but Lord. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxnJxn Posted March 6, 2023 Report Share Posted March 6, 2023 30 minutes ago, rico said: For your reading enjoyment: https://www.foxsports.com/stories/college-basketball/purdues-win-over-illinois-invites-more-questions-than-answers I don't think this is too complicated, as we've seen it all year - their backcourt is going to kill them in the tournament. Houston would eat their guards alive, as would a number of other teams with experience and toughness in the backcourt. They'll likely get to the S16 with that high seed, but I don't see them going much further. Illinois is a very interesting team to watch. Hawkins is kind of a jigsaw puzzle that fits in a number of places (he was bringing the ball up to start the offense yesterday while guarding Edey on the defensive end), Shannon is a terrific talent, and Mayer is ... well, I think he's kind of a chucker, but he can catch fire pretty quickly. Not sure I see them going all that far in the tournament, but that's an interesting roster build. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted March 6, 2023 Report Share Posted March 6, 2023 3 minutes ago, AxnJxn said: I don't think this is too complicated, as we've seen it all year - their backcourt is going to kill them in the tournament. Houston would eat their guards alive, as would a number of other teams with experience and toughness in the backcourt. They'll likely get to the S16 with that high seed, but I don't see them going much further. Illinois is a very interesting team to watch. Hawkins is kind of a jigsaw puzzle that fits in a number of places (he was bringing the ball up to start the offense yesterday while guarding Edey on the defensive end), Shannon is a terrific talent, and Mayer is ... well, I think he's kind of a chucker, but he can catch fire pretty quickly. Not sure I see them going all that far in the tournament, but that's an interesting roster build. As much as we, and honestly everyone else, give the Boilers grief about their frosh backcourt I think it goes deeper than that. Painter sees it as he has inserted Newman into the starting lineup. Furst is a problem as well. He brings nothing to the table other than smiling consistently. I think CMP needs to start playing Trey along side Edey and Jenkins needs to see the floor more. I think the committee might very well put UK on a collision course with PU assuming the 'Cats get on that 7 line. Edey vs. Oscar. As far as Illinois it was interesting to see how Hawkins and Mayer coexisted coming down the stretch. It appeared Hawkins didn't want to throw the ball to Mayer but yet Mayer kept wanting it. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted March 6, 2023 Report Share Posted March 6, 2023 1 hour ago, Between2Halls said: Odds to win Big Ten Conference Tournament from DraftKings Sportsbook Purdue +150 Indiana +550 Michigan State +600 Maryland +650 Northwestern +900 Illinois +1200 Rutgers +2000 Iowa +2200 Penn State +2500 Michigan +2500 Wisconsin +6000 Ohio State +6000 Nebraska +25000 Minnesota +100000 So, if I put $1,000 on Minnesota, how much do I win? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post IUFLA Posted March 6, 2023 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted March 6, 2023 2 minutes ago, 5fouls said: So, if I put $1,000 on Minnesota, how much do I win? Easy... $0 2 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted March 6, 2023 Report Share Posted March 6, 2023 7 minutes ago, rico said: As much as we, and honestly everyone else, give the Boilers grief about their frosh backcourt I think it goes deeper than that. Painter sees it as he has inserted Newman into the starting lineup. Furst is a problem as well. He brings nothing to the table other than smiling consistently. I think CMP needs to start playing Trey along side Edey and Jenkins needs to see the floor more. I think the committee might very well put UK on a collision course with PU assuming the 'Cats get on that 7 line. Edey vs. Oscar. As far as Illinois it was interesting to see how Hawkins and Mayer coexisted coming down the stretch. It appeared Hawkins didn't want to throw the ball to Mayer but yet Mayer kept wanting it. What does Trey give you that Furst doesn't? Outside of shooting the ball with the correct hand? 