rico Posted December 10, 2023 Report Share Posted December 10, 2023 11 hours ago, Seeking6 said: I'll take Matt Chapman in our infield and go find 2 starters....along with another bat. All of that would cost less than $300M. Better for us. I think Jonathan India would be a good fit for the Cubbies. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted December 10, 2023 Report Share Posted December 10, 2023 10 hours ago, IU Scott said: The Reds has actually spent some money so far but I don't really get signing another infielder for 3/45. Right now we have signed two really good relievers and one can start as well. Â Signing Candelario made zero sense to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted December 10, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2023 34 minutes ago, rico said: Signing Candelario made zero sense to me. Somebody (or 2) other than De La Cruz is getting traded for pitching.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted December 10, 2023 Report Share Posted December 10, 2023 Just now, 5fouls said: Somebody (or 2) other than De La Cruz is getting traded for pitching.  Trade Candelario for pitching. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FritzIam4IU Posted December 10, 2023 Report Share Posted December 10, 2023 1 hour ago, rico said: I think Jonathan India would be a good fit for the Cubbies. I need to brush up on the hot stove. With all the Ohtani stuff dominating the news, and Bellinger/Yamamoto to a much lesser extent, I honestly can't even remember who all is available or supposedly available via trades. I hope Cubs have something in the works. Rhys Hoskins, Glasnow, Alonso, and Chapman are the last names I remember hearing as possible signings/trades. I hope they roll with Crow-Armstrong in center instead of overpaying for Bellinger. I like Bellinger, but some of the numbers being thrown around with him seem like way to much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted December 10, 2023 Report Share Posted December 10, 2023 7 minutes ago, FritzIam4IU said: I need to brush up on the hot stove. With all the Ohtani stuff dominating the news, and Bellinger/Yamamoto to a much lesser extent, I honestly can't even remember who all is available or supposedly available via trades. I hope Cubs have something in the works. Rhys Hoskins, Glasnow, Alonso, and Chapman are the last names I remember hearing as possible signings/trades. I hope they roll with Crow-Armstrong in center instead of overpaying for Bellinger. I like Bellinger, but some of the numbers being thrown around with him seem like way to much. Here you go: https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FritzIam4IU Posted December 10, 2023 Report Share Posted December 10, 2023 3 minutes ago, rico said: Here you go: https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/ That is my go to site ha. I just haven't been keeping up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted December 10, 2023 Report Share Posted December 10, 2023 4 minutes ago, FritzIam4IU said: That is my go to site ha. I just haven't been keeping up. https://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted December 12, 2023 Report Share Posted December 12, 2023 This is beautiful stuff. Ohtani and Dodgers deferring $680M of the $700M until 2034. They can still go get players today and pay Ohtani later. For Ohtani if he doesn't live in California in 2034 he would save 13.4% on $680M. Not a bad move  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proud2BAHoosier Posted December 12, 2023 Report Share Posted December 12, 2023 3 hours ago, Seeking6 said: This is beautiful stuff. Ohtani and Dodgers deferring $680M of the $700M until 2034. They can still go get players today and pay Ohtani later. For Ohtani if he doesn't live in California in 2034 he would save 13.4% on $680M. Not a bad move  Something is fishy... Be interesting to see if MLB let's this happen.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted December 12, 2023 Report Share Posted December 12, 2023 10 hours ago, Proud2BAHoosier said: Something is fishy... Be interesting to see if MLB let's this happen.... Nothing is fishy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted December 12, 2023 Report Share Posted December 12, 2023 10 hours ago, Proud2BAHoosier said: Something is fishy... Be interesting to see if MLB let's this happen.... Just a pretty good use of the loophole that's in the CBA. Salary deferral has been around forever but nothing like this. My guess is Ohtani just didn't change the game because of his number but he and his team changed plenty of future contract negotiations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted December 12, 2023 Report Share Posted December 12, 2023 3 hours ago, Seeking6 said: Just a pretty good use of the loophole that's in the CBA. Salary deferral has been around forever but nothing like this. My guess is Ohtani just didn't change the game because of his number but he and his team changed plenty of future contract negotiations. I heard where Ohtani wanted all of it deferred, but the CBA says you got to get paid something annually.  