IUFLA Posted November 3, 2021 Report Share Posted November 3, 2021 Just thought I'd see what the prevailing thought on the B1G season is...here's what I came up with... Ohio State Purdue Indiana Michigan Maryland Northwestern Illinois Michigan State Rutgers Wisconsin Iowa Nebraska Penn State Minnesota Anybody else? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbmhoosier Posted November 3, 2021 Report Share Posted November 3, 2021 What? Illinois at 7? You morning drinking? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted November 3, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2021 (edited) 18 minutes ago, dbmhoosier said: What? Illinois at 7? You morning drinking? No...I think they underestimate the loss of Ayo, and overestimate how good Curbelo will be... The kid needs to develop an outside shot...and he can turn it over a lot... Cockburn will get his, but unless the Illini prove early that Williams is as good an outside shooter as he was last year with a higher volume of shots, and someone else beside Trent Frazier steps up to 35%+, he'll be double and triple teamed pretty much every time he touches it... Edited November 3, 2021 by IUFLA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbmhoosier Posted November 3, 2021 Report Share Posted November 3, 2021 Just now, IUFLA said: No...I think they underestimate the loss of Ayo, and overestimate how good Curbelo will be... The kid needs to develop an outside shot...and he can turn it over a lot... Cockburn will get his, but unless the Illini proves early that Williams is as good an outside shooter as he was last year with a higher volume of shots, and someone else beside Trent Frazier steps up to 35%+, he'll be double and triple teamed pretty much every time he touches it... Fair enough but I disagree. I'd also flip MSU and NW. OSU to win is an interesting pick but it's what Archie thinks as well. PU, UI, IU, and OSU all have a shot at winning the league imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted November 3, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2021 1 minute ago, dbmhoosier said: OSU to win is an interesting pick but it's what Archie thinks as well. Yeah, well at one time both me and Archie thought he'd still have his job this year, and you see how that worked out 😉 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdhoosier Posted November 3, 2021 Report Share Posted November 3, 2021 (edited) Tier 1 Purdue Tier 2 Ohio State Michigan Illinois Tier 3 Indiana Michigan State Maryland Tier 4 Rutgers Nebraska Wisconsin Northwestern Tier 5 Iowa Penn State Tier "will they even win a game?" Minnesota Edited November 3, 2021 by tdhoosier now with tiers! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierDom Posted November 3, 2021 Report Share Posted November 3, 2021 I didn't grow up an IU fan, so I don't have the ingrained Purdue hatred that a lot of people here have, but I still think they're overrated. I will be surprised if they compete for the BIG title. I think OSU and Michigan will be at the top. By tournament time MSU and IU will be right there with them, but both of us will lose a few winnable games early in the conference, so we won't have a shot at the regular season crown. I agree with you on Illinois - I'd say they're a bubble team. They'll make it, but not by that much. Northwestern is more of a true bubble team and might not make it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdhoosier Posted November 3, 2021 Report Share Posted November 3, 2021 Just now, HoosierDom said: I didn't grow up an IU fan, so I don't have the ingrained Purdue hatred that a lot of people here have, but I still think they're overrated. I will be surprised if they compete for the BIG title. I think OSU and Michigan will be at the top. By tournament time MSU and IU will be right there with them, but both of us will lose a few winnable games early in the conference, so we won't have a shot at the regular season crown. I agree with you on Illinois - I'd say they're a bubble team. They'll make it, but not by that much. Northwestern is more of a true bubble team and might not make it. I think it is Purdue's to lose right now. It looks like they have 2 of the best 6 or 7 players in the B1G and a lot of depth beyond that. Also, love him or hate him, Painter is close to surpassing Izzo for the best coach in the conference....maybe already has. (I'm talking systems right now, not past success.) