Bustout Posted February 21, 2021 Report Share Posted February 21, 2021 I think they need 2 of 3 vs Rut, Purdue, and MSU plus a win or two in B1G tourney. If they win all 3 of those, less importance of first game in B1G tourney. Needless to say - Weds night is beyond massive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDB Posted February 21, 2021 Report Share Posted February 21, 2021 Does it really matter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bustout Posted February 21, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2021 1 minute ago, BDB said: Does it really matter? Yes. I want to see this team in tourney. Call me a psycho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCHoosier32 Posted February 21, 2021 Report Share Posted February 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, Bustout said: Yes. I want to see this team in tourney. Call me a psycho yeah. it matters to me too. regardless of what happens from here, i would like to be in the tourney! personally i think a win at Rutgers would put us in a position where we may only have to win 1 of the other 3. personally i don't think we'll win at Rutgers and am a little skeptical we'll win any of the other 3! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feathery Posted February 21, 2021 Report Share Posted February 21, 2021 11 minutes ago, BDB said: Does it really matter? I think is absolutely matters. Get into the dance and the narrative changes around the program. Miss the dance and it’s going to be toxic. Fans won’t be showing up next season, lost revenue, recruiting likely drops further because a coach is on the hot seat for a season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDB Posted February 21, 2021 Report Share Posted February 21, 2021 In my eyes, 15 wins and they're in. 14 wins and they have a chance. This site I look at a lot bases their stuff off of thousands of computer simulations that they run every day. They currently give IU a 78.6% chance to make the tournament, and have them as the last 10 seed. It also shows a percentage chance of making it with certain win totals, and for IU they give a 98.7% chance to make it with 15 wins, an 83.1% chance to make it with 14 wins, and then just an 8.1% chance to make it with 13 wins. There's a lot of interesting stuff on here, I recommend checking it out: https://www.teamrankings.com/ncaa-basketball/team/indiana-hoosiers/bracketology Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parakeet Jones Posted February 21, 2021 Report Share Posted February 21, 2021 I think we need two more. I don’t think it matters where. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FW_Hoosier Posted February 21, 2021 Report Share Posted February 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Parakeet Jones said: I think we need two more. I don’t think it matters where. I don’t know if 14-14 (8-11 in conference, 1-1 in the BTT) will be enough. Maybe if the wins are over Michigan and another ranked team in the BTT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierfan1901 Posted February 21, 2021 Report Share Posted February 21, 2021 Screw it, I still have a little faith, we win the next 4 games and 2 games in the BTT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parakeet Jones Posted February 21, 2021 Report Share Posted February 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, FW_Hoosier said: I don’t know if 14-14 (8-11 in conference, 1-1 in the BTT) will be enough. Maybe if the wins are over Michigan and another ranked team in the BTT. Pretty’s sure 2 more puts us at 14-12. 9-10 in B1G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDB Posted February 21, 2021 Report Share Posted February 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Hoosierfan1901 said: Screw it, I still have a little faith, we win the next 4 games and 2 games in the BTT Sounds like a lot of faith.. Especially when I think I saw you post that we were probably gonna go 0-4 to finish the regular season yesterday. Lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FW_Hoosier Posted February 21, 2021 Report Share Posted February 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Parakeet Jones said: Pretty’s sure 2 more puts us at 14-12. 9-10 in B1G. I was saying we go 1-3 down the stretch to finish the regular season 13-13 (8-11 in conference), then we go 1-1 in the BTT to finish 14-14. If you meant going 2-2 down the stretch to finish the regular season 14-12 (9-10 in conference), then going 0-1 in the BTT to finish 14-13, I think that would probably put us in a slightly better position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cutter Posted February 21, 2021 Report Share Posted February 21, 2021 Hope for the hopeless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierfan1901 Posted February 21, 2021 Report Share Posted February 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, KDB said: Sounds like a lot of faith.. Especially when I think I saw you post that we were probably gonna go 0-4 to finish the regular season yesterday. Lol. Still wouldn’t surprise me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted February 21, 2021 Report Share Posted February 21, 2021 14-14 is not good enough. The committee understands it's a different year, but they aren't going to go that far. I mean, there is exactly one extra bid out there than there has been in the past (since Ivy League is not playing). How many years in the past would the committee have taken a .500 team if they would have had 1 more bid? The answer would be 'never'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parakeet Jones Posted February 21, 2021 Report Share Posted February 21, 2021 Just now, FW_Hoosier said: I was saying we go 1-3 down the stretch to finish the regular season 13-13 (8-11 in conference), then we go 1-1 in the BTT to finish 14-14. If you meant going 2-2 down the stretch to finish the regular season 14-12 (9-10 in conference), then going 0-1 in the BTT to finish 14-13, I think that would probably put us in a slightly better position. Yes, I was talking about down the stretch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bustout Posted February 21, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2021 23 minutes ago, 5fouls said: 14-14 is not good enough. The committee understands it's a different year, but they aren't going to go that far. I mean, there is exactly one extra bid out there than there has been in the past (since Ivy League is not playing). How many years in the past would the committee have taken a .500 team if they would have had 1 more bid? The answer would be 'never'. Do you think IU is a top 68 team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted February 21, 2021 Report Share Posted February 21, 2021 Just now, Bustout said: Do you think IU is a top 68 team? With conference champions getting into the tourney, the Top 68 never make up the tourney field. No .500 team is deserving to be in the tourney, regardless of their strength of schedule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bustout Posted February 21, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2021 9 minutes ago, 5fouls said: With conference champions getting into the tourney, the Top 68 never make up the tourney field. No .500 team is deserving to be in the tourney, regardless of their strength of schedule. I understand top 68 don’t make it, but .500 with this years B1G being by far and away the best conference - you don’t think that’s deserving? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted February 21, 2021 Report Share Posted February 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Bustout said: I understand top 68 don’t make it, but .500 with this years B1G being by far and away the best conference - you don’t think that’s deserving? No. I don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bustout Posted February 21, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2021 7 minutes ago, 5fouls said: No. I don't. Interesting. I assume the argument would be if they were in another conference, say the SEC, they would be 16-12 at worst ... would that get them in? For example - look at IU vs Florida. Florida seems to be a lock. But do they have a better resume than IU (assuming IU at 14-14)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsidehoosier Posted February 21, 2021 Report Share Posted February 21, 2021 Have we beat Rutgers in the CAM era? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted February 21, 2021 Report Share Posted February 21, 2021 @Bustout Florida has a NET rating of 30. We have a NET rating of 52. The committee's main selection tool would say Florida deserves it more. Doesn't matter what I think we that significant of a gap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shooter Posted February 21, 2021 Report Share Posted February 21, 2021 1 hour ago, 5fouls said: 14-14 is not good enough. The committee understands it's a different year, but they aren't going to go that far. I mean, there is exactly one extra bid out there than there has been in the past (since Ivy League is not playing). How many years in the past would the committee have taken a .500 team if they would have had 1 more bid? The answer would be 'never'. This year is different due to the compressed OOC schedule. How many years in the past has a team played 26 of their 28 games against major conference opponents? Probably also never. In a normal year that hypothetical team would be 19-14 with a handful of wins over random directional schools. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bustout Posted February 21, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2021 27 minutes ago, 5fouls said: @Bustout Florida has a NET rating of 30. We have a NET rating of 52. The committee's main selection tool would say Florida deserves it more. Doesn't matter what I think we that significant of a gap. I thought some people said NET is a scam for some reason. Is that committees most used advanced metric? Florida has two solid wins. IUs two wins are arguably better (#4 and #8 vs #6 and #11). KenPom has them one ranking apart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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