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6"5" Coach Woodson with 7-foot Kyle. It's nice to have a tall coach again. It just is. Archie Miller shown actual size in pic, waiting for the recess bell. (Edit: I still pick on Archie because we finished 300th in the country for free throws, in his 4th year as coach. My therapist says I'll let it go eventually.)

Only two teams in the Big Ten have more than one 2022 commitment. UK has one commit and Duke has zero players committed. Baylor only has one commitment. Some of the highest ranked guys on our list have yet to visit campus.

No matter who Taylor picks there's going to be some big time college basketball programs who missed. That's how it's going to work for every highly rated recruit. The coaching staff gets a long leash after keeping most of our players in the portal then landing Tamar Bates. My first post!!!

This is a big part of what makes HSN so special. We can agree to disagree on lots of things but we all pull and support each other in times of need. HSN truly got me thru the absolute darkest days of my life and MIle and CC were some of the guys that allowed us to share and to open on topics that have nothing to do with basketball. That is why this place is special to me. Its funny that there are people on this site that know more personal info about me and my issues than the people I see on a daily basis at work and such. @mrflynn03we are behind you!!

You may be right but the building on the left was fine. I dont know. I guess we wait to see if someone in the collapsed buildings had dirt on the Clintons. Jk, dont ban me please.

So, you only peek your head out of your shell when there is bad news. Doesn’t matter who the coach is, you just can’t seem to help yourself in the piling on category. SMH

I lost all interest in this event once they brought the pros in. I understand fully why that decision was made, but don’t care if they win a gold or lose

I mean if I’m a kid I’m faking an official visit to Hawaii 🤷🏻‍♂️😂😂

This is very doubtful. While Myles is probably a strong lean towards Turdue anything can happen and it would be lazy if the Hoosier coaches didn't try and recruit him. There are players all over the country that decided they didn't want to play for their parents alma mater.

As expected his top 3 are IU, WVU, and Miami

So everyone gave up on this kid just because of what rabjohns said? 🧐

You are using the "play" awfully loosely there.

LOL...clearly the author of that piece needs a proofreader.

I vote yahoo.

In the article that started this thread he said he was offered by Fife and Woodson. Coach Woodson is new at this but certainly Dane Fife knows enough about recruiting to avoid offering a kid who is a mortal lock for Purdue. Those father/son college connections don't always work. If they did Sean May would have been a Hoosier.

How about "....had dirt on *insert controversial figure of your choice here*.."

From my time watching the Mavs, I would be pretty cautious wanting to coach Luka. He's very ball dominant, a bit of a diva on the court, and I'm honestly not sure how much better he makes others. He's still very young and on his way to a Hall of Fame career and will likely win at least one title, I'm just saying despite being perhaps the most talented of the young stars in the league I'm not sure that he'd be the first one I would pick for my team.

First, I wish you the absolute best in your fight against alcoholism. I truly mean that. With that said, I don’t understand the correlation between that and playing basketball at Wisconsin and being unhappy with that experience? You don't think some people that have played at that level haven't fought alcoholism? I just don't understand your point there? Just because someone realizes the dream of playing Power 5 basketball, which tons of other kids would have killed for the opportunity, doesn't mean the experience is great or even good for that person. Just because it's a coveted spot doesn't make the experience a good one.

Training at a camp this week, Michael Penix, Jr. looked like a quarterback on track to play in IU's opener in 71 days... https://www.thedailyhoosier.com/iu-football-qb-michael-penix-impresses-coaches-at-flight-school-camp/

I think we are overstating Sabonis by a lot. Yes, he made an ASG in the East on a team that's other options missed lot of time. He's actually made the same number of All-Star teams as Jaylen Brown and has a similarly team friendly contract. Do you think those two guys are valued the same? I sure don't.

There's a difference between an elite superstar and a #1. As mentioned above, you could potentially move Sabonis for Colin Sextion. Sexton isn't an elite superstar, but he has the potential to be a #1 scorer on a contending playoff team that is similar to Utah, Atlanta, Phoenix, and teams like that. He has the potential to turn into a Trae Young, a Donovan Mitchell, a Jamal Murray, etc. You put him around Lavert, Brogdon, Warren, Turner, etc., and you have a nice core there with a lead scoring guard, a legit wing scorer in Lavert, a strong secondary ball handler in Brogdon, an elite 3 and D guy in Warren, and a rim protecting/floor spacing big in Turner. That is a lineup that can compete in the Eastern Conference playoffs if you fill the bench out the right way.

My first choice would be offensive line. 2nd choice would be offensive line. Honorable mention would be offensive line. Others receiving votes would be offensive line.