1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landrus13 Posted December 12, 2023 Report Share Posted December 12, 2023 MLB can't do anything about it. The current CBA says there is no limit how much money they can defer. I guarantee they address that in the next CBA though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naturalhoosier Posted December 12, 2023 Report Share Posted December 12, 2023 14 hours ago, Proud2BAHoosier said: Something is fishy... Be interesting to see if MLB let's this happen.... Quite genius actually. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted December 12, 2023 Report Share Posted December 12, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Naturalhoosier said: Quite genius actually. Did some digging and what I came up with is this. The CBA requires they (Dodgers) fund present day value of contract within 2 years of the money he earns each year. But they can take the $ and invest however they see fit. Since interest rates are so high now they could essentially get themselves into investments that pay well in a falling interest rate economy (if and when that eventually happens) i.e. bonds. So rough numbers. They park $44M in an account today. It pays 5% they are earning $2.2M each year on the money over life of contract compounded. Not a major amount of change but using this loophole the team could save $30-$40M off the top number....besides having one of the best players in baseball on their payroll for 10 years. This is very similar to what the Mets did back in the day with Bobby Bonilla with one catch. What they invested the $ in was a Ponzi scheme by our old buddy Bernie Madoff. Edited December 12, 2023 by Seeking6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steubenhoosier Posted December 12, 2023 Report Share Posted December 12, 2023 For all you Cub fans on here. Â 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted December 21, 2023 Report Share Posted December 21, 2023 5'-8" and a 167 lbs.? https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2023/12/padres-reportedly-close-to-signing-yuki-matsui.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proud2BAHoosier Posted December 22, 2023 Report Share Posted December 22, 2023 (edited) Son of a*itch!!! Dodgers sign Yamamoto to a $325 million dollar, 12 year deal!!  First it was Ohtani and his multi-million dollar deferred deal, then Tyler Glasnow, and now Yamamoto?? Yanks had been in on this kid for over a year, talk about a gut punch... Nice to see the Yankees are no longer the Evil Empire. See you guys later, I'm going to Yankee fan group therapy... Edited December 22, 2023 by Proud2BAHoosier 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted December 22, 2023 Report Share Posted December 22, 2023 7 hours ago, Proud2BAHoosier said: Son of a*itch!!! Dodgers sign Yamamoto to a $325 million dollar, 12 year deal!!  First it was Ohtani and his multi-million dollar deferred deal, then Tyler Glasnow, and now Yamamoto?? Yanks had been in on this kid for over a year, talk about a gut punch... Nice to see the Yankees are no longer the Evil Empire. See you guys later, I'm going to Yankee fan group therapy... Suck it up there Soto. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ledies22 Posted December 22, 2023 Report Share Posted December 22, 2023 I haven't been following ANY MLB offseason. @Seeking6 give me some good news! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted December 22, 2023 Report Share Posted December 22, 2023 10 minutes ago, ledies22 said: I haven't been following ANY MLB offseason. @Seeking6 give me some good news! The last time we heard from Jed was when we signed Swanson last year. Otherwise I got nada! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted December 23, 2023 Report Share Posted December 23, 2023 23 hours ago, Seeking6 said: The last time we heard from Jed was when we signed Swanson last year. Otherwise I got nada! The last time I heard from Jed he was shootin' at some food... I will show myself out. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted December 23, 2023 Report Share Posted December 23, 2023 16 minutes ago, rico said: The last time I heard from Jed he was shootin' at some food... I will show myself out. "and up through the ground came a washed up middle infielder and a reliever with a sore arm"? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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