😆 I guess I don't understand why they got away from Gillis starting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierDPU95 Posted March 6, 2023 Report Share Posted March 6, 2023 I'm really interested in seeing how the NCAAT games are officiated. I watched several non-BigTen games this season (I specifically remember SEC and Big12 games) where the refs were allowing more physical play and the commentators said something to the effect of "this is more like a football game" in each. None of those games were close to the physicality allowed in the BigTen night in and night out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted March 6, 2023 Report Share Posted March 6, 2023 19 minutes ago, rico said: As much as we, and honestly everyone else, give the Boilers grief about their frosh backcourt I think it goes deeper than that. Painter sees it as he has inserted Newman into the starting lineup. Furst is a problem as well. He brings nothing to the table other than smiling consistently. I think CMP needs to start playing Trey along side Edey and Jenkins needs to see the floor more. I think the committee might very well put UK on a collision course with PU assuming the 'Cats get on that 7 line. Edey vs. Oscar. As far as Illinois it was interesting to see how Hawkins and Mayer coexisted coming down the stretch. It appeared Hawkins didn't want to throw the ball to Mayer but yet Mayer kept wanting it. UK is going to end up a 5 or a 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Between2Halls Posted March 6, 2023 Report Share Posted March 6, 2023 Anyone find a printable bracket? My son loves to fill them out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drroogh Posted March 6, 2023 Report Share Posted March 6, 2023 6 minutes ago, HoosierDPU95 said: I'm really interested in seeing how the NCAAT games are officiated. I watched several non-BigTen games this season (I specifically remember SEC and Big12 games) where the refs were allowing more physical play and the commentators said something to the effect of "this is more like a football game" in each. None of those games were close to the physicality allowed in the BigTen night in and night out. That’s one thing that gets talked about a lot but not in the grand scheme of things. How teams progress in the tournament are affected by player matchups, defensive and offensive scheme matchups, does a team that is a bad matchup get knocked out by a different team? However, what officials show up or how they officiate has a big impact on the tournament results. Not only does the committee go out of their way to put IU and Kensucky in the same bracket, but how much do they put into which officials do which games?? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotIThatLives Posted March 6, 2023 Report Share Posted March 6, 2023 (edited) 33 minutes ago, rico said: As much as we, and honestly everyone else, give the Boilers grief about their frosh backcourt I think it goes deeper than that. Painter sees it as he has inserted Newman into the starting lineup. Furst is a problem as well. He brings nothing to the table other than smiling consistently. I think CMP needs to start playing Trey along side Edey and Jenkins needs to see the floor more. I think the committee might very well put UK on a collision course with PU assuming the 'Cats get on that 7 line. Edey vs. Oscar. As far as Illinois it was interesting to see how Hawkins and Mayer coexisted coming down the stretch. It appeared Hawkins didn't want to throw the ball to Mayer but yet Mayer kept wanting it. Interesting that you would insert Trey for Furst. Fouls and btownqb could speak on it more but I think him sitting out last year has made his instincts just a step slow. He seems to be just a split second off in adjustments, defensive positioning, reaches, setting screens. He looks like he tries his tail off but the timing is off. Interesting that in a preseason interview he talked about working out with the guards a lot and that he was looking forward to exploiting mismatches, playing the wing, bringing the ball up. I haven't seen any of that. He's basically playing like a 5, which is not what he signed up for. Illinois has some chemistry issues. I'd probably rather not pass to Mayer either. Edited March 6, 2023 by NotIThatLives Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted March 6, 2023 Report Share Posted March 6, 2023 22 minutes ago, btownqb said: What does Trey give you that Furst doesn't? Outside of shooting the ball with the correct hand? 😆 I guess I don't understand why they got away from Gillis starting. Trey would give them more paint presence. Furst seems to stand around the arc a lot. I think Gillis got hurt? But yeah, Gillis brings more than Furst or Morton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted March 6, 2023 Report Share Posted March 6, 2023 4 minutes ago, NotIThatLives said: Interesting that would would insert Trey for Furst. Fouls and btownqb could speak on it more but I think him sitting out last year has made his instincts just a step slow. He seems to be just a split second off in adjustments, defensive positioning, reaches, setting screens. He looks like he tries his tail off but the timing is off. Interesting that in a preseason interview he talked about working out with the guards a lot and that he was looking forward to exploiting mismatches, playing the wing, bringing the ball up. I haven't seen any of that. He's basically playing like a 5, which is not what he signed up for. Illinois has some chemistry issues. I'd probably rather not pass to Mayer either. Trey had 8 points y-day. 3-4 from the floor, 1-1 3-pt, in 13 minutes. Furst had 2 points. 