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Again, bored by a slowing off season (after a spurt of initial activity), I made a list of my favorite player from each Big 10 school over the years (the Johnny come latelys I picked based on when they entered the Big 10, not historically)...and my favorite "Villains" (for various reasons...some are pretty easy to figure out)...

Pick apart as you like :) 

Illinois

Fav-Nick Weatherspoon

Villain-Alan Griffin

Iowa

Fav-Luka Garza

Villain-Acie Earl

Maryland

Fav-Melo Trimble

Villain-Jalen Smith

Michigan

Fav-Gary Grant

Villain-Antoine Joubert

Michigan State

Fav-Draymond Green

Villain-Magic Johnson

Minnesota

Fav-Mychael Thompson

Villain-Corky Taylor

Nebraska

Fav-Shavon Shields

Villain-Teddy Allen

Northwestern

Fav-Shon Morris

Villain-Mohamed Hachad

Ohio State

Fav-Jay Burson

Villain-Allan Hornyak

Penn State

Fav-John Harrar

Villain-Mike Watkins

Purdue

Fav-Jerry Sichting

Villain-Kyle Macy

Rutgers

Fav-Myles Johnson

Villain-Geo Baker

Wisconsin

Fav-Devin Harris

Villain-Brad Davison

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Villains--

Iowa Jess Settles

Purdue take your pick of Brian Cardinal or Chris Kramer

Minnesota--the whole lot of them who attacked Rudy Tomjonavich

Michigan--could name the entire Fab 5 but will go with Jalen Rose

Favorites--

Wisconsin--Michael Finley

Iowa--BJ Armstrong

Michigan State--Darnell Valentine

Michigan--Austin Hatch

Ohio State--John Havlicek

Illinois-Ayo Dosunmu

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3 minutes ago, Steubenhoosier said:

Minnesota--the whole lot of them who attacked Rudy Tomjonavich

That was OSU's Luke Witte they attacked (and Corky Taylor was the one who kneed Witte in the nuts)...Rudy T ran into Kermit Washington's fist in the NBA...

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llinois

Villain-Lucus Johnson 

Iowa

Villain- jaaks 

Maryland

Villain-Juan Dixon...

Michigan

Villain- Mitch McGrary

Michigan State

Villain- Draymond green 

Minnesota

Villain- Hoffarber

Nebraska

Villain-Teddy Allen

Ohio State

Villain- Craft. By far... not even close.

Penn State

Villain- DJ newbill 

Purdue

Villain- ugh..Kramer probably  

Wisconsin

Villain-Brad Davison

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7 hours ago, IUFLA said:

Again, bored by a slowing off season (after a spurt of initial activity), I made a list of my favorite player from each Big 10 school over the years (the Johnny come latelys I picked based on when they entered the Big 10, not historically)...and my favorite "Villains" (for various reasons...some are pretty easy to figure out)...

Pick apart as you like :) 

Illinois

Fav-Nick Weatherspoon

Villain-Alan Griffin

Iowa

Fav-Luka Garza

Villain-Acie Earl

Maryland

Fav-Melo Trimble

Villain-Jalen Smith

Michigan

Fav-Gary Grant

Villain-Antoine Joubert

Michigan State

Fav-Draymond Green

Villain-Magic Johnson

Minnesota

Fav-Mychael Thompson

Villain-Corky Taylor

Nebraska

Fav-Shavon Shields

Villain-Teddy Allen

Northwestern

Fav-Shon Morris

Villain-Mohamed Hachad

Ohio State

Fav-Jay Burson

Villain-Allan Hornyak

Penn State

Fav-John Harrar

Villain-Mike Watkins

Purdue

Fav-Jerry Sichting

Villain-Kyle Macy

Rutgers

Fav-Myles Johnson

Villain-Geo Baker

Wisconsin

Fav-Devin Harris

Villain-Brad Davison

How could Magic Johnson be a villain?  You have to appreciate greatness!  Favorite ever Buckeye has to be Bob Knight!  Others can be discussed.  As for IU, my favorite will always be Jimmy Rayl.  If i have to pick a least favorite it would be Larry Bird, for leaving (yes, I know that's greatness also.).

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Fun topic. My answers are pretty simple. 

