IUFLA Posted July 30, 2020 Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 I think he was going to say, "and that's ok because we're into the Cubs bullpen now!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted July 30, 2020 Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 Cubs just turned a triple play to get out of a bases loaded jam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted July 30, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 That third base ump needs to be fired if he can't see that ball hit the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted July 30, 2020 Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 12 minutes ago, IU Scott said: Bell is going to make me lose it LOL! Going to be a fun year. For the NL Central crowd 34 wins gets you in the playoffs with new structure/format. After that it's on God's good graces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted July 30, 2020 Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 9 minutes ago, 5fouls said: That third base ump needs to be fired if he can't see that ball hit the ground. Don't understand how a catch on a ball in the infield can't be reviewed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted July 30, 2020 Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 Another interesting thing about the new extra inning rule the Cubs announcer brought up. You can throw a perfect game and still could lose a game. Probably won't happen since the mangers don't let pitchers pitch late into the game. You go into the 10th with a perfect game and a guy on 2nd and have a groundout gets the runner to third. The next batter hits a sacrifice fly for the win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted July 30, 2020 Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 4 minutes ago, Seeking6 said: Going to be a fun year. For the NL Central crowd 34 wins gets you in the playoffs with new structure/format. After that it's on God's good graces. Well the 2nd place team will automatically get you into the playoffs as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted July 30, 2020 Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 8 minutes ago, IU Scott said: Well the 2nd place team will automatically get you into the playoffs as well. As well as the 2 best records after 1st and 2nd in each division. Everyone with a pulse makes the playoffs this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted July 30, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 4 minutes ago, Seeking6 said: As well as the 2 best records after 1st and 2nd in each division. Everyone with a pulse makes the playoffs this year. That criteria does not include the Reds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted July 30, 2020 Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 Still don't understand the Cubs batting Bryant and Rizzo 1st/2nd instead of 3rd and 4th in the lineup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted July 30, 2020 Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 1 hour ago, IU Scott said: Still don't understand the Cubs batting Bryant and Rizzo 1st/2nd instead of 3rd and 4th in the lineup. The numbers say 42 extra plate appearances per season is the difference between 1st to 2nd, 1st to 3rd,etc...I actually think Hoerner is our leadoff guy for the future. 42 extra at bats though means 12-15 good things happening per season. In a division as tight as ours who knows what those 12-15 extra at bats mean. One game? 2? Difference between home field advantage, division,etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billingsley99 Posted July 30, 2020 Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 9 hours ago, IU Scott said: OH Lord Bell just took out Gray with two outs in the 7th with two on and the reliever just walked the first batter. Up 9-0 and with a pitcher with a one hitter and you take him out after a walk and an error. Now the reliever just hit the next batter to give the Cubs their first run. My god I just wish these managers did not try to over managed and think they are inventing a new game. If we lose this game B ell needs to be gone after the game. Now it is 9-3 and I see your point and Sonny was on for sure but its still early and if the Reds want to contend it will be on the arms of the starters. Say Bell doesn't take him out and somehow he gets injured all the fans would be on Bell for not taking him out 9-0. We just have to accept that this is a different world and guys are not going to throw complete games very often no matter how well they are throwing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted July 30, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 He should have let him finish the inning. He just struck out a batter and a switch hitter was coming to the plate. No advantage in taking him out with 2 outs in the inning in that situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted July 30, 2020 Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, 5fouls said: He should have let him finish the inning. He just struck out a batter and a switch hitter was coming to the plate. No advantage in taking him out with 2 outs in the inning in that situation. Maybe he was on a 90 pitch pitch count? He ended with 92, but you're not going to remove him in the middle of the AB... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted July 30, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 1 minute ago, IUFLA said: Maybe he was on a 90 pitch pitch count? He ended with 92, but you're not going to remove him in the middle of the AB... You let him go one more batter. 95-96 pitches is not that much different than 92. Bell is totally overmanaging things. And, it keeps blowing up in his face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted July 30, 2020 Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 6 minutes ago, 5fouls said: You let him go one more batter. 95-96 pitches is not that much different than 92. Bell is totally overmanaging things. And, it keeps blowing up in his face. The baseball world we live in I guess...Pitch counts, analytics, launch angle... I'm kinda a "round ball, round bat, gotta hit it square" type myself... