rico Posted March 7, 2019 Report Share Posted March 7, 2019 A lot has broken out in the KBJ thread/s in the recruiting forum. So I thought I would start a thread discussing how many players within the state that not only did not choose IU, but spurned Purdue and Notre Dame as well. My timeline starts with the Knight era because of my age. So off the top of my head in no particular order... Jason Gardner...Arizona Kenny Lofton...Arizona Kris Wilkes...UCLA Dominic James...Marquette Eric Montross...North Carolina Dave Colescott...North Carolina Rick Fox...North Carolina Sean May...North Carolina Shawn Kemp...Kentucky Jim Master...Kentucky Roger Harden...Kentucky James Blackmon Sr....Kentucky And there are many more...add to the list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwtaylor1055 Posted March 7, 2019 Report Share Posted March 7, 2019 Mike Conley.... Ohio St Kyle Guy.... Virginia(not sure if IU offered this kid or not) Paul Scruggs.....Xavier here are a few more..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted March 7, 2019 Report Share Posted March 7, 2019 6 minutes ago, rico said: A lot has broken out in the KBJ thread/s in the recruiting forum. So I thought I would start a thread discussing how many players within the state that not only did not choose IU, but spurned Purdue and Notre Dame as well. My timeline starts with the Knight era because of my age. So off the top of my head in no particular order... Jason Gardner...Arizona Kenny Lofton...Arizona Kris Wilkes...UCLA Dominic James...Marquette Eric Montross...North Carolina Dave Colescott...North Carolina Rick Fox...North Carolina Sean May...North Carolina Shawn Kemp...Kentucky Jim Master...Kentucky Roger Harden...Kentucky James Blackmon Sr....Kentucky And there are many more...add to the list. Kenny Lofton is from Indiana? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted March 7, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2019 Just now, KoB2011 said: Kenny Lofton is from Indiana? Yepper. And a answer to a dang fine trivia question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OGIUAndy Posted March 7, 2019 Report Share Posted March 7, 2019 1 minute ago, dwtaylor1055 said: Mike Conley.... Ohio St Kyle Guy.... Virginia(not sure if IU offered this kid or not) Paul Scruggs.....Xavier here are a few more..... Don't forget about Oden and Zach Randolph. But this list could get really big. Indiana has produced a ton of a talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted March 7, 2019 Report Share Posted March 7, 2019 4 minutes ago, dwtaylor1055 said: Mike Conley.... Ohio St Kyle Guy.... Virginia(not sure if IU offered this kid or not) Paul Scruggs.....Xavier here are a few more..... Trevon Blueitt Greg Oden Garry Harris Zak Irvin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted March 7, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2019 Monte Towe...NC State Tim Stoddard...NC State Rob Harden...Florida Zach Randolph...Michigan St. And there are more.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted March 7, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2019 1 minute ago, OGIUAndy said: Don't forget about Oden and Zach Randolph. But this list could get really big. Indiana has produced a ton of a talent. That is the point...the state has lost a lot of recruits to out of state schools. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FKIM01 Posted March 7, 2019 Report Share Posted March 7, 2019 1 minute ago, rico said: That is the point...the state has lost a lot of recruits to out of state schools. There's just too much talent for Indiana schools to absorb. That's a great problem to have but it also means the state is never truly locked down. I just want Archie to get more than his fair share of the best and thus far, there's a strong argument he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted March 7, 2019 Report Share Posted March 7, 2019 Jack Moore-Nebraska Pete Trgovich-UCLA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted March 7, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2019 Just now, FKIM01 said: There's just too much talent for Indiana schools to absorb. That's a great problem to have but it also means the state is never truly locked down. I just want Archie to get more than his fair share of the best and thus far, there's a strong argument he is. Exactly. DeShaun Thomas...Ohio St. Steve Nicodemus...Michigan St. David Magley...Kansas Mark Jewell...Iowa Jeff Moe...Iowa Scott Hafner...Illinois There are more....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted March 7, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2019 1 minute ago, IUFLA said: Jack Moore-Nebraska Pete Trgovich-UCLA Jamar Johnson...Nebraska Michael Warren...UCLA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted March 7, 2019 Report Share Posted March 7, 2019 1 minute ago, rico said: Jamar Johnson...Nebraska Michael Warren...UCLA Scott Skiles - MSU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierhoopster Posted March 7, 2019 Report Share Posted March 7, 2019 8 minutes ago, rico said: That is the point...the state has lost a lot of recruits to out of state schools. But isn't that true of numerous other states? I mean a list of Texas kids, New York kids, Cali kids, etc., would likely be longer. Kids go to out-of-state programs from every state, all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwtaylor1055 