5fouls Posted March 20, 2021 Report Share Posted March 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, 13th&Jackson said: Musselman is just a CBB tourist Until he's not. People thought the same thing about Cal. Give a guy the right college coaching gig and he may hang around. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobSaccamanno Posted March 20, 2021 Report Share Posted March 20, 2021 (edited) For those interested, here’s an article on Beard’s defense. https://www.theringer.com/march-madness/2019/4/3/18293467/chris-beard-texas-tech-jarrett-culver-final-four-defense I really think Musselman and Beard are very intriguing names. We don’t know how high they are on Dolson’s list but we should know fairly soon. I will say both have recruited transfers well. What I like is they aren’t willing to sacrifice whole seasons. Whether they can use the Indiana brand and ratchet up the recruiting is a question. But we are talking about two highly competent coaches. Edited March 20, 2021 by BobSaccamanno 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyHoosier Posted March 20, 2021 Report Share Posted March 20, 2021 I wonder if Dolson's comments about "not hearing from me until we have our guy" will bite him in the @ss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyHoosier Posted March 20, 2021 Report Share Posted March 20, 2021 Just now, CincyHoosier said: I wonder if Dolson's comments about "not hearing from me until we have our guy" will bite him in the @ss It's a rhetorical question btw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaplesHoosier Posted March 20, 2021 Report Share Posted March 20, 2021 Asked the owner of @celticsforum if he’s heard anything about Brad getting a big raise today and he said “Nope. Nothing”. Just FYI guys. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muddy River Posted March 20, 2021 Report Share Posted March 20, 2021 17 minutes ago, MoyeCowbell said: Agreed. I got caught up in the whirlwind fantasy as well, but stepping back, I realize that it was just that: a fantasy. We've talked a few times about how the actual product on the floor is worlds better at the NBA level vs college. The NBA is the pinnacle for playing, and I think for coaching as well. It's where the best of the best are, and to make it there means you are one of the absolute greats. Our collective emotion was completely blinding the obvious. He's a smart man who coaches one of the top teams in the world. Probably not gonna walk away from that when winning an NBA championship is the ultimate litmus test/goal. So, how is this different from college football and the NFL, and where does Nick Saban fit into that equation? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parakeet Jones Posted March 20, 2021 Report Share Posted March 20, 2021 7 minutes ago, NaplesHoosier said: Asked the owner of @celticsforum if he’s heard anything about Brad getting a big raise today and he said “Nope. Nothing”. Just FYI guys. The NaplesHoosier? If so a bad day just got a whole lot better. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaplesHoosier Posted March 20, 2021 Report Share Posted March 20, 2021 Just now, Parakeet Jones said: The NaplesHoosier? If so a bad day just got a whole lot better. In the flesh Jonesy! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoyeCowbell Posted March 20, 2021 Report Share Posted March 20, 2021 1 minute ago, Muddy River said: So, how is this different from college football and the NFL, and where does Nick Saban fit into that equation? Of course there are many, many examples of extremely talented coaches staying/returning to college and being wildly successful. I think if you can coach well, you can coach well. Simple. That said, the professional ranks are the pinnacle of each respective sport. Kids grow up wanting to "play in the NBA", "play in the NFL", etc. It's where the best of the best reside. And to either play or coach in these ranks, means you're pretty damn good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parakeet Jones Posted March 20, 2021 Report Share Posted March 20, 2021 Just now, NaplesHoosier said: In the flesh Jonesy! There is still a dinner waiting on you at The Overlook whenever they open back up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted March 20, 2021 Report Share Posted March 20, 2021 1 hour ago, Steubenhoosier said: Per Dolson, he promised that there would be a great upgrade to the HC position with his hire. We are now parsing through these guys and whether they are worthy candidates. Sure hope whoever ponied up the $10.3 wasn’t sold a bill of goods Before a few days ago know one thought Stevens was even a possibility so the candidates we thought was realistic is still out there. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2345 Posted March 20, 2021 Report Share Posted March 20, 2021 I’m thinking the raise stuff was a load of crap but who knows. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muddy River Posted March 20, 2021 Report Share Posted March 20, 2021 7 minutes ago, MoyeCowbell said: Of course there are many, many examples of extremely talented coaches staying/returning to college and being wildly successful. I think if you can coach well, you can coach well. Simple. That said, the professional ranks are the pinnacle of each respective sport. Kids grow up wanting to "play in the NBA", "play in the NFL", etc. It's where the best of the best reside. And to either play or coach in these ranks, means you're pretty damn good. I can agree with you on players, but not so much coaches. Isaiah Thomas, and Randy Whittman coached in the NBA, but no one would consider either of them a better coach than coach Knight, who never coached in the NBA. Pro sports and college sports are different games that require different skills. It's been proven time and again that because you are successful at one, it's no guarantee you will be at the other. I don't think a coach has to be successful at the professional level to be considered one