NCHoosier32 Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 1 minute ago, IU Scott said: He wasn't a top 3 player in his class but was the top PG I was thinking he was. Do you know what he was in his class overall before he reclassed? I don't, but am curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 1 minute ago, NCHoosier32 said: I was thinking he was. Do you know what he was in his class overall before he reclassed? I don't, but am curious. 14th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUwins0708 Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 26 minutes ago, IUFLA said: Do you honestly believe that? I personally think Dakich would swim through 50 miles of sewer water to get and interview for the IU job... I do, he’s got the perfect job making good money and he can be the coach the day after games on the radio. Would I be totally shocked if he coached again, no. I just don’t think it will happen. I personally would love him as an assistant coach though. Throw out all the crap you hear on the radio and the man knows basketball and would be a good fit at IU as an assistant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parakeet Jones Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 30 minutes ago, dbmhoosier said: Alford wouldn't be my first choice but I'm a big believer that certain coaches just fit certain jobs well. He's an IU legend and knows the B1G and the State of Indiana as well as anyone. Who's to say he wouldn't have a lot of success here? You summed up my feelings perfectly. Like you, he wouldn’t be my first choice. However if he came here and was successful I can’t say I’d be shocked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 1 minute ago, IUwins0708 said: I do, he’s got the perfect job making good money and he can be the coach the day after games on the radio. Would I be totally shocked if he coached again, no. I just don’t think it will happen. I personally would love him as an assistant coach though. Throw out all the crap you hear on the radio and the man knows basketball and would be a good fit at IU as an assistant. Leary said Dakich can be a dick but all the good coaches are. He also said Dan was one of the best coaches he ever played for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, IU Scott said: 14th This says 11th "Lander is a class of 2021 recruit but is considering reclassifying into the 2020 class, per Jeff Borzello of ESPN. He is currently considered the No. 11 overall player and top-ranked point guard in 2021, per 247Sports." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 Just now, IUFLA said: This says 11th "Lander is a class of 2021 recruit but is considering reclassifying into the 2020 class, per Jeff Borzello of ESPN. He is currently considered the No. 11 overall player and top-ranked point guard in 2021, per 247Sports." I found an article from an Evansville news paper and it said 14th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 3 minutes ago, IUwins0708 said: I do, he’s got the perfect job making good money and he can be the coach the day after games on the radio. Would I be totally shocked if he coached again, no. I just don’t think it will happen. I personally would love him as an assistant coach though. Throw out all the crap you hear on the radio and the man knows basketball and would be a good fit at IU as an assistant. I don't think he'd take any other job, but IU? Yeah, he'd listen... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUwins0708 Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, IUFLA said: I don't think he'd take any other job, but IU? Yeah, he'd listen... He’d definitely listen, who wouldn’t as an alum and former player. Just personally don’t think he’d take it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zuckerkorn Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 43 minutes ago, IU Scott said: Listening to Todd Leary and he has said that a lot of former players are disgusted with what they are seeing on the court. They've played "good basketball". I've watched " good basketball". I, too, am disgusted by what I see on the court. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, Zuckerkorn said: They've played "good basketball". I've watched " good basketball". I, too, am disgusted by what I see on the court. Since I have not seen good basketball lately last night I watched a great game from 1992. We played at home against PU and beat them 106-65 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 14 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said: Our ability to take top 50 recruits and make them look like they don’t belong on a basketball court is impressive. Don't mean to go at you, but blanket statements like this drive me up a wall. The majority of IU's top 50 recruits the last 10-12 years have delivered. The issue is we don't get enough of them. I'm going 100% off memory, but I'm trying to think of a top 50 recruit the last 12 years that didn't play to his ranking or at least close to it, or if one didn't I'm trying to think of one that it wasn't because of injury? All I can come up with is Jeremy Hollowell. Creek and Jerome Hunter are because of injuries. Everyone else was either close, met or exceeded their ranking. Watford, Creek (before injuries), Zeller, Yogi, Vonleh, Troy Williams, JBJ, RoJo (not sure if he was top 50, and you could argue he could have been better), Langford, TJD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 Just now, BGleas said: Don't mean to go at you, but blanket statements like this drive me up a wall. The majority of IU's top 50 recruits the last 10-12 years have delivered. The issue is we don't get enough of them. I'm going 100% off memory, but I'm trying to think of a top 50 recruit the last 12 years that didn't play to his ranking or at least close to it, or if one didn't I'm trying to think of one that it wasn't because of injury? All I can come up with is Jeremy Hollowell. Creek and Jerome Hunter are because of injuries. Everyone else was either close, met or exceeded their ranking. Watford, Creek (before injuries), Zeller, Yogi, Vonleh, Troy Williams, JBJ, RoJo (not sure if he was top 50, and you could argue he could have been better), Langford, TJD. How