milehiiu Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 IU opens the B1G on the road, about a month earlier than normal, due to the Conference Tournament coming one week sooner that normal. Game is Saturday, December 2. Broadcast on CBS. Game time is 12:30 EST. __________________________________________ A national game. I think the casual college BB fan who watched the IU/Duke game would have come away with the impression that the IU program is still Blue Blood, if not elite. And would likely tune in to the Michigan game, feeling they will see an IU team that represents. A far cry from how the season started out. Personally, I am feeling much better about the Michigan game, than I did before the Duke game. Still.... it's a road game, and IU can revert back to bad habits. What say you, HSN 3.0 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 Really interested to see how the team responds. Do they build off last night or have a let down? I'm getting ahead of myself here, but as the team improves and tournament talk comes back into the picture, games like this are really important for the resume. It's seems crazy this early, but games against teams like Michigan, Iowa, Maryland, etc., are "bubble games" and given the difficulty of the non-conference and the loss to ISU, it's a game IU could really use a win in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CauseThatsMyDJ Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 Feeling better about this one after seeing Michigan's recent play versus our play against Duke. But I wouldn't be surprised at all if we reverted back to old habits and struggled on the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CauseThatsMyDJ Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 Ken Pom gives us just a 23% chance to win with a final score prediction of 73-65 Michigan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehiiu Posted November 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 7 minutes ago, CauseThatsMyDJ said: Ken Pom gives us just a 23% chance to win with a final score prediction of 73-65 Michigan. Was that before, or after our game against Duke ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CauseThatsMyDJ Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 1 minute ago, milehiiu said: Was that before, or after our game against Duke ? Currently as of this morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmax Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 Looking back I think that the Seton Hall game could really pay dividends here. We've already played on the road, against a quality team, in a hostile environment. This isn't the first one. Really excited for this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehiiu Posted November 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 1 minute ago, CauseThatsMyDJ said: Currently as of this morning. Interesting. I wonder if he hasn't changed it....or what it was, if he did change it. Gotta say, as has been mentioned in this thread already...... having watched IU and Duke play in the challenge, I think our chances of winning should be higher than 23%. Heck, we eventually were just 8.5 dogs to Duke. Which at the time, I thought was crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoomBaby Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 I think a key is whether Davis gets Wagner into foul trouble, or vice versa. Neither team is deep in the post. And as always against Michigan, closeouts are critical. Really need improved defense out of the guards not named Johnson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierhoopster Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 22 minutes ago, madmax said: Looking back I think that the Seton Hall game could really pay dividends here. We've already played on the road, against a quality team, in a hostile environment. This isn't the first one. Really excited for this game. Good point. UM is not going to look like they did yesterday, and our guys probably will not play with the same level of energy -- feeding off AH against the #1 team in the country -- as we did last night. Last night we looked like a team that can beat UM on the road, but how much of it carries over remains to be seen -- I'm optimistic that the team is steadily improving, but winning on the road in the B1G is never easy and UM was embarrassed, they will play a lot harder at home. Still, your point is a good one, we have experience to draw on, hope we do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 25 minutes ago, Hoosierhoopster said: Good point. UM is not going to look like they did yesterday, and our guys probably will not play with the same level of energy -- feeding off AH against the #1 team in the country -- as we did last night. Last night we looked like a team that can beat UM on the road, but how much of it carries over remains to be seen -- I'm optimistic that the team is steadily improving, but winning on the road in the B1G is never easy and UM was embarrassed, they will play a lot harder at home. Still, your point is a good one, we have experience to draw on, hope we do. I think that this upcoming game is where we will really see the value of CAM and his coaching staff. It seems like the last few years were a roller coaster ride, both in terms of emotions as well as the on the court performance. I am looking forward to seeing how this staff and team react after being so completely invested in last night's game. Here's to hoping that the roller coaster stops, or at least the peaks and valleys aren't as pronounced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FWIUFan Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 I think we're seeing this team slowly take on CAM's personality. They're becoming that hard nosed, smart, mentally tough team that is his identity. I don't think last night was an aberration rather a prelude of what we'll look like by end of season. I'm quite optimistic about Sat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbmhoosier Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 Hope to see some drastic improvement from last season's debacle in Ann Arbor. https://foxsportsradio.iheart.com/articles/the-jason-smith-show-journal-482103/no-fanbase-hates-a-coach-more-15512453/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach1K Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 I seem to remember the Jordan Morgan missed shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
