Hoosrnight Posted September 27, 2017 Report Share Posted September 27, 2017 5 minutes ago, KoB2011 said: I think they'd have to get a benefit or sign an agreement, could be wrong. I think this is likely a bad connection, but I don't think anything will come of it. They have wire taps and hard evidence of the other things, this would be from before the investigation and would not be as easy to prove. Why should Sean be fired? He said these head coaches would hire these assistants knowing the connections they would have for recruiting, that that's why you hire "recruiters". So if these assistants had iffy connections the head coach i.e. Sean would know that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoInHoosier25 Posted September 27, 2017 Report Share Posted September 27, 2017 5 minutes ago, Hoosrnight said: He said these head coaches would hire these assistants knowing the connections they would have for recruiting, that that's why you hire "recruiters". So if these assistants had iffy connections the head coach i.e. Sean would know that. So what about Kenny Johnson working for/recruiting for Crean? If what Dakich is saying is true, then how can anyone definitively say Crean was squeaky clean? I'm not bashing Crean or making this thread about him. Just concerned that once all these people start talking, some old dirt on IU could come up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newhavenwarford Posted September 27, 2017 Report Share Posted September 27, 2017 1 minute ago, SoInHoosier25 said: So what about Kenny Johnson working for/recruiting for Crean? If what Dakich is saying is true, then how can anyone definitively say Crean was squeaky clean? I'm not bashing Crean or making this thread about him. Just concerned that once all these people start talking, some old dirt on IU could come up. I hope he didn't pay for Troy.....That's some expensive turnovers lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Posted September 27, 2017 Report Share Posted September 27, 2017 32 minutes ago, newhavenwarford said: Who knows Vitale could of even received cash from adidas and nike just to promote player a or player b on national tv to get there names out there....who knows with how dirty college sports are It wouldn't surprise me and I don't like it, but that's a whole lot different than taking money from Adidas as a payment to influence the decision of a kid who trusts that you're looking out for his best interests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FW_Hoosier Posted September 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2017 Vitale and Dakich are typical media hypocrites. Wasn't Vitale just shilling for Pitino after the punishment for the hookers came down? But now he's "disgusted." And why didn't Dan advocate for his own firing after the Sampson mess? Everyone should be held accountable, except for him. As for Miller, Richardson has worked under him for a decade. There's almost no way Sean could have been unaware of what he was doing, at least as it related to paying recruits to come to Arizona. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierJax Posted September 27, 2017 Report Share Posted September 27, 2017 2 minutes ago, SoInHoosier25 said: So what about Kenny Johnson working for/recruiting for Crean? If what Dakich is saying is true, then how can anyone definitively say Crean was squeaky clean? I'm not bashing Crean or making this thread about him. Just concerned that once all these people start talking, some old dirt on IU could come up. Crean would have to be a fool to play dirty after the rebuild job he went Thur with Indiana...keep in mind it was kinda of a surprise when Johnson left..I believe he got a substantial raise at Louisville Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosrnight Posted September 27, 2017 Report Share Posted September 27, 2017 16 minutes ago, SoInHoosier25 said: So what about Kenny Johnson working for/recruiting for Crean? If what Dakich is saying is true, then how can anyone definitively say Crean was squeaky clean? I'm not bashing Crean or making this thread about him. Just concerned that once all these people start talking, some old dirt on IU could come up. That was my first thought when he said that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FKIM01 Posted September 27, 2017 Report Share Posted September 27, 2017 BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!! Kudos to whoever tagged Not only Pitino, but Williams and Calipari in this thread...well played! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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FKIM01 Posted September 27, 2017 Report Share Posted September 27, 2017 Oh please..."I'm innocent! I'm innocent!" Ricky, just like the bot who cried wolf, you've used that line one too many times. I'd suggest using your leave time constructively to help O.J. find the real killers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newhavenwarford Posted September 27, 2017 Report Share Posted September 27, 2017 4 minutes ago, FKIM01 said: BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!! Kudos to whoever tagged Not only Pitino, but Williams and Calipari in this thread...well played! what are you talking about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobSaccamanno Posted September 27, 2017 Report Share Posted September 27, 2017 Dear Mr. Pitino, who was the head coach at Louisville, a position that is responsible for the culture and atmosphere and the Louisville basketball "way," an environment that still wasn't cleaned up after the hookergate? After hookergate, did the head coach make clear what the culture would be going forward and that any improper behavior would not be tolerated? That is the best case scenario for Pitino, that he is a dimwit who did not set up a good culture but did not know about illicit activity. More realistically, the guy who was entangled with Karen Sypher knew all of this. He's a thug. End of argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted September 27, 2017 Report Share Posted September 27, 2017 4 hours ago, CauseThatsMyDJ said: First off, let me