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I never understood the Woodson Hire? Maybe a way to appease the has to be an IU guy crowd and the PC crowd? Good guy bad hire. 

5 minutes ago, IU Scott said:

Beard as a coach would be good but not his baggage

His baggage was cleared and found fraudulent. His wife was a cheating hoe. He would be a great hire! 

Coach has completely lost this team. They are playing like this can’t end quick enough so I can get the hell out of here.  They all need to go. New coach new players. 

6 hours ago, IUFLA said:

And I'll say this...

The mods here all the time stress to debate respectfully... 

@dgambill if you think phrases like "no IQ"or any statement that mentions "stupidity" is respectful in any context then you and I have different opinions on what respect actually means... 

respect is earned. And right now there are no coaches and players earning it. 

The coaching and the product on the floor is just piss poor! 

Just now, NCHoosier32 said:

at least they had an excuse.  the talent wasn't there. 

You can think what you want. Talent equals skills. I don’t see much of that on the court. 

3 minutes ago, NCHoosier32 said:

at home to an unranked team

Again

2 minutes ago, NCHoosier32 said:

i honestly know people who think Cheaney should be our next head coach.  SMH

Hell no

If Woodson was any kind of coach he would have lost his fricking mind early in this game with both the officials and his team. 

If I see Walsh up clapping one more time for a bad play I will smash the tv. 

It’s so bad. The Northwestern bench is louder than the entire assembly hall. 

This so called offense sucks. We have no point guard who can create. Off for eight days and horrible defense. Our so called athletes getting schooled by slow white guys. Maybe we need more non athletes? Something has to change. 

IU is a once proud elite blue blood program hijacked and destroyed from within. Now part of the PC global elite club. You can see it everywhere you look. Maybe with our new president it changes. Time will tell.  Just about everything thing the program has done in the last twenty years has been self destructive. I liked Woodson as a player. But his recruiting and coaching methods makes no sense at most times. 

4 minutes ago, IUFLA said:

 

Why are they planning to be there? To see another loss? Laughable. How much are they getting paid for there time? 

We need a coach that’s a great high school recruiter so we would only need to one one or two portal players per year. IU should never have to rely on the portal to be an elite program.  We want to be elite again. Hire elite and the recruits will be elite. 

Steve pykle would be a great coach at IU. His teams are hard nosed and always play Defense. 

4 minutes ago, IUFLA said:

Woody is a good basketball coach whether some of you want to admit it or not... I posted a list of people who have publicly said it in another thread...Larry Brown was at the top of the list...

If you don't think so, that's fine... We can agree to disagree... But I can guarantee you the list of qualified people who think he is would be much longer than those who don't... 

He might know basketball. And I would say he does. But that doesn’t always translate to winning games. He has not recruited basketball players. Shooting skills, point guard skills. Defensive understanding. And here is the big one. Does he have solid fundamentals and was he coached with discipline in high school .  

On 2/5/2024 at 2:58 PM, MoyeCowbell said:

To answer the OP's main question(s), I believe there is way too much emphasis on IU's tradition and RMK's influence. (And let me be clear, I'm a fan and appreciate both!)

But for IU to get to where it wants to be, it has got to stop looking in the rear view mirror. It has got to stop being so deferential to the Ghosts of Program's Past and forge forward with a bold, new perspective. I believe there are way too many fans and people associated with the program that desperately want a feel-good narrative that has previous connections to the past, either through in-state affiliations or associations with the team from years ago.

The differentiation in my mind is this: a leader of the program shouldn't chase tradition, it should chase excellence. What McCracken and Knight built was a high level of excellence, and created and empowered amazing traditions along the way. I feel for way too long, we've witnessed the focus on the opposite.

Take Alabama football for a minute. Kalen DeBoer was brought in to replace Nick Saban (and hopefully attain his successes), but not to be Nick Saban. DeBoer has been brought it because of who he is and what he wants to do; he's been given the platform to be himself and lead in the ways that fits his objectives. The minute he has to be like Bear Bryant and Saban in their style (ie tradition) is the moment he's doomed. His only metric is excellence.

And that should be the only one for IU as well.

I couldn’t agree more. I don’t care if they have IU ties or not. I just know there are certain coaches that would make IU a perineal power again. With little or no effort recruiting. Even with the NIL money and the portal in play. IU is basketball! Hire the right coach and we’re back on top! It’s that simple. To the Admin. Just get the hell out of the way.

49 minutes ago, NCHoosier32 said:

i don't disagree with this thread at all, but couldn't this also be funneled to the Fire Mike Woodson thread?

No this about the system in place at IU not just Woodson.

Someone please explain. We don’t recruit a shooter for seven years running now. We don’t fill a scholarship in the portal era? We hire a coach with no college experience? We have a coach that tells his players it’s ok to be good again?  Somebody ask Dolson what the frick is going on? I mean it’s program suicide. Why? 

Walsh and Woodson = doom dumb idiots 

I don’t care hurt not hurt. Put Mk in and take Renu out

Just now, Dawg Bawls said:

Welll...breaks are the problem...

We sucked with ware and we will suck without him. 

Horrible basketball. No offense no defense. Lack of discipline. Can’t shoot  lack of coaching. No brains no gains. 

Just now, MoyeCowbell said:

Did we win yet???

If we lose pack it in until the big tournament