about Hanner Perea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, BGleas said: Don't mean to go at you, but blanket statements like this drive me up a wall. The majority of IU's top 50 recruits the last 10-12 years have delivered. The issue is we don't get enough of them. I'm going 100% off memory, but I'm trying to think of a top 50 recruit the last 12 years that didn't play to his ranking or at least close to it, or if one didn't I'm trying to think of one that it wasn't because of injury? All I can come up with is Jeremy Hollowell. Creek and Jerome Hunter are because of injuries. Everyone else was either close, met or exceeded their ranking. Watford, Creek (before injuries), Zeller, Yogi, Vonleh, Troy Williams, JBJ, RoJo (not sure if he was top 50, and you could argue he could have been better), Langford, TJD. I'd throw Hanner Perea in there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 Just now, IUFLA said: I'd throw Hanner Perea in there He wasn't top 50. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 Just now, BGleas said: He wasn't top 50. At one time he was a 5 star player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 1 minute ago, IU Scott said: At one time he was a 5 star player Ok, early on his sophomore year because of athleticism. By the time he was senior he was not a 5* or a top 50 recruit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotIThatLives Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 53 minutes ago, dbmhoosier said: Alford wouldn't be my first choice but I'm a big believer that certain coaches just fit certain jobs well. He's an IU legend and knows the B1G and the State of Indiana as well as anyone. Who's to say he wouldn't have a lot of success here? It's not even the mediocre jobs that he has done. To me he's just no longer a likeable person. His arrogance is unfounded. Maybe one thing that has happened with him being run out of LA is he was humbled a bit and maybe refound himself as a person. Money and esteem can screw people. There have been lots of stories about the way he treated people poorly all the way from bloomington to Iowa and stuff about him not being liked in LA. There has to be something to it. It's sad because he used to tour the state doing stuff like fellowship of Christian athlete's basketball camps, or something along those lines. People do change. The past few days I said I'd quit IU if we hired him but truth is I would give him a chance. I certainly would be less that thrilled though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 8 minutes ago, BGleas said: He wasn't top 50. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 3 minutes ago, IUFLA said: Thanks, was off on that one. I remembered him dropping to around 80. So we have 2. Hollowell and Perea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotIThatLives Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 29 minutes ago, IUwins0708 said: I do, he’s got the perfect job making good money and he can be the coach the day after games on the radio. Would I be totally shocked if he coached again, no. I just don’t think it will happen. I personally would love him as an assistant coach though. Throw out all the crap you hear on the radio and the man knows basketball and would be a good fit at IU as an assistant. I'll lay money that once Andrew gets a head coaching job DD will be at the very least in the shadows. It may be another 10 -15 years and I'm not talking big ten. Naia, d2, or low low d1. Who knows. He's put himself around Beilein and Holtmann. And is already an assistant at Elon. Yes they are d1. Working under a former Ohio St assistant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotIThatLives Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 18 minutes ago, IU Scott said: How about Hanner Perea Perea was at one point top 10 maybe summer going into junior year and then slipped more and more as people realized he was just an athlete and not a basketball player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
go_iu_bb Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 1 hour ago, NCHoosier32 said: Not that I don't agree, but I'm holding out hope so much on this one. Had to be a reason he was what #2 or #3 in the 2021 class? He does look very quick and crafty with passing, etc. I'm reaching for sure, but for once being optimistic that another year will make all the difference. I don't believe he was that high. I think he was in the 10-15 range or possibly just inside the top 10. Those are still very solid rankings and players rankled that high usually play more than he does their freshman season. He was the #1 PG in the 2021 class which might be what you were thinking of with the top 3. Even after reclassifying, he was a top 30 5* recruit and one of the top PG in that class. 25-30 seem to be more hit or miss on their immediate impact in college. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brass Cannon Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 21 minutes ago, BGleas said: Don't mean to go at you, but blanket statements like this drive me up a wall. The majority of IU's top 50 recruits the last 10-12 years have delivered. The issue is we don't get enough of them. I'm going 100% off memory, but I'm trying to think of a top 50 recruit the last 12 years that didn't play to his ranking or at least close to it, or if one didn't I'm trying to think of one that it wasn't because of injury? All I can come up with is Jeremy Hollowell. Creek and Jerome Hunter are because of injuries. Everyone else was either close, met or exceeded their ranking. Watford, Creek (before injuries), Zeller, Yogi, Vonleh, Troy Williams, JBJ, RoJo (not sure if he was top 50, and you could argue he could have been better), Langford, TJD. Was making the comment more about Archie. Hunter and Lander look like 3 stars out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 1 minute ago, NotIThatLives said: Perea was at one point top 10 maybe summer going into junior year and then slipped more and more as people realized he was just an athlete and not a basketball player. With hands of 20 gauge steel... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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