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybergates Posted November 3, 2021 Report Share Posted November 3, 2021 6 minutes ago, HoosierDom said: I didn't grow up an IU fan, so I don't have the ingrained Purdue hatred that a lot of people here have, but I still think they're overrated. I will be surprised if they compete for the BIG title. I think OSU and Michigan will be at the top. By tournament time MSU and IU will be right there with them, but both of us will lose a few winnable games early in the conference, so we won't have a shot at the regular season crown. I agree with you on Illinois - I'd say they're a bubble team. They'll make it, but not by that much. Northwestern is more of a true bubble team and might not make it. I have the hatred of all things Turdue Toiletmakers, so I'm not sure if its the poop-stained glasses or not, but I agree with you to an extent. I think they'll go as far as Ivey takes them. From what I've seen (only a few games vs. IU and probably B1G tournament and NCAA tournament) he forces things (similar to Carson Edwards), so if he's on then they'll be tough and if he's not they'll lose some games they should have won. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbmhoosier Posted November 3, 2021 Report Share Posted November 3, 2021 We match up well against PU imo. Rob can guard Ivey as well as anyone and we have plenty of bigs to throw at them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billingsley99 Posted November 3, 2021 Report Share Posted November 3, 2021 5 minutes ago, dbmhoosier said: We match up well against PU imo. Rob can guard Ivey as well as anyone and we have plenty of bigs to throw at them. I agree. Have to force tempo and make Edey get up and down the floor. He can be taken away. Cannot let them control pace or it could be a long day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted November 3, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2021 (edited) 14 minutes ago, dbmhoosier said: We match up well against PU imo. Rob can guard Ivey as well as anyone and we have plenty of bigs to throw at them. Ivey averaged 15 ppg against us last year, and if I remember correctly, Rob didn't fare too well against him (and neither did Armaan or Al). If Rob struggles on defense, it always seemed to be kids who had a height advantage on him (like Ivey) and were as athletic as he is (like Ivey)...That's why I think maybe Bates can help. He's basically the same size as Ivey, same athleticism, and has that chip on his shoulder like Ivey does...I would say Geronimo too, but he struggled guarding wings out on the floor last year... 7 minutes ago, Billingsley99 said: I agree. Have to force tempo and make Edey get up and down the floor. He can be taken away. Cannot let them control pace or it could be a long day Which is why I liked the Durr pickup so much...He'll be a big factor off the bench in guarding Edey, Cockburn, and Dickinson...I don't think Edey will start for Purdue (Trevion Williams will make sure of that) but it'll be nice to have someone that can push those big guys out of their comfort zones... Edited November 3, 2021 by IUFLA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdhoosier Posted November 3, 2021 Report Share Posted November 3, 2021 4 minutes ago, Billingsley99 said: I agree. Have to force tempo and make Edey get up and down the floor. He can be taken away. Cannot let them control pace or it could be a long day Here's to hoping Woody can implement a successful strategy. Call me jaded, but my optimism is hesitant. I can't even remember the last game IU dictated anything, let alone tempo, against Purdue. Many teams look good on paper against Purdue and think they can take their bigs out of the game, but very often, it doesn't come to fruition. *I promise this ends my Purdue praising for they day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted November 3, 2021 Report Share Posted November 3, 2021 41 minutes ago, tdhoosier said: Tier 1 Purdue Tier 2 Ohio State Michigan Illinois Tier 3 Indiana Michigan State Maryland Tier 4 Rutgers Nebraska Wisconsin Northwestern Tier 5 Iowa Penn State Tier "will they even win a game?" Minnesota I'm closer to this one where depending on schedules Michigan/Purdue/Ohio St I think are lead dogs. I would move Illinois back to the tier we are in just as said earlier....you don't get better when you lose a player like Ayo. You just don't. I pray Wisconsin is back in Tier 4 but until they actually end up there I have to keep them in our neighborhood. Tough, tough conference again. