Hoosier92 Posted March 22, 2019 Report Share Posted March 22, 2019 Well Vandy just fired Coach Drew after 3 season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zlinedavid Posted March 22, 2019 Report Share Posted March 22, 2019 Quick trigger. He'll catch on somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier92 Posted March 22, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2019 Very quick indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FKIM01 Posted March 22, 2019 Report Share Posted March 22, 2019 Definitely quick. At the same time, was not impressed with what I saw, even accounting for injuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indykev Posted March 22, 2019 Report Share Posted March 22, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indykev Posted March 22, 2019 Report Share Posted March 22, 2019 19 minutes ago, Hoosier92 said: Well Vandy just fired Coach Drew after 3 season. New AD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FKIM01 Posted March 22, 2019 Report Share Posted March 22, 2019 I don't get not letting him walk when you just fired a guy. You afraid he's going to do a mediocre job with one of your opponents? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zlinedavid Posted March 22, 2019 Report Share Posted March 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, Indykev said: IMO, this is worse than being fired, unless it's at Drew's request. The guy is a coach. If you don't want him, let him coach somewhere else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier92 Posted March 22, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, Indykev said: New AD. I was reading that he had only been to 1 practice and this was their first meeting. However the new AD also has no experience in college basketball. He came from the NBA G League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FKIM01 Posted March 22, 2019 Report Share Posted March 22, 2019 ...and wow...fired at the first meeting. That AD is going to have a fun time finding a replacement. "Hello...I'm Quick Trigger Turner. Would you like to be fired prematurely? " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted March 22, 2019 Report Share Posted March 22, 2019 Said this in a thread about Drew earlier in February, while Vandy isn't an easy place to win, it is doable, as Kevin Stallings had about 10 really good years there. But Drew made a very calculated mistake by trying to go the one and done route at Vandy. That was just a very poor judgement call by him. There are a lot of things a program has to have in place to support a team with multiple one and dones. UK is set up for this. Duke is set for this. Kansas, etc. Vanderbilt is not and it was a big mistake by Drew that ultimately cost him his job. At Vandy you're trying to do what Barnes has done at Tennessee. Or something like Wisconsin. You're never going to turn Vandy into Duke or UK, it will backfire massively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zlinedavid Posted March 22, 2019 Report Share Posted March 22, 2019 7 minutes ago, FKIM01 said: "Hello...I'm Quick Trigger Turner. Would you like to be fired prematurely? " "I've heard you fire prematurely quite often. Toss off. I quit." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zuckerkorn Posted March 22, 2019 Report Share Posted March 22, 2019 6 minutes ago, BGleas said: Said this in a thread about Drew earlier in February, while Vandy isn't an easy place to win, it is doable, as Kevin Stallings had about 10 really good years there. But Drew made a very calculated mistake by trying to go the one and done route at Vandy. That was just a very poor judgement call by him. There are a lot of things a program has to have in place to support a team with multiple one and dones. UK is set up for this. Duke is set for this. Kansas, etc. Vanderbilt is not and it was a big mistake by Drew that ultimately cost him his job. At Vandy you're trying to do what Barnes has done at Tennessee. Or something like Wisconsin. You're never going to turn Vandy into Duke or UK, it will backfire massively. I agree completely. I'll add that at this time, we're not set up for that strategy either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zlinedavid Posted March 22, 2019 Report Share Posted March 22, 2019 11 minutes ago, BGleas said: Said this in a thread about Drew earlier in February, while Vandy isn't an easy place to win, it is doable, as Kevin Stallings had about 10 really good years there. But Drew made a very calculated mistake by trying to go the one and done route at Vandy. That was just a very poor judgement call by him. There are a lot of things a program has to have in place to support a team with multiple one and dones. UK is set up for this. Duke is set for this. Kansas, etc. Vanderbilt is not and it was a big mistake by Drew that ultimately cost him his job. At Vandy you're trying to do what Barnes has done at Tennessee. Or something like Wisconsin. You're never going to turn Vandy into Duke or UK, it will backfire massively. On one hand, I agree. On the other hand, there's always a ton of backlash if a coach doesn't go after and land the highly regarded "local" recruit. Double edged sword, I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier92 Posted March 22, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2019 I wonder if we will see any transfers now that this has happened. Aaron Nesmith (SG) could be a good addition to IU should he look to leave. As a freshman he shot 34% (59/175) from behind the arc. Not the best stat but almost certainly better than everyone else we have minus Green (42/101) and Durham (36/101). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted March 22, 2019 Report Share Posted March 22, 2019 25 minutes ago, Zuckerkorn said: I agree completely. I'll add that at this time, we're not set up for that strategy either. Agree. Maybe when Archie has 5-6 years in and the culture is established, but not now. This is why I wasn't that worried about landing Brooks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted March 22, 2019 Report Share Posted March 22, 2019 21 minutes ago, Zlinedavid said: On one hand, I agree. On the other hand, there's always a ton of backlash if a coach doesn't go after and land the highly regarded "local" recruit. Double edged sword, I suppose. I'm not specifically talking about Garland, as I agree on the local point, but how much time did he waste going after Langford and Shittu (I realize he landed Shittu)? Instead of the time and effort with those two he could have added two really good grad transfers or two freshmen that more would fit the Vanderbilt mold. Not saying it would have helped a ton this specific season, but at Vandy you need to build a program, the one and done would never be sustainable there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inequality Posted March 22, 2019 Report Share Posted March 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Hoosier92 said: Well Vandy just fired Coach Drew after 3 season. Welcome to the forum! Im not at all surprised. I don’t think Vandy won a game all season did they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier92 Posted March 22, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2019 1 minute ago, Inequality said: Welcome to the forum! Im not at all surprised. I don’t think Vandy won a game all season did they? 9-23 overall and 0-18 in their conference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billingsley99 Posted March 22, 2019 Report Share Posted March 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, BGleas said: I'm not specifically talking about Garland, as I agree on the local point, but how much time did he waste going after Langford and Shittu (I realize he landed Shittu)? Instead of the time and effort with those two he could have added two really good grad transfers or two freshmen that more would fit the Vanderbilt mold. Not saying it would have helped a ton this specific season, but at Vandy you need to build a program, the one and done would never be sustainable there. Playing some devils advocate here but if Garland and Shittu are not injured Drew still has a job IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted March 22, 2019 Report Share Posted March 22, 2019 5 minutes ago, Billingsley99 said: Playing some devils advocate here but if Garland and Shittu are not injured Drew still has a job IMO Absolutely agree, but they still would have been middle of pack at best in the SEC, then both would be gone. He wasn't replacing them with 2-3 more one and done's next season. It's just not a sustainable model at Vandy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billingsley99 Posted March 22, 2019 Report Share Posted March 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, BGleas said: Absolutely agree, but they still would have been middle of pack at best in the SEC, then both would be gone. He wasn't replacing them with 2-3 more one and done's next season. It's just not a sustainable model at Vandy. Agree as well. The 1 and done model is a tough one to orchestrate for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inequality Posted March 22, 2019 Report Share Posted March 22, 2019 7 minutes ago, Hoosier92 said: 9-23 overall and 0-18 in their conference. Back to back 20 loss seasons then right? IMO if your gonna clean house and start fresh then they are going about it the right way. Maybe Garland being healthy this season gets them above .500 and saves Drew’s job with the previous athletic director. I feel like this Turner guy was brought in to clean up and Garland or not Drew was out. If Drew needs a Garland or two around to maintain his job status, he isn’t much of a Coach. Anyone have any idea who they may be going after? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier92 Posted March 22, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2019 21 minutes ago, Inequality said: Back to back 20 loss seasons then right? IMO if your gonna clean house and start fresh then they are going about it the right way. Maybe Garland being healthy this season gets them above .500 and saves Drew’s job with the previous athletic director. I feel like this Turner guy was brought in to clean up and Garland or not Drew was out. If Drew needs a Garland or two around to maintain his job status, he isn’t much of a Coach. Anyone have any idea who they may be going after? On Twitter it was said they would use the same firm that found the new AD. With him having ties to the NBA it could be interesting to see if they try to get someone from there. Doubt they get a HC from the NBA but might be able to snag an assistant from there. No names have been given yet that I am aware of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zlinedavid Posted March 22, 2019 Report Share Posted March 22, 2019 49 minutes ago, BGleas said: Absolutely agree, but they still would have been middle of pack at best in the SEC, then both would be gone. He wasn't replacing them with 2-3 more one and done's next season. It's just not a sustainable model at Vandy. You're correct, it's not. But, what I think Drew hoped the effect Garland had was the same that Cody/Romeo had with Indiana. Maybe wouldn't have drawn certain recruits specifically, but it was a sign that this was a program worth looking at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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