IUFLA Posted November 29, 2023 Report Share Posted November 29, 2023 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Steubenhoosier said: And he bailed on IU as soon as a spot became available at his alma mater. Not comfortable with that history. Yeah, but Harbaugh isn't going anywhere anytime soon, and they already pretty much put Sherrone Moore at the front of his replacement line... And we have to face facts... Anyone that has success at IU is going to be subject to poaching from a lot of schools Edited November 29, 2023 by IUFLA 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fkfootball Posted November 29, 2023 Report Share Posted November 29, 2023 Frye would be the worst candidate. Ask OSU and UCLA fans what they ask of him. Michigan fans are scared to lose Hart. Speaks volumes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted November 29, 2023 Report Share Posted November 29, 2023 7 minutes ago, Steubenhoosier said: And he bailed on IU as soon as a spot became available at his alma mater. Not comfortable with that history. That's an interesting way to look at that. Mike had multiple opps to leave, but didn't leave IU until he had a chance to go back to his alma mater, I assume make more money, and coach at one of the T5 football programs in the country. There is no, absolutely no mark on his "character" or whatever else for making that decision. How's that different than Dane Fife? 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steubenhoosier Posted November 29, 2023 Report Share Posted November 29, 2023 2 minutes ago, btownqb said: That's an interesting way to look at that. Mike had multiple opps to leave, but didn't leave IU until he had a chance to go back to his alma mater, I assume make more money, and coach at one of the T5 football programs in the country. There is no, absolutely no mark on his "character" or whatever else for making that decision. How's that different than Dane Fife? Dane was not on our staff before leaving for MSU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted November 29, 2023 Report Share Posted November 29, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, Steubenhoosier said: Dane was not on our staff before leaving for MSU. Doesn't matter. Dane's also a dbag and Mike Hart isn't, so that would be why I'd prefer someone like Hart to coach here and not Dane Fife. But that is all an example. Mike Hart was 24-21 while on our staff with 2 bowl appearances in 4 years. Edited November 29, 2023 by btownqb 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drroogh Posted November 29, 2023 Report Share Posted November 29, 2023 12 minutes ago, Steubenhoosier said: And he bailed on IU as soon as a spot became available at his alma mater. Not comfortable with that history. There’s the old adage that goes something like this, if you train someone they may leave for something better however, if you don’t train them they might stay! 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13th&Jackson Posted November 29, 2023 Report Share Posted November 29, 2023 1 hour ago, HoosierFaithful said: It’s me. I am the coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted November 29, 2023 Report Share Posted November 29, 2023 Just now, Drroogh said: There’s the old adage that goes something like this, if you train someone they may leave for something better however, if you don’t train them they might stay! That is such a good quote.... I think the ending goes, "but even worse, what if you don't train them, and they stay" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierFan997 Posted November 29, 2023 Report Share Posted November 29, 2023 12 minutes ago, DC2345 said: Weaver just said he believe Herman has interviewed for the job. Lines up with what I heard 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victobmyboy Posted November 29, 2023 Report Share Posted November 29, 2023 17 minutes ago, Steubenhoosier said: And he bailed on IU as soon as a spot became available at his alma mater. Not comfortable with that history. Why wouldn’t he? I don’t blame him for going home. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steubenhoosier Posted November 29, 2023 Report Share Posted November 29, 2023 I have no qualms with Mike Hart, and certainly would not put him in the same conversation with Dane Fife, character wise. I believe he would make a good HC. I just wonder how quick he would be to jump at a better opportunity. We are trying to get away from the perception that IU is a stepping stone program. We are trying to build up the NIL coffers, the facility budget, the coaching salaries, to turn that perception around. Given Hart's history with IU, it does concern me that he would jump at the first chance. Maybe the other guys would too. However, they haven't shown that they will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted November 29, 2023 Report Share Posted November 29, 2023 1 minute ago, Steubenhoosier said: I have no qualms with Mike Hart, and certainly would not put him in the same conversation with Dane Fife, character wise. I believe he would make a good HC. I just wonder how quick he would be to jump at a better opportunity. We are trying to get away from the perception that IU is a stepping stone program. We are trying to build up the NIL coffers, the facility budget, the coaching salaries, to turn that perception around. Given Hart's history with IU, it does concern me that he would jump at the first chance. Maybe the other guys would too. However, they haven't shown that they will. I have no problem if Mike Hart is hired away, by Michigan, to be their HC. That's the only school MH has shown he'd leave IU for. IF MH is hired by UM to be their HC, at some point, that would mean he would have won big time at Indiana. UM isn't hiring him if he struggles at IU. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted November 29, 2023 Report Share Posted November 29, 2023 47 minutes ago, DC2345 said: I'm starting to like the idea of Frye. He's a former Hoosier that's been an OC at UCLA and an Associate Head Coach at Ohio State. He's already got alumni support and would help to keep IU from going through OL struggles that we've seen in the recent past. I am to the point where I will back whatever the decision is and hope it works out. My top choice is Candle but there is no guarantee that would work any better than say Hart or Frye 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted November 29, 2023 Report Share Posted November 29, 2023 6 minutes ago, Steubenhoosier said: I have no qualms with Mike Hart, and certainly would not put him in the same conversation with Dane Fife, character wise. I believe he would make a good HC. I just wonder how quick he would be to jump at a better opportunity. We are trying to get away from the perception that IU is a stepping stone program. We are trying to build up the NIL coffers, the facility budget, the coaching salaries, to turn that perception around. Given Hart's history with IU, it does concern me that he would jump at the first chance. Maybe the other guys would too. However, they haven't shown that they will. IU becoming a stepping stone program would be a big improvement and step up in the perception of the program. IU is not even at the level of a stepping stone program. Who was the last head coach to parlay the IU job into something better? I'm not advocating for Mike Hart, but any hire coming to IU and having enough success that larger programs are trying to poach the coach sounds like a massive win for IU Football to me. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted November 29, 2023 Report Share Posted November 29, 2023 3 minutes ago, BGleas said: IU becoming a stepping stone program would be a big improvement and step up in the perception of the program. IU is not even at the level of a stepping stone program. Who was the last head coach to parlay the IU job into something better? I'm not advocating for Mike Hart, but any hire coming to IU and having enough success that larger programs are trying to poach the coach sounds like a massive win for IU Football to me. Right now the IU job is known for being a career suicide, and never has been a stepping stone. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted November 29, 2023 Report Share Posted November 29, 2023 1 minute ago, IU Scott said: Right now the IU job is known for being a career suicide, and never has been a stepping stone. Agree. Becoming a 'stepping stone' program would be a great first step for IU Football. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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btownqb Posted November 29, 2023 Report Share Posted November 29, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, KDB said: I can't imagine anyone being upset if we were able to hire him. I still question why he'd be interested, but I know we've hashed that out. Edited November 29, 2023 by btownqb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted November 29, 2023 Report Share Posted November 29, 2023 35 minutes ago, OGIUAndy said: Man, IUFB isn't the end all be all. Unless we hire a guy ready to retire, there's always a chance a coach or HC leave for a better job. Even guys like Frye or ARE could leave if they have success. ARE would not leave IU if he built a winner here. I firmly believe that. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drroogh Posted November 29, 2023 Report Share Posted November 29, 2023 17 minutes ago, btownqb said: I have no problem if Mike Hart is hired away, by Michigan, to be their HC. That's the only school MH has shown he'd leave IU for. IF MH is hired by UM to be their HC, at some point, that would mean he would have won big time at Indiana. UM isn't hiring him if he struggles at IU. I would think that UM’s current choice for next coach is Sherron Moore. Might be part of the reason Hart is interested? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUskim Posted November 29, 2023 Report Share Posted November 29, 2023 2 minutes ago, 5fouls said: ARE would not leave IU if he built a winner here. I firmly believe that. Only place I would see him leave for would be to take over for Mike tomlin. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naturalhoosier Posted November 29, 2023 Report Share Posted November 29, 2023 2 minutes ago, 5fouls said: ARE would not leave IU if he built a winner here. I firmly believe that. Another reason to bring him in. Not as a HC. But as an assistant for now. Then when the next coach leaves he’ll slot in nicely. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted November 29, 2023 Report Share Posted November 29, 2023 2 minutes ago, Drroogh said: I would think that UM’s current choice for next coach is Sherron Moore. Might be part of the reason Hart is interested? I have no idea. All I am saying... if the order of events eventually lead to MH being the UM HC..... he HAS to do well at Indiana first. There is no route for him to be the HC there and struggle at IU. Isn't happening. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted November 29, 2023 Report Share Posted November 29, 2023 14 minutes ago, BGleas said: Who was the last head coach to parlay the IU job into something better? Sam Wyche, if you consider the Bengals of that era to be something better. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted November 29, 2023 Report Share Posted November 29, 2023 Just now, 5fouls said: Sam Wyche, if you consider the Bengals of that era to be something better. Wommack, DeBoer, and really Mike Hart would all fit that role. Deland McCullough, as well. David Ballou, Matt Rhea. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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