of the greats, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2345 Posted March 20, 2021 Report Share Posted March 20, 2021 Celtics are going to lose to the Kings 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted March 20, 2021 Report Share Posted March 20, 2021 8 minutes ago, Muddy River said: I can agree with you on players, but not so much coaches. Isaiah Thomas, and Randy Whittman coached in the NBA, but no one would consider either of them a better coach than coach Knight, who never coached in the NBA. Pro sports and college sports are different games that require different skills. It's been proven time and again that because you are successful at one, it's no guarantee you will be at the other. I don't think a coach has to be successful at the professional level to be considered one of the greats, The difference is though that you always hear of top college coaches either trying pro or being linked to wanting to try pro sports. Spurrier, Stevens, Saban, Pitino, Cal, Beilein, Urban Meyer, etc. Its even been questioned whether at some point when they were younger if Izzo or Coach K would try the NBA. But, you're never going to hear about Belichick or Popovich, etc. wanting to test themselves in college. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bustout Posted March 20, 2021 Report Share Posted March 20, 2021 37 minutes ago, BobSaccamanno said: For those interested, here’s an article on Beard’s defense. https://www.theringer.com/march-madness/2019/4/3/18293467/chris-beard-texas-tech-jarrett-culver-final-four-defense I really think Musselman and Beard are very intriguing names. We don’t know how high they are on Dolson’s list but we should know fairly soon. I will say both have recruited transfers well. What I like is they aren’t willing to sacrifice whole seasons. Whether they can use the Indiana brand and ratchet up the recruiting is a question. But we are talking about two highly competent coaches. Im very intrigued by Musselman and think he will get a payday soon. He’s not a typical up and comer, assistant coach type guy. Plus, he coached with Keith Smart before - wonder if he’d consider a reunion. People claim he’s an offensive guru. Hes all about building culture - albeit - he can come off a little over the top. But he’s ALL OVER social media. So offense + a big personality ... complete 180 from Archie. He’s from Ohio. Knows the mid west. His dad coached at minny. So he’s very familiar with IU b-ball. I know Beard has a GREAT resume, but for some reason, I’m a bit hesitant / overly sensitive. Probably because he’s a defense-first guy and so was Archie. in the end. Probably can’t go wrong. But, if word on the street is that IU is willing to pay 7mm+, I wonder if feelers go out to Bennett, Donovan, etc. Most likely not. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B_A Posted March 20, 2021 Report Share Posted March 20, 2021 2 hours ago, Steubenhoosier said: Kelvin Sampson was the worst coach in IU history, hands down. Dude, when does the piling on stop? The Winning % disagree too. #hottakefailboomer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steubenhoosier Posted March 20, 2021 Report Share Posted March 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, B_A said: The Winning % disagree too. #hottakefailboomer Love the hashtag. You clearly got me. Happy for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted March 20, 2021 Report Share Posted March 20, 2021 40 minutes ago, Parakeet Jones said: There is still a dinner waiting on you at The Overlook whenever they open back up. They are still closed? Wow. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IbleedIUcrimson Posted March 20, 2021 Report Share Posted March 20, 2021 Let's just get this out there now... Damon Bailey boys.... let's gooo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUaic Posted March 20, 2021 Report Share Posted March 20, 2021 What about North Texas's coach? He can beat Purdue. Too soon? 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoyeCowbell Posted March 20, 2021 Report Share Posted March 20, 2021 21 minutes ago, Muddy River said: I can agree with you on players, but not so much coaches. Isaiah Thomas, and Randy Whittman coached in the NBA, but no one would consider either of them a better coach than coach Knight, who never coached in the NBA. Pro sports and college sports are different games that require different skills. It's been proven time and again that because you are successful at one, it's no guarantee you will be at the other. I don't think a coach has to be successful at the professional level to be considered one of the greats, Perhaps I didn't explain my position well enough. I'm not suggesting that college coaches cannot be considered "great". Of course they can. And we can use examples until the cows come home from both college and professional of "good" and "bad" coaches and their level of success. I still maintain that winning at the professional level -- as currently constructed -- is a bigger deal* than at college. *Objectively speaking in terms of the "basketball food pyramid". (Emotionally and subjectively, I think IU winning another National Championship would be the biggest thing ever, and I would be living on cloud 9 for a long, long time.) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoyeCowbell Posted March 20, 2021 Report Share Posted March 20, 2021 On a positive note, we didn't lose in the first round like our B1G brethren. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2345 Posted March 20, 2021 Report Share Posted March 20, 2021 Maybe IU dodged a bullet. I mean Stevens can’t beat the Cavs or Kings these days! 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoyeCowbell Posted March 20, 2021 Report Share Posted March 20, 2021 Just now, DC2345 said: Maybe IU dodged a bullet. I mean Stevens can’t beat the Cavs or Kings these days! Discount next year! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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