BobSaccamanno Posted March 27, 2022 Report Share Posted March 27, 2022 4 hours ago, FKIM01 said: Izzo apparently has a much higher opinion of XB than the Indiana fanbase does... He seems to fit the profile of what Woody is looking for. Tall, mobile, able to shoot….Lets see where Kenya and Woody take this if the main recruiter has switched from Dane to Kenya. It also felt like Woody has also taken interest in the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BobSaccamanno Posted March 27, 2022 Popular Post Report Share Posted March 27, 2022 8 hours ago, IUJoe said: Perhaps this is an unpopular opinion, but, quite frankly, I'm a little tired of coaches at Indiana University thinking they have to spend every waking moment pandering to Indiana high school coaches and players. What has that gotten us in the past couple decades? A lot of players who have used an IU offer as something to brag about until they get something they want more? Look, Indiana high school players have a blue-blood program right here with a coach that has been in the NBA for over 30 years, who knows how to get people there. Indiana coaches and players know where he is without him having to show his face at every single event, looking desperate and just like everyone else. If Indiana high school coaches and players think it's more attractive to go learn how to sumo wrestle at Purdue, MSU, or Wisconsin rather than prepare for the NBA, so be it. Indiana is a national program, and under Woodson should be able to get great players from everywhere. The Indiana kids will soon-enough know what they missed out on. I love this post. Over the past decade or so, there has been this narrative of Indiana high school coaches that seems to be really unfair. Some guys make them sound like delicate flower princesses who need to be the belle of the ball all of the time. I don’t think they are that delicate and they can comprehend that the head coach of Indiana basketball is a big deal. He’s got a lot on his plate and they can respect that. Whoever the coach is has a highly respected job. This drum beat that the state coaches need to be constantly wooed and stroked is ridiculous. These are grown men who know that Woody is fully loaded in obligations and responsibilities. He’s from Indy, he played here, and he loves high school basketball and coaches in Indiana. That’s what matters. They know that. They also know whether he’s interested in their player and what he is offering in terms of opportunity, player development, etc. 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobSaccamanno Posted March 27, 2022 Report Share Posted March 27, 2022 7 hours ago, btownqb said: I can go along with a missed opportunity. But, there are plenty of solid reasons that could be the reason for that. It was coaches birthday this week. What if his wife said on our birthdays or holidays out of season... we always spend a weekend together? I'm just saying its workable that he could not have atrended yesterday, but also shouldn't be categorized as incompetent. I don't think you have necessarily done that, some have though. No question. Whether anyone wants to admit it or not.. coaches are actually humans as well, and holy cow... maybe he needed to mentally relax for a night and watched the games on TV. All of that is way more believable then... he doesn't care. Totally. If I were a player or his high school coach, and Woody let me know, “look, man, I’m sorry I missed your game the other night, but I’ve been going 24/7 here for awhile and my wife and I both had birthdays and we always spend them together since Christmas and Thanksgiving are hard during the season. But, look, man, I really like your game, and I think we are a great match. I can make you better. Let’s sit down and talk some more..,” If I were the player or his high school coach, that would all make perfect sense to me and I wouldn’t be offended. In fact, I would appreciate that he’s caring to his family. There’s character there. Plus, he’s honest and straightforward. The IU head coaching job is a big freaking deal. He has to walk and chew gum at the same time. Recruits and high school coaches get that. They have to, it’s just too obvious. Respect the job. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted March 27, 2022 Report Share Posted March 27, 2022 Can't tell you the number of stories I read over the years where Coach K was crucified for missing on a kid out of Charlotte or Raleigh. Not sure how he's made it for 4 decades. Let's go Macro gang. Micro has us in the place we are in. 