Posted March 7, 2019 Report Share Posted March 7, 2019 I think the general consensus is, knowing that Archie will turn the program around, KBJ was/is a key guy to get to that return to glory at a slightly faster rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steubenhoosier Posted March 7, 2019 Report Share Posted March 7, 2019 4 minutes ago, Hoosierhoopster said: But isn't that true of numerous other states? I mean a list of Texas kids, New York kids, Cali kids, etc., would likely be longer. Kids go to out-of-state programs from every state, all the time. agree...nothing new here. Imagine how long the list would be of Florida kids who leave the state to play football elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted March 7, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2019 36 minutes ago, Hoosierhoopster said: But isn't that true of numerous other states? I mean a list of Texas kids, New York kids, Cali kids, etc., would likely be longer. Kids go to out-of-state programs from every state, all the time. But nobody gets worked up about it like the state of Indiana. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted March 7, 2019 Report Share Posted March 7, 2019 4 minutes ago, RoadToZion said: Because we have the best talent. AND best HS coaches, and I don't think it's even close. We need to keep these kids home. I think Archie is trying his best but you can't make kids go to IU if they are not interested. I don't know what else Archie can have done to try to get KB to IU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierJax Posted March 7, 2019 Report Share Posted March 7, 2019 Charles Macon - Ohio State. Tyler Zeller -UNC Kevin Ault - Missouri State The Moore kid that played at SMU.Ryan Taylor Northwestern. Desmond Bane TCU. Kojak Fuller - who knows .Aaron Henry - MSU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted March 7, 2019 Report Share Posted March 7, 2019 1 minute ago, RoadToZion said: That's not what I am saying. I was just responding to why Indiana people get so worked up. It's because we have the best players and coaches, and want to keep those kids in our state. I don't really believe that is still true because the high school games I have watched the last few years pretty much look like what we see every where. They run the same kind of offense in Indiana high school that you will see anywhere else. I want to keep the best players from the state as well but I know we will not get everyone. I really don't care where the player comes from as long as they are really good players who plays hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted March 7, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2019 6 minutes ago, IU Scott said: I don't really believe that is still true because the high school games I have watched the last few years pretty much look like what we see every where. They run the same kind of offense in Indiana high school that you will see anywhere else. I want to keep the best players from the state as well but I know we will not get everyone. I really don't care where the player comes from as long as they are really good players who plays hard. I started this thread for a particular reason...to talk about kids that left the state. Not to talk about play, not where out of state kids go. The focus is on the state of Indiana and OUR HS players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted March 7, 2019 Report Share Posted March 7, 2019 1 minute ago, rico said: I started this thread for a particular reason...to talk about kids that left the state. Not to talk about play, not where out of state kids go. The focus is on the state of Indiana and OUR HS players. Just responding to the poster quote about coaching and players being better in Indiana than any other state. I guess I need to ask your permission on how to respond to a poster who was not yourself so maybe you should just stay out of other peoples conversation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted March 7, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2019 4 minutes ago, IU Scott said: Just responding to the poster quote about coaching and players being better in Indiana than any other state. I guess I need to ask your permission on how to respond to a poster who was not yourself so maybe you should just stay out of other peoples conversation. That is funny Scott, you went on a different tangent. Go back to Old School. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted March 7, 2019 Report Share Posted March 7, 2019 Just now, rico said: That is funny Scott, you went on a different tangent. Go back to Old School. I gave you 5 or 6 names of kids without any other thing in the post. I was just stating I don't think the players and coaches are any better in this state than a lot of other states. I did not know you were the master of this board and have to get you permission on what to post. If you don't like what I post then put me on ignore and by the way you are becoming just like your avatar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierhoopster Posted March 7, 2019 Report Share Posted March 7, 2019 53 minutes ago, rico said: But nobody gets worked up about it like the state of Indiana. Well that certainly seems true, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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