IU Scott Posted January 15, 2021 Report Share Posted January 15, 2021 4 minutes ago, AshtonHershey said: The best shots are open and balanced. An open layup should be about 90% (1.8 PPS), an open mid-range jumper should be about 50% (1.0 PPS) and an open three should also be about 50% (1.5 PPS). Basically, you're sacrificing half of a point, minimum, every time you take a mid-range jumper. If you put enough movement into the possession, you should be able to create an open layup or three. Analytics is killing the game the way it was supposed to be played. Basketball teams scored well before the analytics came along and the product on the court was better as well. You can't tell me that the product we see from a lot of teams in college is good. Calbert Cheaney scored more points in the big ten by hitting a lot of mid range shots so it can be done. that IU team scored around 85 points a game and now a lot of teams are scoring in the 60's with all of this analytics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotIThatLives Posted January 15, 2021 Report Share Posted January 15, 2021 4 minutes ago, ephul said: Disagree 100% Explain why he doesn't have a job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted January 15, 2021 Report Share Posted January 15, 2021 1 minute ago, NotIThatLives said: Not until I know he has turned down 10 years 100 million. What if he demands 12 years and 120 million instead? We better accept his counter if he did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted January 15, 2021 Report Share Posted January 15, 2021 7 minutes ago, 5fouls said: Scott. If you are an administrator needing to hire a basketball coach, and you don't call Brad Stevens, then you have failed at your job. I don't care if it is IU, Duke, UK, or Montana State. You ask the man to see what it would take. If he tells you no, so be it. But, you have to ask, So, no, we should not stop talking about Brad Stevens. Again I said to ask but it won't go any further Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted January 15, 2021 Report Share Posted January 15, 2021 4 minutes ago, NotIThatLives said: Not until I know he has turned down 10 years 100 million. No way a college coach will get offered that deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leathernecks Posted January 15, 2021 Report Share Posted January 15, 2021 For once, I agree with that shady @5fouls character! Whenever the next coaching search is, you offer as much as you can to Stevens. As long as it is north of 6 or 7 million. Don't make an embarrassing offer. If he says no a few times, you do the same with Wright. If he says no, you do the same thing with the next best option. If we end up having to hire a mid major coach, those other offers wouldn't have mattered. Do we really think Archie would have turned us down if we already offered Stevens, Donovan, Wright, and Bennett? I highly doubt that. The mid major coach will always be there. You have to shoot for the stars first. The only way it is embarrassing is if you offer a low amount of money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted January 15, 2021 Report Share Posted January 15, 2021 Just now, IU Scott said: Again I said to ask but it won't go any further You don't know that. 5 years ago, you couldn't have got me to move from Southern Indiana. It's home. Today? I'm sick of cold weather and fully expect to be moving to the Southwest when I retire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotIThatLives Posted January 15, 2021 Report Share Posted January 15, 2021 14 minutes ago, BDB said: Where is this $10mil coming from? That is not the IU way and that is a fact. I already literally gave my 2 sh*** today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDB Posted January 15, 2021 Report Share Posted January 15, 2021 Just now, 5fouls said: What if he demands 12 years and 120 million instead? We better accept his counter if he did. Why not just start with a lifetime contract? It seems to be working well for UK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted January 15, 2021 Report Share Posted January 15, 2021 4 minutes ago, ATX_sig said: I'd like to get a coach from the following 3: Beard Drew Matta I don't think Stevens would come but IU should make the call. One sleeper coach for me would be Bobby Hurley. Wasn't he at Buffalo before Oats. I like Hurley better. Anyway, if IU does pull a trigger, I hope they send out feelers behind the scenes and go after a target. Texas did that replacing Strong then Herman in football and quickly got their guy. None of this dump Archie stuff then taking a long time to figure it out. I'd rather keep Archie than strike out in a search then hire someone to just hire someone. I would hate Hurley and can't stand him. He has been just mediocre at Arizona St. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoosier_exotics Posted January 15, 2021 Report Share Posted January 15, 2021 Unless Saban starts coaching basketball, 10 million isnt happening for a college b ball coach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotIThatLives Posted January 15, 2021 Report Share Posted January 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, IU Scott said: No way a college coach will get offered that deal Pretty sure the top programs including ours typically bring in north of 40 mil annually. They don't pay player salaries, so yes, they actually can and it won't be long before we see these numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted January 15, 2021 Report Share Posted January 15, 2021 Just now, NotIThatLives said: Pretty sure the top programs including ours typically bring in north of 40 mil annually. They don't pay player salaries, so yes, they actually can and it won't be long before we see these numbers. With the country going through a pandemic no way a state institution will pay that much money plus the buyout. With most stated losing a lot of money there is no way to justify paying a basketball that much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted January 15, 2021 Report Share Posted January 15, 2021 Brownell would take the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted January 15, 2021 Report Share Posted January 15, 2021 Just now, rico said: Brownell would take the job. No doubt he would but he is not an upgrade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotIThatLives Posted January 15, 2021 Report Share Posted January 15, 2021 Just now, IU Scott said: With the country going through a pandemic no way a state institution will pay that much money plus the buyout. With most stated losing a lot of money there is no way to justify paying a basketball that much. The program supports itself. People calling it state money is semantics, I guess. I don't know what else to call it. But the program pays for itself, at least 2 times over annually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted January 15, 2021 Report Share Posted January 15, 2021 Just now, IU Scott said: No doubt he would but he is not an upgrade Says who? You. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted January 15, 2021 Report Share Posted January 15, 2021 1 minute ago, rico said: Says who? You. Clemson Tigers (Atlantic Coast Conference) (2010–present) 2010–11 Clemson 22–12 9–7 T–4th NCAA Division I Round of 64 2011–12 Clemson 16–15 8–8 7th 2012–13 Clemson 13–18 5–13 11th 2013–14 Clemson 23–13 10–8 6th NIT Semifinal 2014–15 Clemson 16–15 8–10 T–9th 2015–16 Clemson 17–14 10–8 T–7th 2016–17 Clemson 17–16 6–12 12th NIT First Round 2017–18 Clemson 25–10 11–7 T–3rd NCAA Division I Sweet 16 2018–19 Clemson 20–14 9–9 T–8th NIT Second Round 2019–20 Clemson 16–15 9–11 9th Postseason not held 2020–21 Clemson 9–1 3-1 Clemson: 190–143 (.571) 88–94 (.484) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inequality Posted January 15, 2021 Report Share Posted January 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, rico said: Brownell would take the job. So would I. I don’t know what my record would be but You better believe it we lost to Purdue at home these kids would still be running stairs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUwins0708 Posted January 15, 2021 Report Share Posted January 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, rico said: Says who? You. Yeah no thanks on Brownell for me too. Lateral move in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jv1972iu Posted January 15, 2021 Report Share Posted January 15, 2021 6 minutes ago, IU Scott said: No doubt he would but he is not an upgrade So Scott, I'm sure that you have told us, but humor me and tell me who you would hire. Just curious. Not slamming you here. 😊 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted January 15, 2021 Report Share Posted January 15, 2021 Just now, jv1972iu said: So Scott, I'm sure that you have told us, but humor me and tell me who you would hire. Just curious. Gregg Marshall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted January 15, 2021 Report Share Posted January 15, 2021 1 minute ago, jv1972iu said: So Scott, I'm sure that you have told us, but humor me and tell me who you would hire. Just curious. Not slamming you here. 😊 You check with some of the top names but I know they won't come. I would make a run at Beard at TT and check with Matta and Belien. I would also interview Keith Smart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted January 15, 2021 Report Share Posted January 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, IUwins0708 said: Yeah no thanks on Brownell for me too. Lateral move in my opinion. Lateral move. I am sick of hearing that. Archie was a mid-major coach and he has failed. Brownell was a mid-major coach and now at Clemson at least he can beat Purdue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted January 15, 2021 Report Share Posted January 15, 2021 1 minute ago, rico said: Gregg Marshall. Was my top choice when we hired Archie but not now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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