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steubenhoosier Posted March 27, 2022 Report Share Posted March 27, 2022 1 minute ago, BobSaccamanno said: Totally. If I were a player or his high school coach, and Woody let me know, “look, man, I’m sorry I missed your game the other night, but I’ve been going 24/7 here for awhile and my wife and I both had birthdays and we always spend them together since Christmas and Thanksgiving are hard during the season. But, look, man, I really like your game, and I think we are a great match. I can make you better. Let’s sit down and talk some more..,” If I were the player or his high school coach, that would all make perfect sense to me and I wouldn’t be offended. In fact, I would appreciate that he’s caring to his family. There’s character there. Plus, he’s honest and straightforward. The IU head coaching job is a big freaking deal. He has to walk and chew gum at the same time. Recruits and high school coaches get that. They have to, it’s just too obvious. Respect the job. Woodson has the props that many of the coaches he is recruiting against can only dream of. He’ll get in enough living rooms, and the right living rooms, to tell his story. Recruits that we want will start listening, and just as importantly, so will their parents 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted March 27, 2022 Report Share Posted March 27, 2022 (edited) 51 minutes ago, BobSaccamanno said: What happened that XB pissed off IU? Missed the visits? Did he piss off Fife or the whole staff? From what I was told... They weren't happy about the offering of Colvin when they said they weren't offering JRs. XB didn't make IU mad. Edited March 27, 2022 by btownqb 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steubenhoosier Posted March 27, 2022 Report Share Posted March 27, 2022 6 minutes ago, btownqb said: From what I was told... They weren't happy about the offering of Colvin when they said they weren't offering JRs. XB didn't make IU mad. So, what you are saying… The family sees the player as a potential pro/cash cow, thus a business decision, but the university is not allowed to make a decision that might be best for their business? Just want to make sure I have this straight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted March 27, 2022 Report Share Posted March 27, 2022 Just now, Steubenhoosier said: So, what you are saying… The family sees the player as a potential pro/cash cow, thus a business decision, but the university is not allowed to make a decision that might be best for their business? Just want to make sure I have this straight I am so confused 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hippopotamo Posted March 27, 2022 Report Share Posted March 27, 2022 1 minute ago, Steubenhoosier said: So, what you are saying… The family sees the player as a potential pro/cash cow, thus a business decision, but the university is not allowed to make a decision that might be best for their business? Just want to make sure I have this straight I think it’s more about sticking to your word and being consistent. If someone told me at my job they were only doing 2% raises this year and gave a coworker (especially someone who I thought was worse than me) a 7% raise I would be upset. I don’t see what’s so confusing about XB being upset in the scenario described above if it’s true. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU_Realist Posted March 28, 2022 Report Share Posted March 28, 2022 47 minutes ago, btownqb said: From what I was told... They weren't happy about the offering of Colvin when they said they weren't offering JRs. XB didn't make IU mad. Then why aren’t they mad a certain school didn’t take his commitment? The coaches are still in communication with him and they watched him at the state finals. This is getting hysterical. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted March 28, 2022 Report Share Posted March 28, 2022 11 minutes ago, IU_Realist said: Then why aren’t they mad a certain school didn’t take his commitment? The coaches are still in communication with him and they watched him at the state finals. This is getting hysterical. And I didn't say we weren't recruiting him. The absolute only thing I said... was I was told they weren't happy with how it was handled on Fife's end. You're asking me why another person, that I have never met is mad.... think about that. I honestly don't care. I have watched this kid very little. I've not once offered an opinion on his play, I do not know. He SEEMS to be someone we should recruit though, for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU_Realist Posted March 28, 2022 Report Share Posted March 28, 2022 19 minutes ago, btownqb said: And I didn't say we weren't recruiting him. The absolute only thing I said... was I was told they weren't happy with how it was handled on Fife's end. You're asking me why another person, that I have never met is mad.... think about that. I honestly don't care. I have watched this kid very little. I've not once offered an opinion on his play, I do not know. He SEEMS to be someone we should recruit though, for sure. All I am saying is that I don’t buy it. If he is pissed about a school offering another kid over him then I am sure he is pissed that another school offered and didn’t take his commitment. If that is the case he is heading out of state 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted March 28, 2022 Report Share Posted March 28, 2022 7 minutes ago, IU_Realist said: All I am saying is that I don’t buy it. If he is pissed about a school offering another kid over him then I am sure he is pissed that another school offered and didn’t take his commitment. If that is the case he is heading out of state Ok, but it was more then just "school offering another kid"... you did read that right? That's perfectly fine to not buy it, boss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted March 28, 2022 Report Share Posted March 28, 2022 For those more dialed in. Jason Delaney (Cathedral Coach) has never been our best ally. Besides TJD briefly....and of course Armaan leaving. Maybe this guy is looking for something else since the Trey Lyles stuff? Just a question. Would be curious for those that know far more than I to chime in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steubenhoosier Posted March 28, 2022 Report Share Posted March 28, 2022 I am as far away from this situation as can be, and still be in the state of Indiana. But from this viewpoint, it seems that there are a bunch of egos that think they deserve to be stroked. Between what is being said about the coach, and what is being said about the player/family/handlers, I wonder if we’d be better off looking elsewhere. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WRSMick55 Posted March 28, 2022 Report Share Posted March 28, 2022 https://www.insidethehall.com/2022/03/28/he-is-what-iu-is-looking-for-2023-indiana-target-xavier-booker-helps-cathedral-win-class-4a-state-title/ Article on Booker. As a Cathedral grad and IU fan sure would like to see him at IU. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post RoadToZion Posted March 28, 2022 Popular Post Report Share Posted March 28, 2022 https://www.insidethehall.com/2022/03/28/he-is-what-iu-is-looking-for-2023-indiana-target-xavier-booker-helps-cathedral-win-class-4a-state-title/ But but but Woody wasn't there to watch! Yawn..... Read the article for those who think it would be unfathomable for our Coach to miss the Indiana State Finals. 6 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purdue7 Posted March 28, 2022 Report Share Posted March 28, 2022 Looks like an IU lean for sure…and half the posts question his effort Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted March 28, 2022 Report Share Posted March 28, 2022 28 minutes ago, RoadToZion said: https://www.insidethehall.com/2022/03/28/he-is-what-iu-is-looking-for-2023-indiana-target-xavier-booker-helps-cathedral-win-class-4a-state-title/ But but but Woody wasn't there to watch! Yawn..... Read the article for those who think it would be unfathomable for our Coach to miss the Indiana State Finals. Those quotes are awesome. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billingsley99 Posted March 28, 2022 Report Share Posted March 28, 2022 I have thought he would be the next IU committ prior to Cupps even Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FKIM01 Posted March 28, 2022 Report Share Posted March 28, 2022 I really like what I see. The talent is there. If he's not top 40 by the time he graduates, he didn't try. 6'11" rim protector that shoots 36% from distance...Sign. Me. Up. Just needs a little more weight. Sounds like a certain center for the Pacers that no one seems to want to keep... ...and yeah...it's obvious he won't hold it against Woody for missing the state finals. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted March 28, 2022 Report Share Posted March 28, 2022 13 minutes ago, CoachSS said: As an Indiana supporter first-and-foremost (and a Cathedral graduate secondly) it would be nice to see him play for Michigan State. A host of reasons go into that. I'll just say... Sometimes with kids they end up loving something that isn't the mainstream. Xavier Booker has tremendous upside and could be a world-class basketball talent. That doesn't mean he is FORCED to love basketball every minute of the day. Sometimes kids have other interests. And, I think that's great. I hope he finds what he's looking for in life. Nice boy. I wish him all the best. Go Hoosiers. Why would it be nice seeing him at MSU 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
go_iu_bb Posted March 28, 2022 Report Share Posted March 28, 2022 10 minutes ago, IU Scott said: Why would it be nice seeing him at MSU My take away from that comment (combined with other comments over the years) is that Booker doesn't love basketball and doesn't commit a ton of time on improving. A lot things I've read make it sounds like he plays because he is gifted and expected to. Maybe CoachSS thinks that going with going to MSU he won't hurt IU when playing against them or by taking an IU scholarship and then being a flop. Or maybe that he thinks Izzo can motivate him while Woodson couldn't. IDK, it's kind of a confusing comment. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted March 28, 2022 Report Share Posted March 28, 2022 1 hour ago, CoachSS said: As an Indiana supporter first-and-foremost (and a Cathedral graduate secondly) it would be nice to see him play for Michigan State. A host of reasons go into that. I'll just say... Sometimes with kids they end up loving something that isn't the mainstream. Xavier Booker has tremendous upside and could be a world-class basketball talent. That doesn't mean he is FORCED to love basketball every minute of the day. Sometimes kids have other interests. And, I think that's great. I hope he finds what he's looking for in life. Nice boy. I wish him all the best. Go Hoosiers. Comment makes no sense. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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