Hippopotamo Posted March 13, 2021 Report Share Posted March 13, 2021 21 minutes ago, BGleas said: Has there ever been a case of a school firing their coach in March and hiring an interim coach for a year? Has that ever happened? Louisville did that but that’s extenuating circumstances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted March 13, 2021 Report Share Posted March 13, 2021 33 minutes ago, 8Bucks said: That works this year not waiting till next year to decide. When the season ends in the summer it certainly can push things to next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted March 13, 2021 Report Share Posted March 13, 2021 Just now, Hippopotamo said: Louisville did that but that’s extenuating circumstances. That was in October right before the season. The question was a coach fired right at the end of the season and the school basically sitting out the hiring season and waiting a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feathery Posted March 13, 2021 Report Share Posted March 13, 2021 6 minutes ago, BGleas said: Right, so not the same thing. Tressel resigned under unique circumstances after the college football hiring season. I've never heard of a coach getting fired right after the season and then the school basically sitting out the hiring season for a year. Except it’s OSU football. They can hire who they want when they want. They didn’t have to wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted March 13, 2021 Report Share Posted March 13, 2021 Just now, Feathery said: Except it’s OSU football. They can hire who they want when they want. They do Apparently they can't though. But again, I've heard of a school firing their coach at the end of a season and then sitting out hiring season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted March 13, 2021 Report Share Posted March 13, 2021 35 minutes ago, IU Scott said: Maybe that is your opinion but in my opinion the candidates would be the same. You can't say an opinion is false but your opinon is correct I can absolutely say it's objectively false when it is objectively false. You didn't only say candidates, and considering the very top person at IU won't be the same in a year your statement was wrong. It's not the same people making the decision at IU in a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feathery Posted March 13, 2021 Report Share Posted March 13, 2021 1 minute ago, BGleas said: Apparently they can't though. But again, I've heard of a school firing their coach at the end of a season and then sitting out hiring season. I don’t think it’s a smart move to wait it out. It kills recruiting. Ohio State had its worst season in a long time under an interim. Recruiting would have fallen off if they hadn’t hired an all time great coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted March 13, 2021 Report Share Posted March 13, 2021 36 minutes ago, Feathery said: We aren’t going with an up and comer. So it’s the same pool of nba and power 5 coaches with a former player as the backup plan. It’s objectively false to say a move this year is for the sake of making a move when it’s the worst stretch of IU basketball in 100 years. A change is needed bc Archie has failed. Hiring the right coach will be Dolson this year and Dolson next year. Dolson’s advisors this year with be the same as next year. The post I quoted wasn't just about the candidates, it was about the people at IU. IU will have a new President that couldn't possibly be less friendly towards athletics than the one we currently have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted March 13, 2021 Report Share Posted March 13, 2021 21 minutes ago, Feathery said: Football. Ohio State Tressell, Fickell, Meyer. Tressell got fired at the end of May, which would be like firing a basketball coach in August. It's a completely different situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8Bucks Posted March 13, 2021 Report Share Posted March 13, 2021 5 minutes ago, KoB2011 said: When the season ends in the summer it certainly can push things to next year. Right so that sounds like a maybe next year. Not sure I would sit around and wait on a maybe next year reply. If they have decided Archie is not the guy and a tier 1 guy is not available you go on to tier 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feathery Posted March 13, 2021 Report Share Posted March 13, 2021 1 minute ago, KoB2011 said: The post I quoted wasn't just about the candidates, it was about the people at IU. IU will have a new President that couldn't possibly be less friendly towards athletics than the one we currently have. The AD will make the hire. If he needs a new president to make a hire, then IU is in worse off than any of us imagine. The candidates will be the same. The booster money is already there. The person leading the search in the AD will be the same. Again, this isn’t a change for the sake of change. This is a change for the sake of the program. Literally the worst stretch in a century. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLDIUFAN Posted March 13, 2021 Report Share Posted March 13, 2021 If we are looking at 3 open scholarships do you think with Archie’s current status as possible getting fired he will be able to fill them. A new coach coming in would maybe have a better chance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted March 13, 2021 Report Share Posted March 13, 2021 1 minute ago, Feathery said: The AD will make the hire. If he needs a new president to make a hire, then IU is in worse off than any of us imagine. The candidates will be the same. The booster money is already there. The person leading the search in the AD will be the same. Again, this isn’t a change for the sake of change. This is a change for the sake of the program. Literally the worst stretch in a century. Ah how silly of me to think the President could factor into a basketball hire. That's certainly never happened at IU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbmhoosier Posted March 13, 2021 Report Share Posted March 13, 2021 3 minutes ago, KoB2011 said: Ah how silly of me to think the President could factor into a basketball hire. That's certainly never happened at