IndySportsPartizan Posted February 22, 2021 Report Share Posted February 22, 2021 Tier 1 Fife Oats S Drew (he's been clean!) Beilein (idc if he is old!) Dutcher Altman Matta (he considered Bama and UG gigs, depends on his health) Tier 2 P. Moses Musselman Wishful thinking Beard Bennett Stevens Few Wright Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zuckerkorn Posted February 22, 2021 Report Share Posted February 22, 2021 I don't see how Fife belongs in "tier 1" unless solely based on being an ex-IU player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted February 22, 2021 Report Share Posted February 22, 2021 10 minutes ago, IndySportsPartizan said: Tier 1 Fife Oats S Drew (he's been clean!) Beilein (idc if he is old!) Dutcher Altman Matta (he considered Bama and UG gigs, depends on his health) Tier 2 P. Moses Musselman Wishful thinking Beard Bennett Stevens Few Wright No way Fife would be in tier 1. If Scott Drew has not done anything wrong why was he voted as one of the dirtiest coaches in the game. This is what is wrong if the tier 1 is the best we can do because it is not very encouraging. The only two I would take in that tier would be Matta and Beilein. I would have to look deep into Altman because he is a good coach but would like to see how much Nike has helped him at Oregon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbmhoosier Posted February 22, 2021 Report Share Posted February 22, 2021 Drew and Matta are the only ones who make any sense. Matta if he has a clean bill of health. Big IF from my understanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxnJxn Posted February 22, 2021 Report Share Posted February 22, 2021 That's a highly underwhelming list, and IMO, not worth making a change at this point. I wanted Beilein after WVU, not now. Matta's health is a major question mark, and the rest are pretty meh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
labeck81 Posted February 22, 2021 Report Share Posted February 22, 2021 Oats would be my choice (outside of the miracle of Stevens) but he just signed an enormous extension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted February 22, 2021 Report Share Posted February 22, 2021 I think I have decided I would got for a flyer and hire Keith Smart and pair him with a former veteran college HC. I also would try to bring in Micheal Lewis as an assistant and try the former IU guys to see if that can turn it around. We have tried other avenues and it hasn't work so why not try this to see if it will make a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhinithreeMagic Posted February 22, 2021 Report Share Posted February 22, 2021 Matta is the only name remotely interesting to me. The rest are committing yourself to another 4-5 years of purgatory. Also, I like the guy but Fife on this list is hilariously bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted February 22, 2021 Report Share Posted February 22, 2021 3 minutes ago, IU Scott said: I think I have decided I would got for a flyer and hire Keith Smart and pair him with a former veteran college HC. I also would try to bring in Micheal Lewis as an assistant and try the former IU guys to see if that can turn it around. We have tried other avenues and it hasn't work so why not try this to see if it will make a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hippopotamo Posted February 22, 2021 Report Share Posted February 22, 2021 This list is a big reason why I’m in favor of giving Archie a 5th year. That tier one list is incredibly uninspiring to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUwins0708 Posted February 22, 2021 Report Share Posted February 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, Hippopotamo said: This list is a big reason why I’m in favor of giving Archie a 5th year. That tier one list is incredibly uninspiring to me. So is the play of this team the last 3.5 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUwins0708 Posted February 22, 2021 Report Share Posted February 22, 2021 Drew and Matta only two on that least for me. I’m not a big Nate Oats guy, almost seems gimmicky to me but I’m probably wrong. Wouldn’t mind Keith Smart but I think Alford would be a better choice than him. As myself and some others have said, sometimes the fit is just meant to be, maybe that’s one of these guys on the list. 🤷🏼♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
