Billingsley99 Posted February 12, 2021 Report Share Posted February 12, 2021 3 minutes ago, KoB2011 said: Couldn't agree more - the thing that is hurting us right now is that one of the guy's who is supposed to be in that stud stage is Rob and he for whatever reason (I suspect his concussion) he just hasn't progressed. You can see he has the physical tools to have developed like you'd hope, it just isn't working out. I have always thought the concussion issue was overated not the right word ibwant but I think now it has had a big impact he is not playing one he did in High school AAU Or his freshmen year. He has all the tools 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted February 12, 2021 Report Share Posted February 12, 2021 1 minute ago, KoB2011 said: Couldn't agree more - the thing that is hurting us right now is that one of the guy's who is supposed to be in that stud stage is Rob and he for whatever reason (I suspect his concussion) he just hasn't progressed. You can see he has the physical tools to have developed like you'd hope, it just isn't working out. You think the concussion issue has had that effect? I've never had one (that I know of) so I don't know how long something like that lingers. I did see Race's segment on one of the BTN shows, and he said it lasted quite a while... I think @rico had a good thought in that his confidence is down because he's looking over his shoulder at Khristian Lander. Rob can see the talent that kid possesses...It's gotta be weighing on him some... He's gotta forget that and just play basketball. I heard John Beilein on a broadcast the other night talking about what HE did when he had a player with a confidence problem. He told them to not shoot, but concentrate on every other facet of the game it would take to help his team win. Eventually, the confidence comes back... Sage advice from a great coach... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted February 12, 2021 Report Share Posted February 12, 2021 41 minutes ago, KoB2011 said: I hope we keep bringing in kids like Gunn and Armaan every year. Contribute some year 1 Really start blossoming year 2 Absolute stud year 3 and year 4. Yep and by the sounds of it Armaan basically told him the same. I'll say it to my death bed. 2002 team is my model. Core of 5-6 3/4 year guys who are starters peppered with elite like JJ. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted February 12, 2021 Report Share Posted February 12, 2021 1 hour ago, IUFLA said: You think the concussion issue has had that effect? I've never had one (that I know of) so I don't know how long something like that lingers. I did see Race's segment on one of the BTN shows, and he said it lasted quite a while... I think @rico had a good thought in that his confidence is down because he's looking over his shoulder at Khristian Lander. Rob can see the talent that kid possesses...It's gotta be weighing on him some... He's gotta forget that and just play basketball. I heard John Beilein on a broadcast the other night talking about what HE did when he had a player with a confidence problem. He told them to not shoot, but concentrate on every other facet of the game it would take to help his team win. Eventually, the confidence comes back... Sage advice from a great coach... It's pure speculation on my part, but concussions can have long-term effects. Given that his issues seem to be more mental than physical, at least to me, I don't think it is something we should rule out. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fundamentals Posted February 12, 2021 Report Share Posted February 12, 2021 CJ Gunn reminds me, frame-wise, of one of my all-tume favorite Hoosiers: Greg Graham. Long, rangy, tall for a guard. I echo the above. This guy will be a load as a Jr/Sr at IU. Archie’s get old, stay old will grow in power as the roster grows and gets stronger further down the bench. One area of growth from previous coach to now: depth. The end our bench no longer has Grant Gelons. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fundamentals Posted February 12, 2021 Report Share Posted February 12, 2021 Oh, and meant to also add how pleased I am for adding a young person of CJ’s character, who didn’t need the ego strokes of stretching out his recruiting. Seems like a quality family. Conversely, shame on you “Dan Dakich” Leary, who was convicted of embezzlement, for derogatory comments about the announcement. The idiocy or stones on Leary are stunning considering the rather public stepping in shat he did. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUfaninIllinois Posted February 12, 2021 Report Share Posted February 12, 2021 15 minutes ago, Fundamentals said: Oh, and meant to also add how pleased I am for adding a young person of CJ’s character, who didn’t need the ego strokes of stretching out his recruiting. Seems like a quality family. Conversely, shame on you “Dan Dakich” Leary, who was convicted of embezzlement, for derogatory comments about the announcement. The idiocy or stones on Leary are stunning considering the rather public stepping in shat he did. And what bothers me is the guy who interviewed CJ Gunn after his announcement let Leary say those things. