IU Scott Posted February 28, 2021 Report Share Posted February 28, 2021 Just now, tdhoosier said: Watching the Bulls in the early 2000’s I always thought Skiles would be better suited for college vs. the NBA. Not saying that he’d be on my list, but I am curious to see if he’d have any success at this level. To me it seems like he rubs people the wrong way and he wasn't able to stay in one place long but could be wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted February 28, 2021 Report Share Posted February 28, 2021 13 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said: This fanbase is already making excuses for a guy that’s not even our coach my god The thing is that Drew is probably the top coach that we could expect to get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unexpectedflash Posted February 28, 2021 Report Share Posted February 28, 2021 Unless we’re getting Stevens which I think is unrealistic at this point, I think it’s possible to find flaws in all of the possible candidates. But a new hire is as much about projecting what they’ll be in the future as what they’ve done in the past and everyone has their own opinion on who they think will be the best. In my opinion I think it’s easiest to see how a coach that has had a top 5 team with a team full of 4 star recruits and transfers the last two years would be able to have success here. I just hope the people making the hire finally are able to get one of these right. Since all of these candidates have some flaws it’ll take a little luck which we are definitely due for after 25 years of mediocre basketball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierJax Posted February 28, 2021 Report Share Posted February 28, 2021 2 hours ago, BDB said: That would be good news. Are you getting this from other sites or elsewhere? Drew would definitely be a step in the right direction Just reading around....usually when there is alot of chatter going on something is up...just like with CAM,alot of chatter about him,his 4 seasons, his buyout...where there is smoke,there is usually a fire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FritzIam4IU Posted February 28, 2021 Report Share Posted February 28, 2021 One thing I have noticed, and it might be nothing...but I have not heard Dolson make any kind of comment in support of Archie with all the chatter and articles starting to pop up about replacing CAM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted February 28, 2021 Report Share Posted February 28, 2021 Just now, FritzIam4IU said: One thing I have noticed, and it might be nothing...but I have not heard Dolson make any kind of comment in support of Archie with all the chatter and articles starting to pop up about replacing CAM. If he's smart he won't until the season is over...never count your chickens... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUrocker Posted February 28, 2021 Report Share Posted February 28, 2021 It does make me wonder if at this point there’s more fire than smoke with a change likely being made after this season, or if it could possibly be just media using the frustration they obviously see with the fans as fuel to come up with articles based off chatter and frustration which leads to get them their clicks. Do media outlets really know some things we don’t that actually make them think a change will be made, or are they just using places like this to write up articles that they know will blow up and stir the pot... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierJax Posted February 28, 2021 Report Share Posted February 28, 2021 1 minute ago, FritzIam4IU said: One thing I have noticed, and it might be nothing...but I have not heard Dolson make any kind of comment in support of Archie with all the chatter and articles starting to pop up about replacing CAM. Doleson is an IU guy...he knows this isnt acceptable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FritzIam4IU Posted February 28, 2021 Report Share Posted February 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, IUFLA said: If he's smart he won't until the season is over...never count your chickens... I hear you. But he must be at the very least seriously considering making a change or I would have thought he would have put out some sort of statement such as "CAM is our coach and we have full confidence in him etc." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted February 28, 2021 Report Share Posted February 28, 2021 Just now, FritzIam4IU said: I hear you. But he must be at the very least seriously considering making a change or I would have thought he would have put out some sort of statement such as "CAM is our coach and we have full confidence in him etc." I've always interpreted those "statements of support" to be the kiss of death... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted February 28, 2021 Report Share Posted February 28, 2021 At the time I didn't think much of it but the last few senior speeches the players rarely mentioned Archie. I wonder how much of a disconnect their is between the coach and the players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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dbmhoosier Posted February 28, 2021 Report Share Posted February 28, 2021 Just now, IUFLA said: I've always interpreted those "statements of support" to be the kiss of death... Yeah it usually means that we know this coach isn't the guy but we're not firing him just yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbmhoosier Posted February 28, 2021 Report Share Posted February 28, 2021 1 minute ago, HoosierJax said: I've been saying all along that he's the obvious hire. Now go watch Baylor win the NT this year. We always have the worst luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FritzIam4IU Posted February 28, 2021 Report Share Posted February 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, dbmhoosier said: I've been saying all along that he's the obvious hire. Now go watch Baylor win the NT this year. We always have the worst luck. IF IU makes a change after the season I would list my (somewhat) realistic favorites as: 1. Brad Stevens...