go_iu_bb Posted February 22, 2021 Report Share Posted February 22, 2021 35 minutes ago, IU Scott said: No way Fife would be in tier 1. If Scott Drew has not done anything wrong why was he voted as one of the dirtiest coaches in the game. This is what is wrong if the tier 1 is the best we can do because it is not very encouraging. The only two I would take in that tier would be Matta and Beilein. I would have to look deep into Altman because he is a good coach but would like to see how much Nike has helped him at Oregon. I believe you're referring to a poll when Crean was still coach. IIRC Crean was also on that list. Do you think he was dirty? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierJax Posted February 22, 2021 Report Share Posted February 22, 2021 Not sure about who a possible candidate would be, be one thing is for sure...Miller's seat is getting hot...to much chatter out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted February 22, 2021 Report Share Posted February 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, go_iu_bb said: I believe you're referring to a poll when Crean was still coach. IIRC Crean was also on that list. Do you think he was dirty? Context. 100 coaches were polled. Crean got 3 votes. Drew got something like 34. votes. Drew was one vote behind Cal. 3 votes could be that some random coach just did not like Crean personally. 30+ votes means something else entirely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted February 22, 2021 Report Share Posted February 22, 2021 8 minutes ago, go_iu_bb said: I believe you're referring to a poll when Crean was still coach. IIRC Crean was also on that list. Do you think he was dirty? Sure do because I don't think you can turn a program like Baylor into a power if you don't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted February 22, 2021 Report Share Posted February 22, 2021 Maybe if drew came we could get Tonnegal from Indiana Wesleyan to come with him. Tonnegal played at Valpo for Homer Drew and he is very close to the Drew family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FritzIam4IU Posted February 22, 2021 Report Share Posted February 22, 2021 My wife's family is close to the Drew family...maybe I could get some free tix if Drew is hired. 🤔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
go_iu_bb Posted February 22, 2021 Report Share Posted February 22, 2021 3 minutes ago, IU Scott said: Sure do because I don't think you can turn a program like Baylor into a power if you don't Crean. Do you think Crean was dirty at IU? He was also on that list at the time at that time. My question was about him, not Drew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Air Ball Posted February 22, 2021 Report Share Posted February 22, 2021 27 minutes ago, Hippopotamo said: This list is a big reason why I’m in favor of giving Archie a 5th year. That tier one list is incredibly uninspiring to me. Archie has to get this team into the NCAAT. I really want him to survive this and for IU to excel. But the PG and guard and lack of shooting are killing IU. But in all of that is basketball IQ. These guys do not get it that one cannot turnover the ball like they do. And they have to put in full effort on defense. And assist each other on offense. Is all that up to the coach? Heck yeah it is. Get some smart (older) players out there. Replace the PG now. Not the coach. Replace the coach and some on the team will transfer. There goes the chance for them to get old again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted February 22, 2021 Report Share Posted February 22, 2021 Lets just say the Celtics are dumb enough to fire Stevens then you put out a full court press. I don't see anyway that the Celtics will fire Stevens because who else is out there that would be better than Brad. If you look at the candidates every time an opening happens in the NBA you will not see very many big name coaches. it is either a top assistant or coaches like Nate McMillian. Also I blame more of the Celtics problems on injuries and Danny Ainge because he still has not gotten them a really good big man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IowaHoosierFan Posted February 22, 2021 Report Share Posted February 22, 2021 You forgot Bruce Pearl. has ties and when he goes all in on his team. He is part of whatever school he coaches. Yes he has some issues with NCAA violations but he is still coaching and I think IU is a gig where he could get into that gray area and be just fine. He is my #1 pick after CAM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted February 22, 2021 Report Share Posted February 22, 2021 Just now, go_iu_bb said: Crean. Do you think Crean was dirty at IU? He was also on that list at the time at that time. My question was about him, not Drew. No I don't think Crean was Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IowaHoosierFan Posted February 22, 2021 Report Share Posted February 22, 2021 Just now, go_iu_bb said: Crean. Do you think Crean was dirty at IU? He was also on that list at the time at that time. My question was about him, not Drew. Yes i do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted February 22, 2021 Report Share Posted February 22, 2021 Just now, IowaHoosierFan said: You forgot Bruce Pearl. has ties and when he goes all in on his team. He is part of whatever school he coaches. Yes he has some issues with NCAA violations but he is still coaching and I think IU is a gig where he could get into that gray area and be just fine. He is my #1 pick after CAM No thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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