IndySportsPartizan Posted March 27, 2019 Report Share Posted March 27, 2019 Gregg Marshall is who I wanted to be hired when Crean was canned. I truly think he is a top 3 coach in cbb. Anyways, we got Archie who everyone lauded as a great hire. Way back then (when I still had time to write) I did a quick analysis comparing a young Archie vs a young Marshall and thought it might be interesting to bring back up. Feel free to read the entire article or just check out the comparison chart. The chart has enough info to hopefully continue to give some optimism. http://www.indysportspartizan.com/2017/06/10/overanalysis-of-the-iubb-hire-archie-miller-vs-gregg-marshalls-first-6-seasons/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoosier8760 Posted March 27, 2019 Report Share Posted March 27, 2019 After two years of Archie what he did at Dayton is becoming increasingly irrelevant... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwtaylor1055 Posted March 27, 2019 Report Share Posted March 27, 2019 26 minutes ago, hoosier8760 said: After two years of Archie what he did at Dayton is becoming increasingly irrelevant... Not entirely, by the end of CAM time at Dayton it was completely full of players that HE recruited, his team wasn't filled with players that he did not recruit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierhoopster Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 19 hours ago, dwtaylor1055 said: Not entirely, by the end of CAM time at Dayton it was completely full of players that HE recruited, his team wasn't filled with players that he did not recruit. Bingo. And his trajectory at Dayton is what we're hoping to see at IU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feathery Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 22 hours ago, hoosier8760 said: After two years of Archie what he did at Dayton is becoming increasingly irrelevant... Meh. Talk to me after year 3. His guys just finished their freshman year. He made progress from year 1 to 2, more wins, post season tournament. He actually regressed at Dayton from year 1 to 2. Then year 3 was a big leap. Archie has said from day 1 it will take 3 years to get his system implemented. Well we are 2/3 of the way there. NCAA tournament is the goal next year. Keep on progressing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoosier8760 Posted March 29, 2019 Report Share Posted March 29, 2019 Oh I’ll talk to you...I hope more than anyone that we’re better next year but it wouldn’t shock me if we miss the NCAAs once again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TN_Hoosier Posted March 29, 2019 Report Share Posted March 29, 2019 More than anyone? I don't think so! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwtaylor1055 Posted March 29, 2019 Report Share Posted March 29, 2019 19 hours ago, Feathery said: Meh. Talk to me after year 3. His guys just finished their freshman year. He made progress from year 1 to 2, more wins, post season tournament. He actually regressed at Dayton from year 1 to 2. Then year 3 was a big leap. Archie has said from day 1 it will take 3 years to get his system implemented. Well we are 2/3 of the way there. NCAA tournament is the goal next year. Keep on progressing. My question is, were there this many people upset with CTC after his second season being the coach at IU? Lets see a record breakdown of CTC shall we through his first 5 years at IU compared to Archie. Coach Tom Crean: 2008-2009: 6-25 2009-2010: 10-21 2010-2011: 12-20 2011-2012: 27-9(Sweet 16 appearance) 2012-2013: 29-7(Sweet 16 appearance) Coach Archie Miller: 2017-2018: 16-15 2018-2019: 19-16(NIT Quarterfinals). 2019-2020: 2020-2021: 2021-2022: Anyone upset with Archie lets give him a break(yes CAM has some flaws but doesn't every coach to some point???), if at the end of year 4 we have not made the NCAA tournament and made it say to at least the 2nd rd or sweet 16 then we can revisit our thoughts about Archie. It took Crean 4 years to get to the NCAA Tournament with IU. If Archie and company improve say 2 games next season they are in the tournament. Just my two cents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artesian_86 Posted March 29, 2019 Report Share Posted March 29, 2019 This was a best seller book including various videos modeling his Phoenix offense, Carolina transitions, transition triggers, transition drills and Q&A. I found the overview very insightful and really opened my eyes on what Archie has been trying to implement at IU. This best seller book, including videos were all possible because of his success and recruiting players to fit his style while at Dayton. His success was noted starting in year 3. Lastly, check out the reviews from coaches who bought his book and used his videos to better their teams.... https://www.championshipproductions.com/cgi-bin/champ/p/Basketball/Archie-Miller-Accelerating-Your-Transition-Offense_BD-04862.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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