Villains-Mostly fan bases like Illinois, Purdue...and in last 20 years Sparty/Sconny. I have a bigger problem with coaches than players though for a variety of reasons. Henson, Weber, Davis, Raveling, Keady, Painter, Izzo, Williams,  Ryan, Frieder, Fisher.....the rest either I don't care enough about or blame our own ineptitude to making games vs Nebraska, Rutgers, Northwestern, Penn St painful to watch some years.

I've got plenty of hatred built up over the years but again I blame IU for making the last 20 years impossible to watch at times. 

Other players I've liked from a distance. Sam Dekker, BJ Armstrong, Scott Skiles....Jay Burson and in a weird way Jalen Rose. I thought he was a punk at the time....but over the years I've changed my opinion on the guy. 

 

 

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2 hours ago, Hoosierfan1215 said:

llinois

Villain-Lucus Johnson 

Iowa

Villain- jaaks 

Maryland

Villain-Juan Dixon...

Michigan

Villain- Mitch McGrary

Michigan State

Villain- Draymond green 

Minnesota

Villain- Hoffarber

Nebraska

Villain-Teddy Allen

Ohio State

Villain- Craft. By far... not even close.

Penn State

Villain- DJ newbill 

Purdue

Villain- ugh..Kramer probably  

Wisconsin

Villain-Brad Davison

Surprised Craft wasn’t mentioned earlier. Perfect Villain that you love to hate, but want him on your team. 

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6 hours ago, IUguy said:

How could Magic Johnson be a villain?  You have to appreciate greatness!  Favorite ever Buckeye has to be Bob Knight!  Others can be discussed.  As for IU, my favorite will always be Jimmy Rayl.  If i have to pick a least favorite it would be Larry Bird, for leaving (yes, I know that's greatness also.).

I wish I could have seen Rayl play.  I wish they had good video from that era. 

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15 minutes ago, IowaHoosierFan said:

2 Villains come to mind.  Craft from OSU and Recker from Iowa for being a traitor.

 

Recker was a kid I totally overestimated.  He never reached his potential because he wasn’t willing to be coached hard.  He left a lot of meat on the bones for his career.  6’6 with a good skill set.  He was happy to play at a certain plateau.  Good villain because he was billed as an IU type of  player and he was anything but that. 
 

The will to win is not nearly as important as the will to prepare to win.Everyone wants to win but not everyone wants to prepare to win. preparing to win is where the determination that you will win, is made. Once the game or test or project is underway, it is too late to prepare to win. The actual game, test or projetc is just the end of a long process of getting ready, in which the outcome was really determined. So if you want to win, you must want to prepare to win. Once you prepare to win, winning is almost anti climatic." - Bobby Knight
Bobby Knight
 
I don’t know that the quote could be any more appropriate than it was for Recker.  
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Man, I remember being so excited about Recker, that whole few years seemed to wreck us between him, Reed, Collier, etc etc etc. 

 Often I’ve wondered if Coach had bent a tad bit, what could he have accomplished. In hindsight we’ve bent so much in every aspect of life, maybe digging in your heels is the proper move. Who knows 

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On 5/12/2021 at 6:08 PM, Hoosierfan1215 said:

llinois

Villain-Lucus Johnson 

Iowa

Villain- jaaks 

Maryland

Villain-Juan Dixon...

Michigan

Villain- Mitch McGrary

Michigan State

Villain- Draymond green 

Minnesota

Villain- Hoffarber

Nebraska

Villain-Teddy Allen

Ohio State

Villain- Craft. By far... not even close.

Penn State

Villain- DJ newbill 

Purdue

Villain- ugh..Kramer probably  

Wisconsin

Villain-Brad Davison

I was going to see if someone was going to mention Craft.

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Anybody remember "The Twin Midgets" that were Troy Taylor and Ron Stokes from tOSU?  Both were like 5-9, although with the afro Taylor went 6-7, and pesky mofos.  I hated those two with a passion.  But they were quite the dynamic duo for the Bucks as both finished their careers with over 1,200 pts.  And with that said I still dislike them with a passion.

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5 minutes ago, rico said:

Anybody remember "The Twin Midgets" that were Troy Taylor and Ron Stokes from tOSU?  Both were like 5-9, although with the afro Taylor went 6-7, and pesky mofos.  I hated those two with a passion.  But they were quite the dynamic duo for the Bucks as both finished their careers with over 1,200 pts.  And with that said I still dislike them with a passion.

Yeah, I remember them...early 80s, right? 

They were pesky, but not nearly as annoying as Allan Hornyak in the early 70s...

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