say that I don't believe Crean cheats. I think his inability to get Top 20 recruits reflects that. In fact, I'll go so far as to say that I think Adidas played a hand in moving Kenny Johnson to Louisville because Kenny couldn't do what they wanted him to do at IU because of Crean. That barrier obviously did not exist at Louisville. That said, Crean to UL can't work for a number of reasons. First and foremost is that whether he was allowed to cheat at IU or not, the fact is that Kenny Johnson worked for him and there is a relationship there that Crean can't make go away. Look at it this way. Would we have been okay with IU hiring someone that was affiliated with Sampson even though that person had never been accused of wrongdoing? IU could not afford to have made such a hire. It would have been a PR nightmare. UL is in the same boat here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FKIM01 Posted September 27, 2017 Report Share Posted September 27, 2017 2 minutes ago, newhavenwarford said: what are you talking about? If you go back out to the basketball discussion section and look under the title of this topic, there are three very appropriate tags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUALUM03 Posted September 27, 2017 Report Share Posted September 27, 2017 28 minutes ago, HoosierJax said: Crean would have to be a fool to play dirty after the rebuild job he went Thur with Indiana...keep in mind it was kinda of a surprise when Johnson left..I believe he got a substantial raise at Louisville Agree and I think one of the determining factors of Kenny going to UofL was that they would play ball and Indiana wouldn't. One of the most glaring issues I have with this outside the obvious is that essentially Adidas, our athletic sponsor, was competitively working against us by these actions. That straight up pisses me off as of fan of IU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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IUALUM03 Posted September 27, 2017 Report Share Posted September 27, 2017 12 minutes ago, 5fouls said: First off, let me say that I don't believe Crean cheats. I think his inability to get Top 20 recruits reflects that. In fact, I'll go so far as to say that I think Adidas played a hand in moving Kenny Johnson to Louisville because Kenny couldn't do what they wanted him to do at IU because of Crean. That barrier obviously did not exist at Louisville. That said, Crean to UL can't work for a number of reasons. First and foremost is that whether he was allowed to cheat at IU or not, the fact is that Kenny Johnson worked for him and there is a relationship there that Crean can't make go away. Look at it this way. Would we have been okay with IU hiring someone that was affiliated with Sampson even though that person had never been accused of wrongdoing? IU could not afford to have made such a hire. It would have been a PR nightmare. UL is in the same boat here. Just missed this while I was typing. Couldn't agree more and this is further supporting evidence that Pitino and his lack of control created the environment that brought him down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyHoosier Posted September 27, 2017 Report Share Posted September 27, 2017 2 minutes ago, newhavenwarford said: That is brilliant! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierhoopster Posted September 27, 2017 Report Share Posted September 27, 2017 ^^ Yeah that shirt is great humor! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted September 27, 2017 Report Share Posted September 27, 2017 It will be very interesting to see how all of this plays out. Louisville and Arizona can't be the only big name schools with their wallets open. Does anyone seriously think that UK, Duke, Kansas, etc. can land the number of Top ten talents they do when they are competing with 6 figure payoffs from other schools? Anyone with any brains and their head not in the sand can see that. College basketball needs to be torn down to its foundation and rebuilt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BtownBallers Posted September 27, 2017 Report Share Posted September 27, 2017 8 minutes ago, IUALUM03 said: Agree and I think one of the determining factors of Kenny going to UofL was that they would play ball and Indiana wouldn't. One of the most glaring issues I have with this outside the obvious is that essentially Adidas, our athletic sponsor, was competitively working against us by these actions. That straight up pisses me off as of fan of IU. Damn... that really pisses me off too. I hadn’t thought about this from that angle. I don’t think Nike or UA are gonna come out clean in all of this either, but I’m more ready than ever to drop Adidas at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted September 27, 2017 Report Share Posted September 27, 2017 I've stated why Crean to UL does not make sense. Try this one on for size though. Underwood goes down because of what happened at Oklahoma State. Crean to Illinois. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FW_Hoosier Posted September 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2017 38 minutes ago, FKIM01 said: BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!! Kudos to whoever tagged Not only Pitino, but Williams and Calipari in this thread...well played! I added those tags when I first posted the thread yesterday morning, before any names were even released. Figured there was a good chance they would be applicable, haha. I'm 1/3 so far, let's see if I can go 3/3 by the time this is all over... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drroogh Posted September 27, 2017 Report Share Posted September 27, 2017 23 minutes ago, newhavenwarford said: Dang! There goes my bracket again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted September 27, 2017 Report Share Posted September 27, 2017 Meanwhile, while all of this is going on, since the NCAA is going to have its hands full for a while, UNC decided to add 5 more fake classes to their curriculum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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