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted November 3, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Seeking6 said: I'm closer to this one where depending on schedules Michigan/Purdue/Ohio St I think are lead dogs. I would move Illinois back to the tier we are in just as said earlier....you don't get better when you lose a player like Ayo. You just don't. I pray Wisconsin is back in Tier 4 but until they actually end up there I have to keep them in our neighborhood. Tough, tough conference again. Schedules do matter....I'm only going to go through what I think is the top half of the B1G... Ohio State Teams they play twice in the B1G Penn State Nebraska Indiana Wisconsin Minnesota Maryland Michigan Play once @ Home Northwestern Michigan St Iowa Away Purdue Illinois Rutgers Purdue Teams they play twice in the B1G Rutgers Indiana Illinois Wisconsin Northwestern Michigan Iowa Play once @ Home Ohio St Nebraska Maryland Away Penn St Minnesota Michigan St Indiana Teams they play twice in the B1G Nebraska Wisconsin Penn State Purdue Minnesota Maryland Ohio State Play once @ Home Michigan Illinois Rutgers Away Iowa Northwestern Michigan St Michigan Teams they play twice in the B1G Nebraska Rutgers Illinois Michigan St Iowa Ohio State Purdue Play once @ Home Minnesota Northwestern Maryland Away Indiana Penn St Wisconsin Maryland Teams they play twice in the B1G Northwestern Indiana Rutgers Iowa Illinois Michigan St Ohio St Play once @ Home Wisconsin Penn St Minnesota Away Nebraska Michigan Purdue Northwestern Teams they play twice in the B1G Maryland Michigan St Illinois Penn St Minnesota Nebraska Purdue Play once @ Home Rutgers Wisconsin Indiana Away Ohio St Michigan Iowa Illinois Teams they play twice in the B1G Rutgers Maryland Michigan St Michigan Purdue Northwestern Iowa Play once @ Home Ohio St Wisconsin Penn St Away Minnesota Nebraska Indiana Michigan St Teams they play twice in the B1G Minnesota Penn St Maryland Michigan Northwestern Wisconsin Illinois Play once @ Home Nebraska Indiana Purdue Away Iowa Rutgers Ohio State Rutgers Teams they play twice in the B1G Illinois Purdue Michigan Nebraska Maryland Wisconsin Penn St Play once @ Home Iowa Michigan St Ohio St Away Indiana Northwestern Minnesota Edited November 3, 2021 by IUFLA 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWatShot Posted November 3, 2021 Report Share Posted November 3, 2021 3 hours ago, HoosierDom said: I didn't grow up an IU fan, so I don't have the ingrained Purdue hatred that a lot of people here have, but I still think they're overrated. I will be surprised if they compete for the BIG title. I think OSU and Michigan will be at the top. By tournament time MSU and IU will be right there with them, but both of us will lose a few winnable games early in the conference, so we won't have a shot at the regular season crown. I agree with you on Illinois - I'd say they're a bubble team. They'll make it, but not by that much. Northwestern is more of a true bubble team and might not make it. They'll be very good, but I think they and OSU were the two most overrated teams in the country last year. I picked both of them to lose the first weekend of the tournament and felt I was being a bit bold...then they both went and lost a round earlier. Purdue is going to get a ton of hype because of how much they return, which is significant in today's game, but also makes a lot of media members drool over them because the whole "get old and stay old" spiel makes them feel like it's the 1990's again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted November 3, 2021 Report Share Posted November 3, 2021 PU UM OSU UI IU MSU Rutgers Maryland NW Iowa UW Neb PSU Minnesota Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbmhoosier Posted November 3, 2021 Report Share Posted November 3, 2021 Bozich not high on IU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdhoosier Posted November 3, 2021 Report Share Posted November 3, 2021 2 hours ago, IUFLA said: Indiana Teams they play twice in the B1G Nebraska Wisconsin Penn State Purdue Minnesota Maryland Ohio State Play once @ Home Michigan Illinois Rutgers Our schedule is looking better every day. I wouldn’t trade it for anybody else’s. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slojoe Posted November 3, 2021 Report Share Posted November 3, 2021 7 hours ago, HoosierDom said: I didn't grow up an IU fan, so I don't have the ingrained Purdue hatred that a lot of people here have, but I still think they're overrated. I will be surprised if they compete for the BIG title. I think OSU and Michigan will be at the top. By tournament time MSU and IU will be right there with them, but both of us will lose a few winnable games early in the conference, so we won't have a shot at the regular season crown. I agree with you on Illinois - I'd say they're a bubble team. They'll make it, but not by that much. Northwestern is more of a true bubble team and might not make it. We can take care of your lack of ingrained Purdue hatred. But PU will be very good this year. Think they only lack a PG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted November 3, 2021 Report Share Posted November 3, 2021 Purdue Indiana Ohio St. Michigan Illinois Maryland Michigan St. Northwestern Rutgers Wisconsin Iowa Nebraska Penn State Minnesota 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier51 Posted November 3, 2021 Report Share Posted November 3, 2021 9 hours ago, IUFLA said: Just thought I'd see what the prevailing thought on the B1G season is...here's what I came up with... Ohio State Purdue Indiana Michigan Maryland Northwestern Illinois Michigan State Rutgers Wisconsin Iowa Nebraska Penn State Minnesota Anybody else? Good list, the few changes i would make is move Michigan up to second, and have Turdue and the Hoosiers as 3a and 3b then move the MSU up to 5th and Illini up to 6th. Like you i think the Badgers and Hawkeyes have a big dropoff this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted November 3, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Hoosier51 said: Good list, the few changes i would make is move Michigan up to second, and have Turdue and the Hoosiers as 3a and 3b then move the MSU up to 5th and Illini up to 6th. Like you i think the Badgers and Hawkeyes have a big dropoff this season. I'm just not sold on Michigan. I know Dickinson is good, but he has to be within 8 feet of the basket, and Smith, Livers, Wagner, and Brown were good enough shooters to get him the room he needed to operate. Someone linked an article that said something to the effect that Juwan Howard had proven himself to be one of the best coaches in college basketball...I think 2 years, one of which he finished 10-10 in the conference, is way too short a sample size to make a proclamation like that... I know he has a great freshman class and transfer Devante Jones coming in, but I'm skeptical that they can take on the load the 4 guys I mentioned above provided... Edited November 3, 2021 by IUFLA 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier51 Posted November 3, 2021 Report Share Posted November 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, IUFLA said: I'm just not sold on Michigan. I know Dickinson is good, but he has to be within 8 feet of the basket, and Smith, Livers, Wagner, and Brown were good enough shooters to get him the room he needed to operate. Someone linked an article that said something to the effect that Juwan Howard had proven himself to be one of the best coaches in college basketball...I think 2 years, one of which he finished 10-10 in the conference, is way too short a sample size to make a proclamation like that... I know he has a great freshman class and transfer Devante Jones coming in, but I'm skeptical that they can take on the load the 4 guys I mentioned above provided... Yeah there is definitely questions with Michigan. Their season depends on how the freshman can adjust to college ball. 👍 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier51 Posted November 3, 2021 Report Share Posted November 3, 2021 4 hours ago, dbmhoosier said: Bozich not high on IU. I think some people, especially the media are sleeping on the Hoosiers because of the unknown. My thing with IU is they have possibly the best player in the league in Trayce, experience in the backcourt with Xavier, Parker and Rob, plus incoming shooting with Kopp. Then you add in Bates who looks like the real deal and Geronimo who i think has a ton of potential plus Race and Durr, the Hoosiers have as much talent as anyone in the B1G. And that is without even mentioning the untapped potential of Lander to go along with the other youngsters. Personally i think the Hoosiers have the talent to win the B1G, the only reason i would put then a little bit lower is because of the transition to a new coaching staff. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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