KoB2011 Posted November 24, 2018 Report Share Posted November 24, 2018 What does everyone think is the proper thing to do with early foul trouble? Obviously, each situation is different so this is more of a general rule. CAM seems to sit guys for the remainder of the half when they get two fouls, no matter who it is. What do you think of that? How might that have impacted is against Arkansas, for example? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted November 24, 2018 Report Share Posted November 24, 2018 It is a "Catch-22". All I got to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoHoosier Posted November 24, 2018 Report Share Posted November 24, 2018 Early in the season, I'm fine with it. As the season progresses, it will be more situational. For now, it sends a message, do not get 2 first half fouls. Playing in Durham will be interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parakeet Jones Posted November 24, 2018 Report Share Posted November 24, 2018 5 hours ago, PoHoosier said: Playing in Durham will be interesting. Morgan already has two fouls, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted November 24, 2018 Report Share Posted November 24, 2018 During the broadcast last night, Max Bielfeldt said when he went to Cameron Indoor to play (and he didn't say whether it was with Michigan or IU) Ted Valentine walked up to him and said something to the effect that they'd better get up 10 points early in that place... Don't know whether Ted meant it was due to the environment or his refereeing, but either way he was right... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierhoopster Posted November 24, 2018 Report Share Posted November 24, 2018 I’ve had this question for years. I suppose it goes with your risk tolerance— but I think it also should involve reading the way the game is being officiated. On the one hand, you don’t want your key players having 3 fouls early or in the first half, and you know you have the second half to bring adjustments to and to go on a run. On the other hand, you don’t want to have to play out of a deep hole, and if you’re on the road getting a come back win is almost always more difficult. So road v home also is a factor. At home you can get the crowd behind you for the second half run, probably same for neutral court. For me, if it’s the road I lean towards playing through the first two fouls, at least if they’re not very early in the first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted November 24, 2018 Report Share Posted November 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, Hoosierhoopster said: I’ve had this question for years. I suppose it goes with your risk tolerance— but I think it also should involve reading the way the game is being officiated. On the one hand, you don’t want your key players having 3 fouls early or in the first half, and you know you have the second half to bring adjustments to and to go on a run. On the other hand, you don’t want to have to play out of a deep hole, and if you’re on the road getting a come back win is almost always more difficult. So road v home also is a factor. At home you can get the crowd behind you for the second half run, probably same for neutral court. For me, if it’s the road I lean towards playing through the first two fouls, at least if they’re not very early in the first Good post and your logic makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbmhoosier Posted November 24, 2018 Report Share Posted November 24, 2018 In the Duke game Archie needs to keep Morgan on Romeo on the court no matter what. If they have to sit for an extended stretch early on we'll be down 25 at the half. If they foul out in the second half oh well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted November 24, 2018 Report Share Posted November 24, 2018 16 minutes ago, Hoosierhoopster said: I’ve had this question for years. I suppose it goes with your risk tolerance— but I think it also should involve reading the way the game is being officiated. On the one hand, you don’t want your key players having 3 fouls early or in the first half, and you know you have the second half to bring adjustments to and to go on a run. On the other hand, you don’t want to have to play out of a deep hole, and if you’re on the road getting a come back win is almost always more difficult. So road v home also is a factor. At home you can get the crowd behind you for the second half run, probably same for neutral court. For me, if it’s the road I lean towards playing through the first two fouls, at least if they’re not very early in the first Somewhere along the line, the thinking changed about this. Back in the day, you didn't sit until your 3rd foul in the 1st half from what I remember. I agree with your thinking. Officiating, situation, road vs home, and the player all factor in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted November 24, 2018 Report Share Posted November 24, 2018 Just now, IUFLA said: Somewhere along the line, the thinking changed about this. Back in the day, you didn't sit until your 3rd foul in the 1st half from what I remember. I agree with your thinking. Officiating, situation, road vs home, and the player all factor in. Remember the '83 championship game? Drexler picked up his 4th foul late in the 1st half! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted November 24, 2018 Report Share Posted November 24, 2018 1 minute ago, rico said: Remember the '83 championship game? Drexler picked up his 4th foul late in the 1st half! On a charge in Gannon, right? Or was that #5? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted November 24, 2018 Report Share Posted November 24, 2018 I do believe it was a charge on Gannon....my memory tells me that Clyde played the entire 2nd half, never fouling out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jv1972iu Posted November 24, 2018 Report Share Posted November 24, 2018 Don't recall who the analyst was, but heard a comment on the " two foul you sit" issue that was interesting. Basically, the guy thought if you sat your player early in the first half that you really needed to bring him back in before the half ended or you risked the player not being able to really get back into the flow of your game plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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