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted February 12, 2021 Report Share Posted February 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Billingsley99 said: I have always thought the concussion issue was overated not the right word ibwant but I think now it has had a big impact he is not playing one he did in High school AAU Or his freshmen year. He has all the tools Had a concussion playing football...dizziness foggy but that went away in about 5-10 mins replaced by a headache for a day. However my cousin hit his head on basketball floor a few years ago and he was in the hospital for a couple days monitoring him...he had symptoms that lasted months and migraines. Probably somewhere in the middle. I wouldn’t think this far removed he has effects still. To me it’s definitely between his ears...I have my suspicions but hate to say what I think exactly because I don’t want to start rumors and speak what I don’t know. But to me it seems to be not injury health but more mental health related. I’ll stop there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted February 12, 2021 Report Share Posted February 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Fundamentals said: Conversely, shame on you “Dan Dakich” Leary, who was convicted of embezzlement, for derogatory comments about the announcement. The idiocy or stones on Leary are stunning considering the rather public stepping in shat he did. The only thing Leary can teach anybody is how, with a fanbase that worships IU players, to somehow screw that up and get the "in" in front of "famous." 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted February 12, 2021 Report Share Posted February 12, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, IUfaninIllinois said: And what bothers me is the guy who interviewed CJ Gunn after his announcement let Leary say those things. You should have heard Jim Coyle who interviewed CJ , on his show ripping into Archie and calling him inept. He said we will never be good ad long as Archie is the coach. If I was the AD and heard these comments I would not give him press credentials any longer. He was telling and screaming whole show and had to turn it off. Edited February 12, 2021 by IU Scott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUfaninIllinois Posted February 12, 2021 Report Share Posted February 12, 2021 16 minutes ago, IU Scott said: You should have heard Jim Coyle who interviewed CJ , on his show ripping into Archie and calling him inept. He said we will never be good ad long as Archie is the coach. If I was the AD and heard these comments I would not give him press credentials any longer. He was telling and screaming whole show and had to turn it off. So two faced ugh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artesian_86 Posted February 12, 2021 Report Share Posted February 12, 2021 3 hours ago, Fundamentals said: CJ Gunn reminds me, frame-wise, of one of my all-tume favorite Hoosiers: Greg Graham. Long, rangy, tall for a guard. I echo the above. This guy will be a load as a Jr/Sr at IU. Archie’s get old, stay old will grow in power as the roster grows and gets stronger further down the bench. One area of growth from previous coach to now: depth. The end our bench no longer has Grant Gelons. .....I agree with you, but he reminds more of a Jay Edwards body and talent. His high school nickname was “Silk”. Man I loved watching that guy play. Jay was blessed with so much talent, unfortunately he just wanted to do things on his terms and not Coach Knight’s. While I was attending IU in the late 80’s.....he and Lyndon Jones always seemed to show up at some of the parties I frequented. Probably because one of my best friends at the time was also good friends with the both of them. They all graduated Marion High School together... Those were some fun times! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indytime Posted February 12, 2021 Report Share Posted February 12, 2021 Duncomb vs Gunn back in December Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotIThatLives Posted February 12, 2021 Report Share Posted February 12, 2021 8 minutes ago, Indytime said: Duncomb vs Gunn back in December That was one physical game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUskim Posted February 12, 2021 Report Share Posted February 12, 2021 1 hour ago, IU Scott said: You should have heard Jim Coyle who interviewed CJ , on his show ripping into Archie and calling him inept. He said we will never be good ad long as Archie is the coach. If I was the AD and heard these comments I would not give him press credentials any longer. He was telling and screaming whole show and had to turn it off. I heard that too. I used to really really enjoy that show but it has turned into a daily bash Archie show which is fine, if that’s the way you feel. That rant he went on that you’re talking about I just couldn’t listen anymore and I haven’t since. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted February 12, 2021 Report Share Posted February 12, 2021 1 hour ago, IU Scott said: You should have heard Jim Coyle who interviewed CJ , on his show ripping into Archie and calling him inept. He said we will never be good ad long as Archie is the coach. If I was the AD and heard these comments I would not give him press credentials any longer. He was telling and screaming whole show and had to turn it off. That's the one that should be discussed as well. No clue who this Coyle guy is...but to allow that? Leary has made his own bed. This Coyle guy can take a hike too....and if he's on here I'll say this. Do your job better. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted February 12, 2021 Report Share Posted February 12, 2021 19 minutes ago, IUskim said: I heard that too. I used to really really enjoy that show but it has turned into a daily bash Archie show which is fine, if that’s the way you feel. That rant he went on that you’re talking about I just couldn’t listen anymore and I haven’t since. What I found funny was a few weeks ago and during an interview with Mike Decoursey. He was trying to get Decoursey to talk bad about Archie but he didn't agree with Coyle and Coyle seemed butt hurt afterwards. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted February 12, 2021 Report Share Posted February 12, 2021 1 minute ago, Seeking6 said: That's the one that should be discussed as well. No clue who this Coyle guy is...but to allow that? Leary has made his own bed. This Coyle guy can take a hike too....and if he's on here I'll say this. Do your job better. Until a few months ago I did not know who he was but found his show on YouTube. He has some good guess and he is alright doing that but if people don't agree with his takes then he gets butt hurt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUskim Posted February 12, 2021 Report Share Posted February 12, 2021 1 minute ago, IU Scott said: What I found funny was a few weeks ago and during an interview with Mike Decoursey. He was trying to get Decoursey to talk bad about Archie but he didn't agree with Coyle and Coyle seemed butt hurt afterwards. If you can listen to it via podcast I think last week when he has Matt Taylor from the colts on at the beginning of the show he didn’t realize they were live or something he said he hated covering this team or something like that because Archie has no f’n personality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted February 12, 2021 Report Share Posted February 12, 2021 1 minute ago, IUskim said: If you can listen to it via podcast I think last week when he has Matt Taylor from the colts on at the beginning of the show he didn’t realize they were live or something he said he hated covering this team or something like that because Archie has no f’n personality. Youtube you see the off the air stuff and I heard that. If I was Dolson he would no longer had a press pass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13th&Jackson Posted February 12, 2021 Report Share Posted February 12, 2021 24 minutes ago, IUskim said: If you can listen to it via podcast I think last week when he has Matt Taylor from the colts on at the beginning of the show he didn’t realize they were live or something he said he hated covering this team or something like that because Archie has no f’n personality. That’s asinine. Would he prefer someone like Huggins, the king of the one word answers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmax Posted February 13, 2021 Report Share Posted February 13, 2021 5 hours ago, 13th&Jackson said: That’s asinine. Would he prefer someone like Huggins, the king of the one word answers? Or perhaps Crean, the king of 500 word answers that mean nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fundamentals Posted February 13, 2021 Report Share Posted February 13, 2021 6 hours ago, madmax said: Or perhaps Crean, the king of 500 word answers that mean nothing. The most refreshing of all changes. LOVE Archie’s low-key handling of all matters of his role. Zero drama or spin. And very steady roster compared to former times, and that is vital to building and sustaining. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted February 13, 2021 Report Share Posted February 13, 2021 18 hours ago, IU Scott said: You should have heard Jim Coyle who interviewed CJ , on his show ripping into Archie and calling him inept. He said we will never be good ad long as Archie is the coach. If I was the AD and heard these comments I would not give him press credentials any longer. He was telling and screaming whole show and had to turn it off. Wanted to follow up on this one last time. Appears Yogi's is his main sponsor. Do with that what you want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jojo123 Posted February 13, 2021 Report Share Posted February 13, 2021 watched all the video. Nothing but dunks. can he shoot the three? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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