Having lived in the DFW Metroplex for 20+ years now, I consider this commitment to be more significant than it might first appear. I want to hit on the topic of recruiting in the SW and then focus on the level of competition Hoover faced. 1) Cracking the nut that is the Southwest Region I've been thrilled with IU's ability to recruit competitively in Florida, that's no small feat. I don't want to suggest that the number of schools and level of competition we are battling for Florida kids is anything less than extremely high, but I actually think Texas might be on an even (slightly) higher plateau in terms of an uphill battle. This is a result of both the number of top tier regional options as well as the perspective on playing anywhere outside of the SEC or BIG 12. I think it's fair to say the out of region competition for Florida and Texas prospects is probably equivalent. The difference comes into play for closer-to-home options. The Florida list is impressive but I think the Texas list is higher. It's not necessarily only about the relative status of the programs, it's also about the sheer number of programs, and willingness of recruits to leave the region. Florida (11): Florida, Florida St, Miami, South Florida, UCF, Georgia, Ga Tech, Alabama, Auburn, Clemson, and South Carolina Texas (15): Texas, Texas A&M, Baylor, TCU, Houston, SMU, Oklahoma, Oklahoma St, Tulsa, Arkansas, LSU, Louisiana- Lafayette, La Tech, Ole Miss, Miss St Josh Hoover is the type of QB recruit that every school in my Texas list targets (excluding Texas, OU, and LSU). I think it's a slighter bigger deal to beat out Arkansas, Houston, Tulsa, SMU, and La Tech for Hoover than it might appear for people living outside of the region. Especially considering IU's profile in the SW has been virtually non-existent. I unfortunately lived in Orlando for 2 years in addition to many years in Texas (San Antonio and Dallas) so I've had a chance to gain perspective on how a school like IU or the BIG 10 for that matter is perceived in these football hotbeds. As a BIG 10 guy all the way, it's hard to accept/imagine that schools like Tulsa or La Tech are viewed on roughly the same level as middle and third tier BIG 10 programs within the region. Unfortunately my disbelief doesn't make it any less true. Let me rephrase what I said a moment ago, if we consider Tulsa a "Mid Major" the perspective around here until recently is that a school like Indiana or Minnesota is a "Mid Major". Very few higher end 3-star and up recruits have historically given BIG 10 schools (outside of OSU, UM, PSU, and occasionally Wisconsin or Iowa) even a second thought. The Florida kids seem to be a bit more open to out of region options although that didn't really include IU until recent years. Opening up a "second front" in Texas might expand our pool of opportunity just enough to get over the hump and remain nationally relevant on a yearly basis. ANY inroads we make in Texas are significantly important. 2) Josh Hoover's level of competition Hoover put up those 3536 yards and 36 TDs in his Junior year against extremely stout competition. He also started as a Sophomore passing for 2926 yards and 32 TDs. Rockwall-Heath plays in a 6A conference facing the likes of Southlake-Carroll (nationally ranked #15 in 2020), Cedar Hill (nationally ranked #26 in 2020), Rockwall-YJ (fringy top 100 nationally) and inner-city Skyline is no picnic either. Against historical state and national powerhouse Southlake Carroll, Hoover passed for 405 yards and 4 TDs with a 126.5 QB rating. His team would eventually lose in overtime 27-24 to state champion runner-up Cedar Hill and 247sports #47 recruit Kaidon Salter (QB) in the regional finals. This is big-time Texas football at the highest level. Rockwall-Heath finished 2020 as the 17th ranked school in Texas with an 11-3 record. After finishing last season as the 17th ranked 6a team in Texas, in 2021 Rockwall-Heath returns Hoover, 3 of his top 4 receiving targets, and a 1200 yard rusher. I have a hard time gauging high school defenses when the average score is 43-30. While the competition is immense, they are at least in the hunt for the state title. A deep playoff run will likely increase Hoover's notoriety and national exposure. I should mention the only time I've seen Rockwall play was in 2020 against #30 nationally ranked Highland Park... and it was Rockwall-YJ not Rockwall-Heath (i.e. I haven't seen Hoover play)! I don't think this detracts from my perspective though, since my aim is to paint a picture of his competition. Of the schools Rockwall-Heath is battling for a state title, 15 were ranked nationally inside the top 60 high school football teams in America last year. When I watched video of Hoover I saw pocket presence, accuracy, and a strong arm... leaving me wondering if this guy is only the 36th ranked QB what are they feeding these kids. On a side note aimed at placing Rockwall-Heath in the overall hierarchy of Texas athletics, they won the 2021 Texas 6a State Championship in Baseball and finished as the 23rd ranked team in the nation. Hoover was their top pitcher going 11-0 with an ERA under 1.00. His fastball is in the 87-90 MPH range. BTW, his younger brother is emerging as a pretty good athlete too. Here's Josh Hoover's home field in Rockwall (10,000 capacity). 3) What is Hoover lacking compared to the QB's ranked ahead of him? As a few others have mentioned, about 2 inches (I know what you're thinking... don't say it!). However, don't mistake "short" with slight of build (see photo below). If there is concern about his running ability, it's probably legitimate. In his 24 starts he's rushed a grand total of 13 times for 58 yards. When you look at how bulky he is it makes sense, but it might also make you think he'd be effective in short-yardage goal line situations. You'd be right as 5 of those 13 carries were goal line plunges for TDs. I'm not expecting Josh Hoover to come in and overtake the QBs currently in front of him but I don't think of him as some guy on the end of the bench holding a clip board either. He could develop into a guy we'll be glad we have if our starter gets injured and possibly even emerge as our starting QB his last two years of eligibility. Let's not sell him short. Hoover is on right.

