IUwins0708 Posted March 23, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2022 Anyone know how to go back and listen to the IU portion of JMV?? It only takes me to the live part. Sorry I hate technology because I’m clueless on it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2345 Posted March 23, 2022 Report Share Posted March 23, 2022 I’m starting to step off the cliff and understand the move. I still have concerns but we’ll see how things play out. I just feel like it’s never ending stupidity with this program. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted March 23, 2022 Report Share Posted March 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, BobSaccamanno said: No doubt Rabby talks out of his ass a lot. His favorite move is to connect dots from his imagination and start throwing things out as rumors. That's why he is wrong so often. The only way he can truly know is if Fife tells him directly. I bet Fife comes on DD or JMV and gives an explanation. He will be professional but will probably give some candor too. I bet he is classy though. He is smart enough to play it that way. He said that he was friends with Fife and Fife was the one that told him he got reprimanded by the athletic department for those tweets. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hippopotamo Posted March 23, 2022 Report Share Posted March 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, IUwins0708 said: Anyone know how to go back and listen to the IU portion of JMV?? It only takes me to the live part. Sorry I hate technology because I’m clueless on it If you open in the YouTube app you can scroll back to the beginning. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Robby Posted March 23, 2022 Report Share Posted March 23, 2022 Correct me if I'm wrong...didn't Dolson make Woody take Fife on? If that is true, and if it didn't work out, as it appears to have not, then just a weird situation on a program faced with multiple years of bleh. I'm satisfied overall with this season, although there were many flaws throughout. Woody will fill it as he sees fit, and we'll all be salivating over waiting for November to arrive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierJax Posted March 23, 2022 Report Share Posted March 23, 2022 33 minutes ago, btownqb said: I don't think it was just Woodson that told Fife to leave. I guess we need to ask who else here? 🤔🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted March 23, 2022 Report Share Posted March 23, 2022 5 minutes ago, IUwins0708 said: Anyone know how to go back and listen to the IU portion of JMV?? It only takes me to the live part. Sorry I hate technology because I’m clueless on it Go to the 30 min mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2345 Posted March 23, 2022 Report Share Posted March 23, 2022 Sounds like Evansville is now interested in Fife. They’ve just got to get an AD first 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted March 23, 2022 Report Share Posted March 23, 2022 4 minutes ago, DC2345 said: I’m starting to step off the cliff and understand the move. I still have concerns but we’ll see how things play out. I just feel like it’s never ending stupidity with this program. Fair Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted March 23, 2022 Report Share Posted March 23, 2022 Just now, DC2345 said: Sounds like Evansville is now interested in Fife. They’ve just got to get an AD first Seems like a good hire for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobSaccamanno Posted March 23, 2022 Report Share Posted March 23, 2022 Just now, Coach Robby said: Correct me if I'm wrong...didn't Dolson make Woody take Fife on? If that is true, and if it didn't work out, as it appears to have not, then just a weird situation on a program faced with multiple years of bleh. I'm satisfied overall with this season, although there were many flaws throughout. Woody will fill it as he sees fit, and we'll all be salivating over waiting for November to arrive Maybe. But it also might have been, Dolson: "Mike, we want to offer you the job, but we are concerned about your experience in college. To solve that concern, we will bring in Thad Matta and Dane Fife to support you. Are you ok with that?'" Mike: "Hell yeah, where do I sign?" Mike could have told Dolson to pound sand. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted March 23, 2022 Report Share Posted March 23, 2022 9 minutes ago, DC2345 said: I’m starting to step off the cliff and understand the move. I still have concerns but we’ll see how things play out. I just feel like it’s never ending stupidity with this program. Or just the first move in a series of moves that we now have a true steward of IU Basketball again....a guy that is old school but knows when something isn't right. Willing to make the tough call. I'm more and more comfortable with this decision....but that doesn't mean I don't wish Dane Fife well too. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Steubenhoosier Posted March 23, 2022 Popular Post Report Share Posted March 23, 2022 One, being an ex-IU player should never enter into the evaluation of whether someone is doing there job right, or whether someone should be considered a good candidate for a position. This was not IU eating their own. This was not IU treating an ex-player like poop. This was a year end employee evaluation that didn’t result in the employee being retained. Two, any good leader has a vision for where he wants his organization to go. Any good leader will surround himself with people that share that same vision and agree on the steps and methods to make that vision a reality. It’s not surrounding oneself with “yes men.” It’s developing a staff you trust, and letting them do their job to get to the goal. If CMW didn’t trust Dane, he couldn’t keep him on staff. If there was a rift, the longer it festered, the worse things would have gotten. Three, having a leader make a decision that he knows is going to be unpopular shows an immense amount of backbone. That’s certainly one trait I want to see from a leader. Finally, these “fan forums” provide us a chance to do a lot of things, including making assumptions when we don’t have nearly all the facts as to what really happened. Fun to read everyone’s opinions, but none of us are inside the room to make statements with any amount of certainty. Thanks for the entertainment 17 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierdave Posted March 23, 2022 Report Share Posted March 23, 2022 1 hour ago, 94Bulldog said: Why do we always have to have drama…. But don’t worry, it’s the fan base that’s the problem, remember? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbmhoosier Posted March 23, 2022 Report Share Posted March 23, 2022 15 minutes ago, HoosierJax said: I guess we need to ask who else here? 🤔🙄 Buckner? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobSaccamanno Posted March 23, 2022 Report Share Posted March 23, 2022 1 minute ago, Steubenhoosier said: One, being an ex-IU player should never enter into the evaluation of whether someone is doing there job right, or whether someone should be considered a good candidate for a position. This was not IU eating their own. This was not IU treating an ex-player like poop. This was a year end employee evaluation that didn’t result in the employee being retained. Two, any good leader has a vision for where he wants his organization to go. Any good leader will surround himself with people that share that same vision and agree on the steps and methods to make that vision a reality. It’s not surrounding oneself with “yes men.” It’s developing a staff you trust, and letting them do their job to get to the goal. If CMW didn’t trust Dane, he couldn’t keep him on staff. If there was a rift, the longer it festered, the worse things would have gotten. Three, having a leader make a decision that he knows is going to be unpopular shows an immense amount of backbone. That’s certainly one trait I want to see from a leader. Finally, these “fan forums” provide us a chance to do a lot of things, including making assumptions when we don’t have nearly all the facts as to what really happened. Fun to read everyone’s opinions, but none of us are inside the room to make statements with any amount of certainty. Thanks for the entertainment Fair enough. But we do know that he fired a good coach. We don't need conjecture. He fired a talented guy. Like I said, no one will care if he wins big and he knocks it off with further replacements. Maybe he hires a great recruiter and they stay together for 5 years and he wins 115 games in 5 years. Then, this whole discussion will be silly. It doesn't matter what any of us say until patterns are established. Woody should stabilize his staff. If not, it will clearly be him and not the assistants. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steubenhoosier Posted March 23, 2022 Report Share Posted March 23, 2022 5 minutes ago, BobSaccamanno said: Fair enough. But we do know that he fired a good coach. We don't need conjecture. He fired a talented guy. Like I said, no one will care if he wins big and he knocks it off with further replacements. Maybe he hires a great recruiter and they stay together for 5 years and he wins 115 games in 5 years. Then, this whole discussion will be silly. It doesn't matter what any of us say until patterns are established. Woody should stabilize his staff. If not, it will clearly be him and not the assistants. Agree completely, and I can’t imagine that he didn’t have a plan in mind prior to any conversation with Dane. Mike has been in this long enough to know that. He has earned the respect of players who played at the highest level in the world. You don’t get to that point in your profession by not having a plan or vision. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post IUwins0708 Posted March 23, 2022 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted March 23, 2022 Carmelo Anthony retires and joins Mike Woodsons staff at IU 10 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobSaccamanno Posted March 23, 2022 Report Share Posted March 23, 2022 Just now, Steubenhoosier said: Agree completely, and I can’t imagine that he didn’t have a plan in mind prior to any conversation with Dane. Mike has been in this long enough to know that. He has earned the respect of players who played at the highest level in the world. You don’t get to that point in your profession by not having a plan or vision. Based on some of the recruits who we are in on, I like our chances. I think Ya and Hunter look good on the trail and Woody seems able to close. Then you win and it becomes "Fife, Schmife," lol. I am bullish on these prospects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierfan1901 Posted March 23, 2022 Report Share Posted March 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, IUwins0708 said: Carmelo Anthony retires and joins Mike Woodsons staff at IU I’m down 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Hoopsier Posted March 23, 2022 Report Share Posted March 23, 2022 38 minutes ago, BobSaccamanno said: I meant to make it work when both parties have a lot to gain. He is firing a talented coach because he couldn't get along with him. I don't buy that as good leadership. I have no problem being the face of fans dissatisfied with this outcome. Let Woody enjoy some blowback. Like I said, go 26-8 and no one will remember. Go 20-13 and fire another assistant next year and it starts looking like a cluster. It's never one thing that does you in. I get ya and I doubt there is anyone satisfied with this outcome. We really don't know enough facts yet to say this was All Woody, or All Dane, or even a mix of both. Who knows yet, we don't. I do know things have a way of working out, but then again this is IU so WTFK's? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierDPU95 Posted March 23, 2022 Report Share Posted March 23, 2022 5 minutes ago, Steubenhoosier said: One, being an ex-IU player should never enter into the evaluation of whether someone is doing there job right, or whether someone should be considered a good candidate for a position. This was not IU eating their own. This was not IU treating an ex-player like poop. This was a year end employee evaluation that didn’t result in the employee being retained. Two, any good leader has a vision for where he wants his organization to go. Any good leader will surround himself with people that share that same vision and agree on the steps and methods to make that vision a reality. It’s not surrounding oneself with “yes men.” It’s developing a staff you trust, and letting them do their job to get to the goal. If CMW didn’t trust Dane, he couldn’t keep him on staff. If there was a rift, the longer it festered, the worse things would have gotten. Three, having a leader make a decision that he knows is going to be unpopular shows an immense amount of backbone. That’s certainly one trait I want to see from a leader. Finally, these “fan forums” provide us a chance to do a lot of things, including making assumptions when we don’t have nearly all the facts as to what really happened. Fun to read everyone’s opinions, but none of us are inside the room to make statements with any amount of certainty. Thanks for the entertainment And one of the worst things a leader can do is hold on to someone you know isn't the right person for the job (anyone here think the IU administration has ever held on to head coaches for too long? 🙃) In my experience, that never turns out well. Fife's credentials are solid for sure but something didn't fit so a change was made. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobSaccamanno Posted March 23, 2022 Report Share Posted March 23, 2022 1 minute ago, Joe_Hoopsier said: I get ya and I doubt there is anyone satisfied with this outcome. We really don't know enough facts yet to say this was All Woody, or All Dane, or even a mix of both. Who knows yet, we don't. I do know things have a way of working out, but then again this is IU so WTFK's? Agree. I will stop beating the dead horse. I am WAY over caffeinated for real. Hope I didn't offend anyone. I do think there are others in the IU sphere who might agree with me, so I am giving that view. We can all agree, let's get a good assistant, let him recruit at a high level, and let's win. Reneau, Little, Sparks, on and on. We are on some good players. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Hoopsier Posted March 23, 2022 Report Share Posted March 23, 2022 WWW as our new recruiting Assistant! 😉 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OGIUAndy Posted March 23, 2022 Report Share Posted March 23, 2022 Eating all my own words here. I am shocked to say the least. Not a good look here at all for me or Woody. I hope he knows what he's doing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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