madmax Posted November 26, 2017 Report Share Posted November 26, 2017 http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/21572440/tennessee-volunteers-finalizing-deal-make-greg-schiano-head-coach Vols fans are absolutely losing their minds. People are calling for the AD's head. I don't know that I've ever seen a fan base react quite this violent at the report of a new head coach. Go to twitter and search for "Schiano" or "Tennessee". It's madness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmax Posted November 26, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2017 https://twitter.com/UPROXXSports/status/934913489419800576 State reps are calling for the halt of the hire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted November 26, 2017 Report Share Posted November 26, 2017 They deserve whatever they get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehiiu Posted November 26, 2017 Report Share Posted November 26, 2017 List of Vol fans protesting : Greg Schiano under fire from Tennessee fans: Politicians, coffee house, protestors object (Twitter) | NJ.com I would not be surprised to see a "Fire Schiano" web site cropping up soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmax Posted November 26, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2017 I can't see any way that this hire actually ends up getting made. Not with the storm that this has created on social media. The AD will simply say that they had never offered him and that it was all false reports and he'll live to fight another day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted November 26, 2017 Report Share Posted November 26, 2017 Sports fans are total out of control and maybe they should get a life. To go to this extreme over a coaching hire is ridiculous. Some fan bases have an over inflated view of their sports programs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobSaccamanno Posted November 27, 2017 Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 Who is it that they want or thought they were getting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted November 27, 2017 Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 6 minutes ago, BobSaccamanno said: Who is it that they want or thought they were getting? My heart's desire is they get Brohm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted November 27, 2017 Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 53 minutes ago, IU Scott said: Sports fans are total out of control and maybe they should get a life. To go to this extreme over a coaching hire is ridiculous. Some fan bases have an over inflated view of their sports programs. I know some UT fans, and the ones I know are upset because Schiano was part of covering up children being raped at Penn State. I can think of nothing better to do that protest that immoral piece of manure being hired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmax Posted November 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 42 minutes ago, BobSaccamanno said: Who is it that they want or thought they were getting? Quite a few were hopeful they would land Gruden. Everyone outside of Tenn sees this as unrealistic, maybe similar to our fans hopes of getting Donovan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmax Posted November 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 7 minutes ago, KoB2011 said: I know some UT fans, and the ones I know are upset because Schiano was part of covering up children being raped at Penn State. I can think of nothing better to do that protest that immoral piece of manure being hired. This. I would only wonder if Schiano was a more successful coach if there would be the same outcry. He really has only had middling success as a HC. Regardless, I'm glad to see the public outcry and rejection on the hire. He doesn't deserve the spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted November 27, 2017 Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 5 minutes ago, madmax said: This. I would only wonder if Schiano was a more successful coach if there would be the same outcry. He really has only had middling success as a HC. Regardless, I'm glad to see the public outcry and rejection on the hire. He doesn't deserve the spot. Certainly fair to question if the outcry would be the same, but the outcry does seem very much directed at the morals and not the ability. I recall many IU fans (myself included) having similar feelings about Alford a few months back. I won't knock UT for rejecting this hire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmax Posted November 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 Just now, KoB2011 said: Certainly fair to question if the outcry would be the same, but the outcry does seem very much directed at the morals and not the ability. I recall many IU fans (myself included) having similar feelings about Alford a few months back. I won't knock UT for rejecting this hire. Yep, agreed. The reality is, if my understanding is accurate, that Schiano was never directly investigated for having knowledge of the abuse at PSU and doing nothing. I believe that it was reported that 3rd hand that he had told someone that he had seen Sandusky in the shower with a child and said nothing. These allegations he has since denied. For me, that is more than enough because at this point the 100% truth will never come out about what he did or didn't know. The wise route here is the safe one-don't hire him. Perception is reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted November 27, 2017 Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 3 minutes ago, madmax said: Yep, agreed. The reality is, if my understanding is