1-3 and 0-1 in 23 minutes. If the goal is to get Edey help I roll with Trey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Robby Posted March 6, 2023 Report Share Posted March 6, 2023 21 minutes ago, 5fouls said: UK is going to end up a 5 or a 6 Guarantee if we're a 4, they're the 5 in our region. Like I would almost bet the house on it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted March 6, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2023 10 minutes ago, NotIThatLives said: Illinois has some chemistry issues. I'd probably rather not pass to Mayer either. Before I'd pass to him, I'd run by with one of these and take his temperature 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotIThatLives Posted March 6, 2023 Report Share Posted March 6, 2023 2 minutes ago, rico said: Trey had 8 points y-day. 3-4 from the floor, 1-1 3-pt, in 13 minutes. Furst had 2 points. 1-3 and 0-1 in 23 minutes. If the goal is to get Edey help I roll with Trey. I only watched the 2nd half. I think their bigger problem, in crunch time, is the guards become afraid to shoot. I saw a bunch of passed up shots just to get Edey touches, which I get but no one was guarding Morton, Smith doesn't even look for his shot, though he will penetrate, and Opie becomes a reluctant shooter because he's looking for Edey. I just don't like Newman. He tries to play with an edge but he doesn't really back it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted March 6, 2023 Report Share Posted March 6, 2023 2 minutes ago, NotIThatLives said: I only watched the 2nd half. I think their bigger problem, in crunch time, is the guards become afraid to shoot. I saw a bunch of passed up shots just to get Edey touches, which I get but no one was guarding Morton, Smith doesn't even look for his shot, though he will penetrate, and Opie becomes a reluctant shooter because he's looking for Edey. I just don't like Newman. He tries to play with an edge but he doesn't really back it up. Newman is why Purdue had the big lead at halftime. But yeah. Purdue's guards "fell apart" in the 2nd half in dang near every aspect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxnJxn Posted March 6, 2023 Report Share Posted March 6, 2023 6 minutes ago, IUFLA said: Before I'd pass to him, I'd run by with one of these and take his temperature I mean, you're likely not getting the ball back if you pass it to him, so I can understand the reluctance. Definitely agree that there seems to be some chemistry issues with that team. Mayer's air ball on the 3 yesterday near the end of the game was the definition of someone playing hero ball. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted March 6, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2023 1 minute ago, AxnJxn said: I mean, you're likely not getting the ball back if you pass it to him, so I can understand the reluctance. Definitely agree that there seems to be some chemistry issues with that team. Mayer's air ball on the 3 yesterday near the end of the game was the definition of someone playing hero ball. Underwood loves him...Always made excuses "He was sick" if Mayer had a bad game...Hence my quip... On the other hand, he threw TSJ under the bus after losing at home to Penn State 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceDouglas Posted March 6, 2023 Report Share Posted March 6, 2023 1 hour ago, rico said: As far as Illinois it was interesting to see how Hawkins and Mayer coexisted coming down the stretch. It appeared Hawkins didn't want to throw the ball to Mayer but yet Mayer kept wanting it. That last play was supposed to be a post up for Mayer, but Hawkins "went the wrong way" according to Underwood in the post game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotIThatLives Posted March 6, 2023 Report Share Posted March 6, 2023 10 minutes ago, AxnJxn said: I mean, you're likely not getting the ball back if you pass it to him, so I can understand the reluctance. Definitely agree that there seems to be some chemistry issues with that team. Mayer's air ball on the 3 yesterday near the end of the game was the definition of someone playing hero ball. Yeah, he's good but not that good. If you want someone doing that at the end of the game it's Shannon 100% 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierDPU95 Posted March 6, 2023 Report Share Posted March 6, 2023 1 minute ago, BruceDouglas said: That last play was supposed to be a post up for Mayer, but Hawkins "went the wrong way" according to Underwood in the post game. Hawkins must have been running to get Mayer a can of Monster 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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