The Daily Hoosier Posted June 6, 2018 Report Share Posted June 6, 2018 One of the better IU QB competitions is now officially on. We break it down and tell you why each of Dawkins, Ramsey and Penix will start -- and why they won't. https://www.thedailyhoosier.com/iu-grad-transfer-brandon-dawkins-is-on-campus-and-an-intriguing-qb-competition-kicks-off/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehiiu Posted June 6, 2018 Report Share Posted June 6, 2018 With Dawkins coming in for just one year, seems to me would be a good to redshirt Penix for one year. Quality work... again, by the way TDH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted June 6, 2018 Report Share Posted June 6, 2018 36 minutes ago, milehiiu said: With Dawkins coming in for just one year, seems to me would be a good to redshirt Penix for one year. Quality work... again, by the way TDH. I'd be shocked if Penix doesn't RS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier82 Posted June 6, 2018 Report Share Posted June 6, 2018 8 minutes ago, btownqb said: I'd be shocked if Penix doesn't RS My guess is Penix didn't choose IU over Florida State to redshirt but I understand that kids don't always get what they want. With the extra time he's put in I wouldn't just hand the job to Dawkins. I'll reserve judgement until I see Dawkins actually play in this system but both are probably better options than Ramsey which is why I could see Penix not redshirting. The only way I do see Penix redshirting is if Ramsey made vast strides in the off season, developing his ability to get the ball down the field because nothing but screen passes and 5-15 yard routes wont cut it in this league. With Westbrook back we need someone who can get him the ball down the field and open up the middle for the other guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted June 6, 2018 Report Share Posted June 6, 2018 6 minutes ago, Hoosier82 said: My guess is Penix didn't choose IU over Florida State to redshirt but I understand that kids don't always get what they want. With the extra time he's put in I wouldn't just hand the job to Dawkins. I'll reserve judgement until I see Dawkins actually play in this system but both are probably better options than Ramsey which is why I could see Penix not redshirting. The only way I do see Penix redshirting is if Ramsey made vast strides in the off season, developing his ability to get the ball down the field because nothing but screen passes and 5-15 yard routes wont cut it in this league. With Westbrook back we need someone who can get him the ball down the field and open up the middle for the other guys. Dawkins isnt getting beat out. Penix RS to save a year. Maybe if Dawkins gets hurt, Penix burns the RS. Plenty of Ramsey's problems had nothing to do with his arm strength. I'm not really worried about any of that though. I do think Penix could use 10-15lbs before he steps on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehiiu Posted June 6, 2018 Report Share Posted June 6, 2018 3 hours ago, btownqb said: Dawkins isnt getting beat out. Penix RS to save a year. Maybe if Dawkins gets hurt, Penix burns the RS. Plenty of Ramsey's problems had nothing to do with his arm strength. I'm not really worried about any of that though. I do think Penix could use 10-15lbs before he steps on the field. Agree. Nice insurance to have, in case of injury. Redshirt or not. Oh, man. I am getting excited for some Hoosier football. And nice to know I don't have to worry about the BTN for the first game. Not that I am against the BTN.... just that my cable provider (Comcast) dropped the BTN..... and this week told me they may drop the BTN for the entire country ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leathernecks Posted June 7, 2018 Report Share Posted June 7, 2018 4 hours ago, btownqb said: Dawkins isnt getting beat out. Penix RS to save a year. Maybe if Dawkins gets hurt, Penix burns the RS. Plenty of Ramsey's problems had nothing to do with his arm strength. I'm not really worried about any of that though. I do think Penix could use 10-15lbs before he steps on the field. Agreed. I don't see any way Dawkins isn't the starter unless he's injured. His feet provide something that nobody else can match, and nobody else has an arm that will blow his away. Ramsey is a fine quarterback in this league. Not great, not terrible, but he's more than serviceable as a backup/spot starter. I think Penix is the future after this year, so I'd be really disappointed if we burn his redshirt outside of an injury to Dawkins. Worst case scenario of Dawkins and Ramsey going down for part of a game, throw Reese Taylor back there and tell him not to get killed. If we make a bowl and save Penix's redshirt, that will be a very successful season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowling Posted June 7, 2018 Report Share Posted June 7, 2018 Graham article: http://iuhoosiers.com/news/2018/6/7/football-graham-notebook-dawkins-freshmen-arrive-on-campus.aspx Go Hoosiers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapnRon Posted June 8, 2018 Report Share Posted June 8, 2018 On 6/6/2018 at 10:33 AM, The Daily Hoosier said: One of the better IU QB competitions is now officially on. We break it down and tell you why each of Dawkins, Ramsey and Penix will start -- and why they won't. https://www.thedailyhoosier.com/iu-grad-transfer-brandon-dawkins-is-on-campus-and-an-intriguing-qb-competition-kicks-off/ Great article! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoosiertildeath Posted June 8, 2018 Report Share Posted June 8, 2018 I am hoping he avoids the dang injury bug for the entire season ! Go Hoosiers ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierHopeful Posted June 8, 2018 Report Share Posted June 8, 2018 While I believe that the best player should get to start, it's often frustrating not seeing some stability under center. If you want a player to get better, he need reps in games. Ramsey showed flashes of great play last year, but we struggled to stay healthy and provide relief opposite of Simmie Cobbs. The coaching staff needs to be confident in the starter they choose and not bench him after one bad half. We as fans often get mad and call for the benching, but that does everyone a disservice. Penix could be a long-term answer for QB stability. He has a big arm, didn't turn the ball over much (30 pass TDs to 5 INTs), and could make plays with his legs (449 rush yds with 10 TDs). I wouldn't be surprised if they redshirted him, but his spring play and knowledge of the playbook may jump him over Ramsey and Dawkins. Stat Sources: MaxPreps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehiiu Posted June 9, 2018 Report Share Posted June 9, 2018 3 hours ago, HoosierHopeful said: While I believe that the best player should get to start, it's often frustrating not seeing some stability under center. If you want a player to get better, he need reps in games. Ramsey showed flashes of great play last year, but we struggled to stay healthy and provide relief opposite of Simmie Cobbs. The coaching staff needs to be confident in the starter they choose and not bench him after one bad half. We as fans often get mad and call for the benching, but that does everyone a disservice. Penix could be a long-term answer for QB stability. He has a big arm, didn't turn the ball over much (30 pass TDs to 5 INTs), and could make plays with his legs (449 rush yds with 10 TDs). I wouldn't be surprised if they redshirted him, but his spring play and knowledge of the playbook may jump him over Ramsey and Dawkins. Stat Sources: MaxPreps. Appreciate your first post. Thanks ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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