addictedtoIU Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 2 hours ago, dbmhoosier said: Hope to see some drastic improvement from last season's debacle in Ann Arbor. https://foxsportsradio.iheart.com/articles/the-jason-smith-show-journal-482103/no-fanbase-hates-a-coach-more-15512453/ I totally forgot we had a 30 point beatdown. BTW, I kinda feel sorry for Crean that he always seemed to get caught when he was not very photogenic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
addictedtoIU Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 3 hours ago, FWIUFan said: I think we're seeing this team slowly take on CAM's personality. They're becoming that hard nosed, smart, mentally tough team that is his identity. I don't think last night was an aberration rather a prelude of what we'll look like by end of season. I'm quite optimistic about Sat. In my opinion, this is one of the most important things that is often not talked about because of its nature being intangible. Teams do get affected by the head coach's personality/demeanor/approach. There was one anecdote I read years ago. Wilhelm Furtwangler, a legendary conductor of Berlin Philharmonic in WW1/WW2 era, was about to have a practice/rehearsal session (don't remember if it was Berlin Phil.). Some musicians were out of tune, others were not quite ready yet, and each musician just practiced his/her own part. So it was just a bunch of noises. But all of a sudden, some people sitting close to the door started making beautiful sounds and all the other musicians turned their heads to see what was happening. It was Furtwangler walking into the hall and people close to the door noticed him first. People understood then and there just by sheer presence, Furtwangler could create beautiful music. Archie can create something beautiful at IU too. I'm a believer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CampHoosier Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 Sitting at 4-3 with two top 25 teams on the schedule before the new year. This is about as must-win as an early game gets. First road win. Keeping up the tempo from a close loss at home to the #1 team. Building on everything from the game prior. Confidence going forward. Dropping to .500 would not be good for this team's chances at any hopes of a tournament run Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CauseThatsMyDJ Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 6 minutes ago, CampHoosier said: Sitting at 4-3 with two top 25 teams on the schedule before the new year. This is about as must-win as an early game gets. First road win. Keeping up the tempo from a close loss at home to the #1 team. Building on everything from the game prior. Confidence going forward. Dropping to .500 would not be good for this team's chances at any hopes of a tournament run The Iowa game is much more must win, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 1 hour ago, CauseThatsMyDJ said: The Iowa game is much more must win, IMO. Actually, losses to Fort Wayne, Tennessee Tech,, or Youngstown State would be even worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbmhoosier Posted December 1, 2017 Report Share Posted December 1, 2017 2 hours ago, addictedtoIU said: I totally forgot we had a 30 point beatdown. BTW, I kinda feel sorry for Crean that he always seemed to get caught when he was not very photogenic. That game was a nightmare. "It's not very often that you shoot 54% from the floor and get drubbed by 30." Hopefully those days are over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehiiu Posted December 1, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2017 1 hour ago, dbmhoosier said: That game was a nightmare. "It's not very often that you shoot 54% from the floor and get drubbed by 30." Hopefully those days are over. After the Duke game, and watching our defense, I tend to think those days are over. Crean's game : beat the other team 91 to 89 by just outscoring them, and forgetting about playing defense. And yes, I know Miller gave up 91 to Duke.... but his team actually played defense. Something we haven't seen for years. And I think we can throw the ISU game out the window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbmhoosier Posted December 1, 2017 Report Share Posted December 1, 2017 ESPN only giving us a 21% chance to win Saturday. It was over 42% last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehiiu Posted December 1, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2017 57 minutes ago, dbmhoosier said: ESPN only giving us a 21% chance to win Saturday. It was over 42% last night. Well, we know that ESPN has some serious problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
addictedtoIU Posted December 1, 2017 Report Share Posted December 1, 2017 5 hours ago, dbmhoosier said: ESPN only giving us a 21% chance to win Saturday. It was over 42% last night. Seems like ESPN takes home court advantage very seriously, which makes some sense in college games, but their weighting system needs to be fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3Ballin Posted December 1, 2017 Report Share Posted December 1, 2017 7 hours ago, milehiiu said: Well, we know that ESPN has some serious problems. Yes, they fired all of their actual experts and are now taking the average of what the game picking chicken, gold fish, octopus, Dackich, llama and chimp say. The llama is the new head of the department so his picks count twice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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