IUFLA Posted May 5, 2022 Author Report Share Posted May 5, 2022 6 minutes ago, tdhoosier said: to get even further off topic, who names their sons Seth and Steph? C'mon Dell! Dell's full name is Wardell. I use to have a Wardell on my staff. I always told him I'd put him in a 21st century "Leave it to Beaver" as Wardell Cleaver 😁 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted May 5, 2022 Report Share Posted May 5, 2022 Just now, IUFLA said: Dell's full name is Wardell. I use to have a Wardell on my staff. I always told him I'd put him in a 21st century "Leave it to Beaver" as Wardell Cleaver 😁 Steph's real first name is Wardell also. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawg Bawls Posted May 5, 2022 Report Share Posted May 5, 2022 13 hours ago, Zlinedavid said: Never met 5fouls’ ex #4/6, have you? BURN...!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted May 5, 2022 Report Share Posted May 5, 2022 3 hours ago, 13th&Jackson said: Don’t forget block/charge Joey Crawford right??! Like the TV Teddy of the nba lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ButlerHoosier Posted May 5, 2022 Report Share Posted May 5, 2022 3 hours ago, 13th&Jackson said: Don’t forget block/charge I love the look back like I hope they saw my wonderful call cause I have been practicing it all week! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jv1972iu Posted May 5, 2022 Report Share Posted May 5, 2022 1 hour ago, tdhoosier said: to get even further off topic, who names their sons Seth and Steph? C'mon Dell! George Foreman says "Hi". 😂 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted May 5, 2022 Report Share Posted May 5, 2022 2 hours ago, KoB2011 said: My perception is a lot of basketball fans think things are travels/carries/palming when they aren't, There's obviously times those are missed, but I hear a lot of complaints about it when it isn't there, too. Perhaps…but basically the nba has just allowed it so much it is too deeply part of the game to take out now. It is what it is. In my opinion carrying is like holding in the NFL…except even called less. It is only called on the most eggregious circumstances when a player or team gets an obvious or too big an advantage. By the letter of the law it happens on every possession at some point. Here is an officials video (so from the experts) and if you don’t think these moves don’t happen on almost every possession then I don’t know what to tell you. That said it’s part of the game now…and the rule is basically null and void…like many other rules that basically get taken out of the game. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted May 5, 2022 Report Share Posted May 5, 2022 8 minutes ago, dgambill said: Joey Crawford right??! Like the TV Teddy of the nba lol. Joey Crawford is crazy! When I worked for the Celtics I would sometimes do the scorekeeping. I was doing the scorekeeping during that Celtics-Pacers series when Pierce was talking trash with Al Harrington and he hit that 3 at the end of the 3rd quarter in one of the games. Anyways, during one of the games in that series a Celtic hit a shot that was called a 2 but the Celtics owner (essentially my boss) thought it was a 3. During a timeout he comes over and is yelling at me to change it to a 3. Joey Crawford sees this and comes over and starts yelling at me at the same time asking "who the F is this guy telling you to change the score? This is my F'ing game and I make the rules!" A bit of an uncomfortable spot for me 🤣. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iuswingman Posted May 5, 2022 Report Share Posted May 5, 2022 2 hours ago, KoB2011 said: My perception is a lot of basketball fans think things are travels/carries/palming when they aren't, There's obviously times those are missed, but I hear a lot of complaints about it when it isn't there, too. I'm sure that happens but not nearly as much as travels/carries/palming that goes uncalled. It's just become the norm because it's something that players are allowed to get away with more so than they used to be able to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted May 5, 2022 Report Share Posted May 5, 2022 3 hours ago, KoB2011 said: My perception is a lot of basketball fans think things are travels/carries/palming when they aren't, There's obviously times those are missed, but I hear a lot of complaints about it when it isn't there, too. Agree, especially when talking about the NBA. A lot of fans don't understand the "gather step" in the NBA. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobSaccamanno Posted May 5, 2022 Report Share Posted May 5, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, 13th&Jackson said: Don’t forget block/charge Nothing makes me happier than an official or ump who thinks I am watching for him. DWS Edited May 5, 2022 by BobSaccamanno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted May 5, 2022 Report Share Posted May 5, 2022 Looks like Butler has picked up a couple of bigs in the last week. 6'10" Jalen Thomas from Georgia St and 6'11" Manny Bates from NC State. Bates averaged 10 and 6 as a soph but only played 1 minute this past year due to a shoulder injury. Now back to your NBA talk. Ugh. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted May 5, 2022 Report Share Posted May 5, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, dgambill said: Perhaps…but basically the nba has just allowed it so much it is too deeply part of the game to take out now. It is what it is. In my opinion carrying is like holding in the NFL…except even called less. It is only called on the most eggregious circumstances when a player or team gets an obvious or too big an advantage. By the letter of the law it happens on every possession at some point. Here is an officials video (so from the experts) and if you don’t think these moves don’t happen on almost every possession then I don’t know what to tell you. That said it’s part of the game now…and the rule is basically null and void…like many other rules that basically get taken out of the game. I think the problem is that what use to be called travel or palming is just a normal move today. To me the Euro step and a jump stop is actually a travel if you call it by the actual rules. A jump stop is actually having both feet off the ground and coming back down with the ball which is a travel. Edited May 5, 2022 by IU Scott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted May 5, 2022 Author Report Share Posted May 5, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, 13th&Jackson said: Don’t forget block/charge I saw Joey do that same move at an Indianapolis club called "Dick's Harem House" in the 70s once... Edited May 5, 2022 by IUFLA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted May 5, 2022 Report Share Posted May 5, 2022 1 minute ago, IU Scott said: I think the problem is that what use to be called travel or palming is just a normal move today. To me the Euro step and a jump stop is actually a travel if you call it by the actual rules. A jump stop is actually having both feet off the ground and coming back down with the ball which is a travel. If a Euro step is a travel, then every single lay up you have ever shot is a travel. Any lay up anyone has ever shot... is a travel. There isn't an extra step in a euro step compared to a regular layup. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted May 5, 2022 Report Share Posted May 5, 2022 1 minute ago, btownqb said: If a Euro step is a travel, then every single lay up you have ever shot is a travel. Any lay up anyone has ever shot... is a travel. There isn't an extra step in a euro step compared to a regular layup. I see a lot 3 steps on the Euro step Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawg Bawls Posted May 5, 2022 Report Share Posted May 5, 2022 6 minutes ago, IUFLA said: I saw Joey do that same move at an Indianapolis club called "Dick's Harem House" in the 70s once... Kinda resembles the clubs namesake... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted May 5, 2022 Report Share Posted May 5, 2022 10 minutes ago, IU Scott said: I see a lot 3 steps on the Euro step I bet you see more gather steps followed by a legal two step euro that you think is three steps than you do actual travels. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted May 5, 2022 Report Share Posted May 5, 2022 16 minutes ago, IU Scott said: I think the problem is that what use to be called travel or palming is just a normal move today. To me the Euro step and a jump stop is actually a travel if you call it by the actual rules. A jump stop is actually having both feet off the ground and coming back down with the ball which is a travel. Except they aren’t. And if you think that you don’t know modern basketball rules, which does explain a lot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted May 5, 2022 Report Share Posted May 5, 2022 1 hour ago, dgambill said: Perhaps…but basically the nba has just allowed it so much it is too deeply part of the game to take out now. It is what it is. In my opinion carrying is like holding in the NFL…except even called less. It is only called on the most eggregious circumstances when a player or team gets an obvious or too big an advantage. By the letter of the law it happens on every possession at some point. Here is an officials video (so from the experts) and if you don’t think these moves don’t happen on almost every possession then I don’t know what to tell you. That said it’s part of the game now…and the rule is basically null and void…like many other rules that basically get taken out of the game. This is a high school rule discussion you posted, what is the relevance? And I only made it through the first two examples but he’s wrong on the second one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluegrassIU Posted May 5, 2022 Report Share Posted May 5, 2022 Just now, KoB2011 said: Except they aren’t. And if you think that you don’t know modern basketball rules, which does explain a lot. Seems a bit harsh, why the daggers? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted May 5, 2022 Report Share Posted May 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, bluegrassIU said: Seems a bit harsh, why the daggers? Is it any harsher than the stuff he posts about people younger than him daily? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted May 5, 2022 Report Share Posted May 5, 2022 5 minutes ago, KoB2011 said: Except they aren’t. And if you think that you don’t know modern basketball rules, which does explain a lot. I understand stand them but that is where the disconnect comes because things we seen called for years are now just a normal move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted May 5, 2022 Report Share Posted May 5, 2022 19 minutes ago, IU Scott said: I see a lot 3 steps on the Euro step There isn't such a thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted May 5, 2022 Report Share Posted May 5, 2022 Also.. a spin move is not a charge. I appreciate officials starting to catch on to that one too! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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