(maybe he isn't realistic but you have to try...and then try again...and maybe a 3rd time!) 2. Scott Drew 3. Beard 4. Matta (depending on health) 5. Musselman/Altman I'm not sure there are any other realistic options that would excite me much. My fear is that if Dolson makes a change he will call Stevens and he will say no and then he will call Alford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierJax Posted February 28, 2021 Report Share Posted February 28, 2021 9 minutes ago, FritzIam4IU said: IF IU makes a change after the season I would list my (somewhat) realistic favorites as: 1. Brad Stevens...(maybe he isn't realistic but you have to try...and then try again...and maybe a 3rd time!) 2. Scott Drew 3. Beard 4. Matta (depending on health) 5. Musselman/Altman I'm not sure there are any other realistic options that would excite me much. My fear is that if Dolson makes a change he will call Stevens and he will say no and then he will call Alford. Thats a realistic list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierDom Posted February 28, 2021 Report Share Posted February 28, 2021 16 minutes ago, FritzIam4IU said: IF IU makes a change after the season I would list my (somewhat) realistic favorites as: 1. Brad Stevens...(maybe he isn't realistic but you have to try...and then try again...and maybe a 3rd time!) 2. Scott Drew 3. Beard 4. Matta (depending on health) 5. Musselman/Altman I'm not sure there are any other realistic options that would excite me much. My fear is that if Dolson makes a change he will call Stevens and he will say no and then he will call Alford. I like this list, though I'm not sure on Altman and I don't love Matta. I hope we get things set up before firing Archie though - I would rather keep Archie for another year than just fire him and begin a fresh search from the beginning with no real idea of whom we can actually get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FritzIam4IU Posted February 28, 2021 Report Share Posted February 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, HoosierDom said: I like this list, though I'm not sure on Altman and I don't love Matta. I hope we get things set up before firing Archie though - I would rather keep Archie for another year than just fire him and begin a fresh search from the beginning with no real idea of whom we can actually get. Yep. I think if Dolson makes a move he needs to really have something in place before just firing Archie and hoping for the best. I listed those in order of preference...Altman was probably a little behind Musselman for me. Of those I listed I feel confident Drew or Musselman would come if IU made a strong offer. The others are all more question marks for various reasons. I don't think IU can take a risk on a mid major flavor of the month...if they do that they might as well just stick with CAM for another year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted February 28, 2021 Report Share Posted February 28, 2021 7 minutes ago, HoosierDom said: I like this list, though I'm not sure on Altman and I don't love Matta. I hope we get things set up before firing Archie though - I would rather keep Archie for another year than just fire him and begin a fresh search from the beginning with no real idea of whom we can actually get. Thing is if he stays another year and then we have to fire hi after year 5 we would still have the same candidates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FritzIam4IU Posted February 28, 2021 Report Share Posted February 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, IU Scott said: Thing is if he stays another year and then we have to fire hi after year 5 we would still have the same candidates Maybe. Or perhaps Drew signs a big contract extension after the season ends with huge buyout. Or someone might leave for another opening. Just never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted February 28, 2021 Report Share Posted February 28, 2021 Just now, FritzIam4IU said: Maybe. Or perhaps Drew signs a big contract extension after the season ends with huge buyout. Or someone might leave for another opening. Just never know. Just saying if you think you will eventually have to make a change just do it now and not prolong it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUDan93 Posted February 28, 2021 Report Share Posted February 28, 2021 Hey, if Musselman comes, do ya think Justin Smith will transfer to continue playing for him?😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierdave Posted February 28, 2021 Report Share Posted February 28, 2021 Here’s my list (in no particular order). Tbh I think the only ones we have a legit shot with are Beilein and Pitino. Just can’t see any of them viewing the IU job as a step up from what they got currently. Rick Pitino Thad Matta John Beilein Brad Stevens Scott Drew Leonard Hamilton Long Kruger Bruce Pearl Chris Beard Mark Few Dana Altman Eric Mussleman Nate Oats Rick Barnes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted February 28, 2021 Report Share Posted February 28, 2021 13 minutes ago, Hoosierdave said: Here’s my list (in no particular order). Tbh I think the only ones we have a legit shot with are Beilein and Pitino. Just can’t see any of them viewing the IU job as a step up from what they got currently. Rick Pitino- Thad Matta- John Beilein- Brad Stevens Scott Drew Leonard Hamilton Long Kruger Bruce Pearl Chris Beard Mark Few Dana Altman Eric Mussleman Nate Oats Rick Barnes Rick Pitino-Don't want him Thad Matta- I like it John Beilein- I like it Brad Stevens- no chance Scott Drew- Like it if his back ground checks out Leonard Hamilton- Don't see him leaving FSU at age 71 Long Kruger- Good solid candidate but nothing spectacular Bruce Pearl- Never would want him Chris Beard- I like it Mark Few- No chance Dana Altman- I like it but how much is his success due to Nike Eric Mussleman- Maybe Nate Oats- Maybe Rick Barnes- He would be alright Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADGERVOL Posted February 28, 2021 Report Share Posted February 28, 2021 14 minutes ago, Hoosierdave said: Here’s my list (in no particular order). Tbh I think the only ones we have a legit shot with are Beilein and Pitino. Just can’t see any of them viewing the IU job as a step up from what they got currently. Rick Pitino Thad Matta John Beilein Brad Stevens Scott Drew Leonard Hamilton Long Kruger Bruce Pearl Chris Beard Mark Few Dana Altman Eric Mussleman Nate Oats Rick Barnes Love your list particularly since it has NO Alford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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