IU. Hi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted March 13, 2021 Report Share Posted March 13, 2021 Serious question for everyone who thinks nothing could be different in a year: how many of you would be willing to change jobs, uproot your family, and move across the country after the year we've just had? How many of you would be more open to that after we've returned to more normalcy in the next year? I know for me personally, I would be significantly more change averse right now then I'll likely be in a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brass Cannon Posted March 13, 2021 Report Share Posted March 13, 2021 1 minute ago, KoB2011 said: Serious question for everyone who thinks nothing could be different in a year: how many of you would be willing to change jobs, uproot your family, and move across the country after the year we've just had? How many of you would be more open to that after we've returned to more normalcy in the next year? I know for me personally, I would be significantly more change averse right now then I'll likely be in a year. Your assuming basketball coaches have normalcy in their lives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted March 13, 2021 Report Share Posted March 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, KoB2011 said: Serious question for everyone who thinks nothing could be different in a year: how many of you would be willing to change jobs, uproot your family, and move across the country after the year we've just had? How many of you would be more open to that after we've returned to more normalcy in the next year? I know for me personally, I would be significantly more change averse right now then I'll likely be in a year. You might be correct if we were talking about last March but not this year. Things aren't totally back to normal but with the vaccines you can see the light at the end of the tunnel. I would think coaches this year would know by the time next seasons rolls around things will probably be back to normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierJax Posted March 13, 2021 Report Share Posted March 13, 2021 4 minutes ago, dbmhoosier said: Hi. Wow...what a threesome 🤦♂️🙄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted March 13, 2021 Report Share Posted March 13, 2021 1 minute ago, IU Scott said: You might be correct if we were talking about last March but not this year. Things aren't totally back to normal but with the vaccines you can see the light at the end of the tunnel. I would think coaches this year would know by the time next seasons rolls around things will probably be back to normal. I think last March would have been much easier, we had no idea what we were getting into. After the past year? I think a lot of people would be wary of taking on a significant life event like that. People are pretty emotionally, physically, spiritually, whatever other way you can think of, spent right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobSaccamanno Posted March 13, 2021 Report Share Posted March 13, 2021 14 minutes ago, KoB2011 said: The post I quoted wasn't just about the candidates, it was about the people at IU. IU will have a new President that couldn't possibly be less friendly towards athletics than the one we currently have. I was trying to illustrate this last weekend, to no avail. I was trying to show that we need to be playing chess, not checkers. IMO, the dumbest thing we can do is fire Archie and then hire whatever is in front of our face. No, we need a well thought out plan, even if it means waiting a year. It’s patently false to say we will have the exact same candidates next year for sure. There are situations that can materialize in the meantime. When I tried to illustrate this before, people argued the details and lost the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted March 13, 2021 Report Share Posted March 13, 2021 6 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said: Your assuming basketball coaches have normalcy in their lives. No, I'm assuming basketball coaches are people. You all are assuming they're not. The notion that basketball coaches don't have the same personal considerations all of us have when changing jobs, or that a university doesn't have the same considerations as a business when making decisions, is honestly silly. Do you guys really believe something with this much at stake operates purely in the form of a silly childs game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbmhoosier Posted March 13, 2021 Report Share Posted March 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, HoosierJax said: Wow...what a threesome 🤦♂️🙄 The 3 blind mice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbmhoosier Posted March 13, 2021 Report Share Posted March 13, 2021 1 minute ago, Shapopojoe said: Which leftist genius gets the nod for the next President? What do you mean? They're gonna hire someone who knows what they're doing this time. I promise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbmhoosier Posted March 13, 2021 Report Share Posted March 13, 2021 8 hours ago, HoosierJax said: https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/columnists/gregg-doyel/2017/03/25/doyel-fred-glass-knocks-out-park-archie-miller/99620772/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted March 13, 2021 Report Share Posted March 13, 2021 This from Matt Norlander of CBS • Let's start with some coaching-cycle scuttlebutt. You better believe there are schools sending out feelers to people connected to coaches to politely gauge their interest in any potential openings. In talking to various sources in the past week, here's my impression as of today with power-conference gigs that have speculation around them and expectations in the coming days and weeks. Jobs I've been told are definitely opening: DePaul, Minnesota. Jobs I've been told are definitely not opening: Marquette, Miami, Notre Dame. Jobs I've been told will probably not open: Indiana, Kansas State, South Carolina. Job I've been told is more likely to open than not: Iowa State. A unique situation no one can predict: Arizona. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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