accurate, that Schiano was never directly investigated for having knowledge of the abuse at PSU and doing nothing. I believe that it was reported that 3rd hand that he had told someone that he had seen Sandusky in the shower with a child and said nothing. These allegations he has since denied. For me, that is more than enough because at this point the 100% truth will never come out about what he did or didn't know. The wise route here is the safe one-don't hire him. Perception is reality. He wasn't investigated, but there is a court document claiming he saw Sandusky with a boy. Third hand as you said, but also enough to make anyone want to stay away as you said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmax Posted November 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 Ok, so this just continues to get crazier. There are unsubstantiated rumors flying all around that Schiano has actually already signed the contract, and that UT would have to pay his buyout if they decided not to continue with the hire. I find it hard to believe, and I would guess it's likely not true, but wow... What a nightmare for Tennessee if true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobSaccamanno Posted November 27, 2017 Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 Oh man, I had no idea Schiano was alleged to have seen Sandusky in the shower with a child. I somehow missed that and I’m not being sarcastic. As a parent, that Sandusky thing is the scariest thing to think about. The guillotine for Sandusky would not be inhumane in my mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmax Posted November 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 Aaaaaaaaand the deal is off: http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/21579125/tennessee-volunteers-no-longer-hire-greg-schiano-head-coach Apparently no contract was signed, but a memorandum of understanding was. He was to be announced as head coach tonight, until everything fell through. Good on the Volunteer fans-they made their voices heard and got results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leathernecks Posted November 27, 2017 Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 Any time somebody associated with that scandal gets fired or doesn't get a job, I'm a happy man. So many scumbags associated with that scandal. It's hard to know who knew and who didn't, but I can't imagine there weren't a handful of people who knew about it. McQueary testified that Schiano witnessed it, and being there for 6 years, I can't imagine he didn't see something, or hear something from one of the other coaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leathernecks Posted November 27, 2017 Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 How do you embed a tweet? Sources said their AD only vetted Schiano back to his Rutgers days and didn't even know he coached at Penn State. Yikes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted November 27, 2017 Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 Good for UT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimsorgi Posted November 27, 2017 Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 11 hours ago, KoB2011 said: He wasn't investigated, but there is a court document claiming he saw Sandusky with a boy. Third hand as you said, but also enough to make anyone want to stay away as you said. Yeah, McQueary said in a testimony that Schiano came into the office one day and told McQueary that he (Schiano) saw Sandusky doing something in the shower with a boy. This would have been when McQueary was a frosh/soph at Penn St., I assume (that's when they overlapped). I can certainly understand staying far away from any remote connection to that scandal (I wouldn't hire Schiano for that reason). But, like others have said, I wonder how much of the Tennessee reaction is really about the fact that they don't like him as a coach. Maybe I'm being too cynical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimsorgi Posted November 27, 2017 Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 8 hours ago, Leathernecks said: How do you embed a tweet? Sources said their AD only vetted Schiano back to his Rutgers days and didn't even know he coached at Penn State. Yikes. Wow. That's pretty terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted November 27, 2017 Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 Given the corner UT's AD now has them in. They are going to either have to overpay for someone or find another assistant coach who is willing to overlook being 5th choice. Here's some dark horses. Manny Diaz, Venables or maybe our old buddy Kevin Wilson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted November 27, 2017 Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 14 hours ago, KoB2011 said: I know some UT fans, and the ones I know are upset because Schiano was part of covering up children being raped at Penn State. I can think of nothing better to do that protest that immoral piece of manure being hired. I don't believe that for one minute. If he had a great record and has won big time they wouldn't care about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted November 27, 2017 Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 2 minutes ago, IU Scott said: I don't believe that for one minute. If he had a great record and has won big time they wouldn't care about that. You have no idea what they'd believe. It's fair to question if there would be the outrage, but you have no right to say people don't have a very real moral objection to the Schiano hire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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