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted July 30, 2020 Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 A win is a win and I'll take it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted July 30, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 Where has quality journalism gone? Take a look at this article on CBS,com about the triple play that really wasn't the Cubs turned against the Reds last night. Blatant mistakes highlighted Akiyama is an outfielder and does not catch at all. Akiyama was already to first. It would have been a force at 3rd and nothing else. Ummm. Vanover would be an Umpire, not a Coach. The first triple play of the 2020 MLB season is in the books. The Chicago Cubs turned the first triple play of the abbreviated season Wednesday night when Reds catcher Shogo Akiyama lined out to Kris Bryant at third base with the bases loaded in the seventh inning. Bryant made the catch for the first out, stepped on third base to double up the runner for the second out, then threw to first base to double up the runner for the third out. Here's the play: The triple play was made possible by a blown call. Replays showed Bryant did not catch the ball in the air. It hit the dirt and bounced first which, of course, isn't an out. It should have been a double play when Bryant stepped on third to get the force out, and threw to first for another force out, but that's all. "I should've just threw it to second and then he'd throw it to first and then it would've been four outs," Bryant joked after the game, according to MLB.com's Jordan Bastian. He added he was "convinced" he caught the ball before seeing the replay. Believe it or not, that play is not reviewable. MLB rules say trap plays in the outfield are reviewable but not similar plays on the infield. That's the umpire's call and the umpire's call only. Why? Beats me. Fair or foul can be reviewed in the outfield only -- it's the umpire's call on the infield -- and the same applies to trap plays. Weird. Of course, the triple play was largely inconsequential to the game, so the missed call didn't cost the Reds. They were leading 12-5 at the time and eventually went on to win 12-7 (box score). Third base coach Larry Vanover is off the hook. No harm, no foul. The triple play is baseball's first since the Twins turned a triple play against the Braves last Aug. 7. It's the first triple play for the Cubs since May 10, 1997 against the Giants. https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/watch-cubs-turn-mlbs-first-triple-play-of-2020-thanks-to-umpires-blown-call/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted July 30, 2020 Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 4 hours ago, 5fouls said: Where has quality journalism gone? Take a look at this article on CBS,com about the triple play that really wasn't the Cubs turned against the Reds last night. Blatant mistakes highlighted Akiyama is an outfielder and does not catch at all. Akiyama was already to first. It would have been a force at 3rd and nothing else. Ummm. Vanover would be an Umpire, not a Coach. The first triple play of the 2020 MLB season is in the books. The Chicago Cubs turned the first triple play of the abbreviated season Wednesday night when Reds catcher Shogo Akiyama lined out to Kris Bryant at third base with the bases loaded in the seventh inning. Bryant made the catch for the first out, stepped on third base to double up the runner for the second out, then threw to first base to double up the runner for the third out. Here's the play: The triple play was made possible by a blown call. Replays showed Bryant did not catch the ball in the air. It hit the dirt and bounced first which, of course, isn't an out. It should have been a double play when Bryant stepped on third to get the force out, and threw to first for another force out, but that's all. "I should've just threw it to second and then he'd throw it to first and then it would've been four outs," Bryant joked after the game, according to MLB.com's Jordan Bastian. He added he was "convinced" he caught the ball before seeing the replay. Believe it or not, that play is not reviewable. MLB rules say trap plays in the outfield are reviewable but not similar plays on the infield. That's the umpire's call and the umpire's call only. Why? Beats me. Fair or foul can be reviewed in the outfield only -- it's the umpire's call on the infield -- and the same applies to trap plays. Weird. Of course, the triple play was largely inconsequential to the game, so the missed call didn't cost the Reds. They were leading 12-5 at the time and eventually went on to win 12-7 (box score). Third base coach Larry Vanover is off the hook. No harm, no foul. The triple play is baseball's first since the Twins turned a triple play against the Braves last Aug. 7. It's the first triple play for the Cubs since May 10, 1997 against the Giants. https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/watch-cubs-turn-mlbs-first-triple-play-of-2020-thanks-to-umpires-blown-call/ The hell with it...let's play ball! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted July 30, 2020 Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 Reds placed Wade Miley on the IL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slojoe Posted July 31, 2020 Report Share Posted July 31, 2020 On 7/29/2020 at 10:06 PM, IU Scott said: Still don't understand the Cubs batting Bryant and Rizzo 1st/2nd instead of 3rd and 4th in the lineup. The theory (right or wrong) is that you try to get your best hitters the most at bats. Rizzo is the best lead off hitter on the team which isn't saying much. He is also the best clean-up hitter on the team. He does choke-up with 2 strikes, he gets HBP often as he crowds the plate, has some speed and base-running skills, can work the count, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted July 31, 2020 Report Share Posted July 31, 2020 11 hours ago, IU Scott said: Reds placed Wade Miley on the IL Get an ice cream headache? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billingsley99 Posted July 31, 2020 Report Share Posted July 31, 2020 14 hours ago, IU Scott said: Reds placed Wade Miley on the IL After that 1st performance I would trade Wade Miley for Miley Cyrus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted July 31, 2020 Report Share Posted July 31, 2020 36 minutes ago, Billingsley99 said: After that 1st performance I would trade Wade Miley for Miley Cyrus. "Her motion to the plate could be called twerky-jerky." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted July 31, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 31, 2020 Reds bullpen did not give up any runs last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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