Yeah, the Pacers current starting lineup has 4 guys that fall into the second to third option on a good team, plus Turner who is a good rim protector at the 5. We need that number 1 option badly.

I think the Pacers have plenty of #2 and 3's on their team but we need a #1

I'd love to package our pick and either Turner or Sabonis to GSW, then move Warren to the 4, CL to the 3, Brogdon to 2, and draft Davion Mitchell.

Playing for a rival school would be a tough situation IMO.

Didn't Gary Harris' mom play for Turdue before he did, oh wait...

Thanks for sharing. The writer did a ton of work on that one. I didn't realize Indianapolis, IN was in the talent rich state of Florida. Clearly I need to work on my geography.

June 24th, 2021 at 12:24pm CST by Luke Adams In the wake of reports that he has been hired to coach the Pacers, Rick Carlisle offered the following quote to Tim MacMahon of ESPN (Twitter link😞 “It’s a team of skilled, unselfish guys that play hard. It’s always possible that moves could be made before the season, but I think (president of basketball operations Kevin Pritchard) and I are both very excited about getting the roster healthy and seeing what this team can be.”

Luka is extremely nice to the fans off the court(met him a few times since he's entered the league when they play the Pacers), however, on the court is a different story. I agree with you

You do know there is this thing called Covid where kids couldn’t visit campus and on top of that it’s literally a New staff. So what you expect kids to not a pick a team who was courting them for years and all of a sudden just pick IU because of Mike Woodson. The transfer portal worked because it was an even playing field and 2023 it’s an even playing field because those recruits are just now being recruited I fully expect for us to be out on any recruits from 2022 that are committing right now. The ones that aren’t committing until spring of next year you MAYBE have an argument. We aren’t going after low hanging fruit and if we were of course we would win the recruiting battle but we are gonna lose WAY more than we win on recruits because Coach Wood is trying to bring this school back to its glory days PERIOD. Go eat some chicken wings and enjoy life.

And a good 1st post. Welcome to HSN!

AHHHH, I see your Swartz is as big as mine..... muahhaahaha

ATOS Up 20% in two days, gets added to the Russell 3000 index Monday. And, scary that this has become noteworthy, but a close in the neighborhood of $8.50 puts it at over a market cap of $1B.....meaning the Reddit boys might officially jump on.

Those flashes could be electrical buses being ripped out. Could. But either that is the absolute convergence of every variable somehow being perfectly wrong at the same time,or that was intentional. And precision drops like that take at least some degree of planning. What scares me is if that was intentional...what if that was just "practice"?

I don't have any idea what any of those kids have gone through on a personal level. Do any of us?

You mean like Tamar Bates, Logan Duncomb, and how about transfers like Johnson, Kopp, and Durr

Listening to the radio it appeared some of the players didn't like how Sabonis didn't move the ball. When he got the ball it kind of stuck in his hands touch and slowed the offense down

If we signed every single player who visited IU we’d have 45 players on the roster every year. You literally can’t have all of them pick IU.

No one cares

You are an inspiration. I am so glad to hear that you are fighting this. In my prayers

Been following this discussion and I'm going to chime in. Watching and listening to these kids who get an opportunity 98% of others could only dream of and bitching about it Try being an alcoholic, but dont, please. It's a living hell. The greatest challenge of my life. I have to fight it every single day.

This is a good tweet by Reggie. Maybe some of the Pacer players need to look at themselves in the mirror. I could see anyone of Turner, Brogdon or Sabonis traded, or maybe all three. Sabonis is a really good player but I just don't think he is a player you can build a strong team around.

Interesting takes and what not for a situation that was a bunch of entitled brats giving their coach hell for not kissing them goodnight because he is worried about keeping his job

Seeing a video like the one above always makes me pause and reflect how we often take firefighters for granted. I'm pretty sure we have some firefighters that post on this board. I want to take a moment and thank you for what you do. It shouldn't take video from a tragedy like this to make us appreciate you, but sometimes we need a reminder.

never know. everyone and their mother thought TK was automatic to IU. might as well throw your hat in the ring, because if you dont, there is 0 chance you get him rather than a small chance.