Ib4IU Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 6 minutes ago, btownqb said: I am speaking in the past 10-12 years (not as a programs history) In the last 15 years Duke 2 NC’s, 3 FF, 5 elite 8, 11 sweet 16s Kansas 1 NC, 3 FF, 8 elite 8, 10 sweet 16s. Pretty close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
addictedtoIU Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 This is all I could find. Duke is certainly ahead of Kansas, but only 1 or 2 spots. By AP on 3/29/2017 (Best program of all time) By Sporting News (Best program since 2010) 1. UK 2. Duke 3. Kansas 4. UNC 5. Villanova 6. UConn By Bleacher Kentucky Wildcats. UCLA Bruins. North Carolina Tar Heels. Duke Blue Devils. Kansas Jayhawks. Indiana Hoosiers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zlinedavid Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 23 minutes ago, btownqb said: How aren't they? National championships? A(meaning one) step, I'd buy it. Duke is in a more TV-friendly time zone and arguably is in a more attractive physical setting. But.... 14 minutes ago, Ib4IU said: In the last 15 years Duke 2 NC’s, 3 FF, 5 elite 8, 11 sweet 16s Kansas 1 NC, 3 FF, 8 elite 8, 10 sweet 16s. That pretty much speaks for itself. Their results are pretty damn close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierhoopster Posted March 28, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 Late to the party here, but to all -- keep the back and forth respectful, disagree without name calling. Friendly reminder, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 10 minutes ago, Zlinedavid said: A(meaning one) step, I'd buy it. Duke is in a more TV-friendly time zone and arguably is in a more attractive physical setting. But.... That pretty much speaks for itself. Their results are pretty damn close. Fair. I think in eyes of recruits it's a little more, you're right the results are close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 2 hours ago, CincyHoosier said: Side note. Anthony Davis's embrace with "World Wide Wes" after the 2012 national championship game is when amateur college basketball died in my mind for good. Consider yourself lucky. Amateur basketball died for me with Fab 5. Haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 Since we all get to speculate my opinion is all of college basketball is dirty...some filthy some just a couple grass stains but it’s all dirty. Do I think Coach K is getting down and calling people to get his kids taken care of...hell no...do I think like Wooden he turns a blind eye to all it...sure. Only desperate or dumb coaches get involved directly with the money men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billingsley99 Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, dgambill said: Since we all get to speculate my opinion is all of college basketball is dirty...some filthy some just a couple grass stains but it’s all dirty. Do I think Coach K is getting down and calling people to get his kids taken care of...hell no...do I think like Wooden he turns a blind eye to all it...sure. Only desperate or dumb coaches get involved directly with the money men. I coached AAU in the mid 90's and was part of the Nike Family so to speak. Our team was made up of all D2 players and Nike gave us a $50,000 check and told us to spend it how we needed to.... Also each player got all the Nike gear shoes bags etc that they could ever want and we were told wink wink to be sure and collect all of it after season. We had kids that had never left the state of Indiana and for the month of July we were out of state the whole time flying to Vegas. San Diego Orlando and some of these kids did not have a dime and never had to spend one. I just coached one of the teams and did not handle any of the other stuff but let me tell you no one did without. If that is what these guys have access to I can't even begin to imagine what the 5 stars guys are getting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierDom Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 3 hours ago, btownqb said: Not by much? KU has one title in the last like forever... how many does Duke have? Why wouldn't it make sense to go to Duke, great education, closer to home, better team, much better chance to win a NC... Kansas was preseason number 1, without Zion. Duke was preseason number 5 with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADGERVOL Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 1 hour ago, btownqb said: How aren't they? National championships? I’m talking the caliber of kids they are landing because that’s what’s being discussed. They’re recruiting 4-5 times higher than Kansas and Kentucky? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13th&Jackson Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 It was hard to watch the McD AA game. So much talk about the advantages of the top players going together to one place to be a super team. Said Zion wouldn’t be the top pick had he gone to Clemson. Having great players together helps hide individual weakness. Even mentioned Romeo as an example. Said players should really consider whether following their heart is the best business decision. If that’s prevailing opinion, then you’ll have 2 to 3 super teams each year and no one else can compete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FKIM01 Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 5 minutes ago, 13th&Jackson said: It was hard to watch the McD AA game. So much talk about the advantages of the top players going together to one place to be a super team. Said Zion wouldn’t be the top pick had he gone to Clemson. Having great players together helps hide individual weakness. Even mentioned Romeo as an example. Said players should really consider whether following their heart is the best business decision. If that’s prevailing opinion, then you’ll have 2 to 3 super teams each year and no one else can compete Man, I'd like to kick the guy in the nads for saying that. Has he heard of a kid named Ja Morant? What about Ben Simmons or Trae Young? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ib4IU Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 23 minutes ago, FKIM01 said: Man, I'd like to kick the guy in the nads for saying that. Has he heard of a kid named Ja Morant? What about Ben Simmons or Trae Young? They did mention how it was good of Trae to go to a place that needed him and his scoring as badly as Oklahoma. They made the counter arguement but it’s ESPN and they were definitely for the top players attending a few schools. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FKIM01 Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 5 minutes ago, Ib4IU said: They did mention how it was good of Trae to go to a place that needed him and his scoring as badly as Oklahoma. They made the counter arguement but it’s ESPN and they were definitely for the top players attending a few schools. ...especially if those teams have a lot of their games on...ESPN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 11 minutes ago, FKIM01 said: ...especially if those teams have a lot of their games on...ESPN. No doubt...man why can't FOXS1 do a special on Indiana? I mean Duke and UK sell advertisements for ESPN but the fact they get to use it as recruiting platform for them...makes me sick. Let's work out a deal with FOX to show our behind the scenes coaching. Make it happen Archie!!! Promote Indiana Basketball! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13th&Jackson Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 19 minutes ago, Ib4IU said: They did mention how it was good of Trae to go to a place that needed him and his scoring as badly as Oklahoma. They made the counter arguement but it’s ESPN and they were definitely for the top players attending a few schools. Yes and they said as a point guard, Trey was able to call his own number a lot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 This isn't the thread for it, but speaking of the McDonald's Game, have we had less excitement for an in-coming McDonald's AA than we do for TJD? I remember in years past having what amounted to game threads when guys were in the McDonald's Game. Hardly a peep about it and how TJD looked on here. With every other recent Burger Boy I made sure to watch the game. I didn't even know it was on last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADGERVOL Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 8 minutes ago, BGleas said: This isn't the thread for it, but speaking of the McDonald's Game, have we had less excitement for an in-coming McDonald's AA than we do for TJD? I remember in years past having what amounted to game threads when guys were in the McDonald's Game. Hardly a peep about it and how TJD looked on here. With every other recent Burger Boy I made sure to watch the game. I didn't even know it was on last night. I used to always watch that game and lately since it’s rhe Duke UK game I don’t watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13th&Jackson Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 16 minutes ago, BGleas said: This isn't the thread for it, but speaking of the McDonald's Game, have we had less excitement for an in-coming McDonald's AA than we do for TJD? I remember in years past having what amounted to game threads when guys were in the McDonald's Game. Hardly a peep about it and how TJD looked on here. With every other recent Burger Boy I made sure to watch the game. I didn't even know it was on last night. TJD had a couple of nice dunks, but you just can't tell much from a game like that. Just up and down freestyle, guys pulling up for 30 foot 3s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indykev Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 22 minutes ago, BGleas said: This isn't the thread for it, but speaking of the McDonald's Game, have we had less excitement for an in-coming McDonald's AA than we do for TJD? I remember in years past having what amounted to game threads when guys were in the McDonald's Game. Hardly a peep about it and how TJD looked on here. With every other recent Burger Boy I made sure to watch the game. I didn't even know it was on last night. It would be nice if the mods kept up with things like this.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 1 hour ago, 13th&Jackson said: TJD had a couple of nice dunks, but you just can't tell much from a game like that. Just up and down freestyle, guys pulling up for 30 foot 3s. I know, but there was always excitement around it for guys in the past, even bigs like Zeller, Vonleh and Bryant who wouldn’t really thrive in the setting. Just seems like not a ton of excitment around him for some reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parakeet Jones Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 4 minutes ago, BGleas said: I know, but there was always excitement around it for guys in the past, even bigs like Zeller, Vonleh and Bryant who wouldn’t really thrive in the setting. Just seems like not a ton of excitment around him for some reason. Bad season fatigue, maybe? I really have no idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zlinedavid Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 2 hours ago, 13th&Jackson said: It was hard to watch the McD AA game. So much talk about the advantages of the top players going together to one place to be a super team. Said Zion wouldn’t be the top pick had he gone to Clemson. Having great players together helps hide individual weakness. Even mentioned Romeo as an example. Said players should really consider whether following their heart is the best business decision. If that’s prevailing opinion, then you’ll have 2 to 3 super teams each year and no one else can compete Zion would have been the top pick at any remotely major program. He's the most NBA ready freshman in a long damn time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muckraker Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 1 hour ago, 13th&Jackson said: TJD had a couple of nice dunks, but you just can't tell much from a game like that. Just up and down freestyle, guys pulling up for 30 foot 3s. I think Trendon assisted on at least 2 of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADGERVOL Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 I am ABSOLUTELY convinced that most top guys want to be one of only 2 or so main guys on a team. The ONLY reasons these super teams form is because of a rare unity of guys in the AAU circuit that want to go together (every now and then), OR someone is paying. Sorry it isn’t happening on a consistent basis without other payments involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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