iuswingman

12 minutes ago, btownqb said:

The way the roster is set currently, I see Goode regularly playing the 4. Who else is going to get those minutes, based on the roster? 

MR/MM are the only 4s on that roster and we aren't recruiting one. 

The backup big to ballo may also play some 4 as well.  But I'd rather see Goode there.

31 minutes ago, IU Scott said:

I would take what Coyle says with a grain of salt. He has been wrong so many times so I wouldn't take it to seriously 

All out of salt.

Woohoo done deal get er done.  Lol

hopefully we can finish off with another big and guard for the final 2 spots.

8 minutes ago, btownqb said:

You chose to respond to the 5-second ending of that video. You completely glossed over the fact that, Goode hasn't committed anywhere, at all, and Bardo was literally acting like it was a done deal/had been announced... that was the "story", that's why it was posted....  

So?

I'm allowed to have an opinion on the end of the video.

I'm done responding but you guys are doing nothing but trying to silence opposing views and it's rather pathetic.

1 minute ago, ledies22 said:

So is Luke Goode official? I have seen a couple of things, but nothing from he, himself. Or any of the other Major outlets.

Nothing on his twitter yet.  

13 minutes ago, Tom White said:

Oddly enough, I thought the discussion in this forum was supposed to be "Portal/Late Decommits IU Is Interested In"

So perhaps it is the "conversation" that is out of place?

All I did was respond to the video that was posted in this thread.

I'm sure you are busy typing to the other participants in the coach conversation that their posts don't belong here either   I know you didn't single out my post just to silence an opposing opinion  

Just now, Maedhros said:

No shot at Goodman is unneccessary. If you felt Bardo was talking about you, that might be a tell.

Never claimed not to be a critic of Woodson.  If my view bothers you then ignore my posts and move along. 

2 minutes ago, Maedhros said:

Huh, can't imagine why anyone would feel the impulse to dunk on comments like this...

Brother, there won't be any games until November. Good things are happening right now. We might have a dynamic, playmaking backcourt for the first time since Yogi left. If you think the very real shift in how Woodson & staff are recruiting and building their roster is just donors buying recruits, I'm not sure what Indiana Basketball could do to make you happy this spring, or summer. Maybe sit things out for a while. Replying back to downplay every piece of good news that might happen over the next six months sounds exhausting.

Yes mother.

I'm responding to the idiot in the video that took an unnecessary shot at critics of Woodson.

If you're going to miss the point, then you might want to sit out of the conversation.

8 minutes ago, bluegrassIU said:

Ummmmm, hit the HSN homepage. There you will see at least one, maybe two threads to debate the love, hate and indifference of Mile Woodson.

It's not that complicated guys. Thos is strictly about recruits. Not if Coach Woodson is going make them hall of famers or eat their babies.

Read thread title, post accordingly. Lather, rinse, repeat.   

To be fair, the video posted overlapped both topics.

17 minutes ago, IUFLA said:

BTW, the most interesting thing Bardo said, at least to me, was "Bryson Tucker may well be the best player on this team."

And I'd take his word on it over Goodman and those of his ilk any day...

I hope that is true and that it means he is crazy good rather than the other players are just bad.   I'm cautiously optimistic about our talent on the roster but keeping expectations in check.

4 minutes ago, ledies22 said:

God forbid we get a little excited about the amount of talent we have brought in this off season. Shame on us. 

You missed the point.

No one has issue with people being excited.  It's the premature "i told you so" bs by the guy in the video.

The only criticism of Woodson that was addressed was fixing the lack of guard depth.

31 minutes ago, IUFLA said:

 

It's so dumb to go after people that criticized Mike Woodson simply because donors bought IU some transfers.

The criticisms of Mike Woodson haven't changed just because the talent has increased on paper.  Show it on the court this fall and we can hopefully start to erase some of the criticism.

48 minutes ago, Bowhunter said:

 

That’s Woody’s scrapped offense from previous seasons. 

we can only hope.

30 minutes ago, Indykev said:

Goode is done.

It's all goode

#13 is big indeed jj

22 minutes ago, Victobmyboy said:

Last year we could’ve used it on anyone better than our backcourt but this year we aren’t getting anyone else better than what we have. Think about it. This year is a completely different scenario. You don’t just throw it out there. I’d rather a walk on in his senior year get it than some random dude who has zero chance. 

You never know how the year will play out and what injuries might occur.   There is no reason to purposely go a player short.

48 minutes ago, Maedhros said:

Because if launching a petition is your honest reaction to something as trivial as a basketball season, then in the immortal words of Anthony Leal, you guys gotta chill.

A petition is nothing more than a count of people that share an opinion in hopes that it will help them be heard.  As soon as the mega donors backed Woodson, the decision was made.

People who think they can silence opposing opinion should chill.

3 minutes ago, Maedhros said:

The "true fans" comment was about an as if-the-shoe-fits moment as I can remember. By and large, the people I saw take exception were those already quite vocal that they were out on Woodson. Including a certain host of a postgame podcast.

I'll agree the comment didn't need to be said, at least not by the head coach, who needs to be above that level of discourse. But I also know we had fans literally creating petitions on change.org and emailing the BOT to call for Woodson's job. Pitchforks and torches were out for program legend Quinn Buckner, and even Armond Hill was catching strays just for being caught on camera next to Woodson during games. Wild stuff, and deserving of being called out, if not by that person in that moment. If anyone feels targeted by Woodson's "true fans" comments, it might be worth taking a moment of introspection and asking yourself why.

I have no problem at all with Galloway and Leal responding the way they did, in that moment with the biggest platform they'll have. 

So what that people were signing a petition and done with Woodson?   Supporting or not supporting woodson as coach has no bearing on whether you're a true IU basketball fan.  Both sides want what they think is best for the program.

So yes, it's a load of crap to pull out the "true fan" card.

14 minutes ago, bluegrassIU said:

It's funny how everybody is a victim. Nobody is saying you are not allowed to have an opinion. But if you post that opinion publicly, people are going to respond. That's just the way it is.

I wouldn't say nobody, especially my examples from the facebook group (although think the "true fan" attack gets thrown around at some point or another on every board/group/forum).    I think exaggerating the other side's opinion to make it appear unreasonable is arguably trying to squash an opinion.

14 minutes ago, bluegrassIU said:

The problem comes when people care more about their opinion, and being "right" than they actually care about the program itself. It gets nonsensical.

And to be clear, I am not referring to you with that part, just a jumping off point for my opinion.

On another note, my opinion of Leal and coach's comment about certain fans is blown out of proportion.

Everybody is assuming they were referring to all fans that voice frustration or dusagreent.

My belief is it was geared more towards the lunatic vocal fringe that attacks players, makes it deeply personal. That's my opinion.

I do agree it was better off not being said at all, no argument there. 

True, Leal could have been focused on just the crazier of the fans that cross the line.  

I think another possibility is Woodson's inability to take any criticism without lashing back may be rubbing off on his players.  He could be stirring the pot. 

9 minutes ago, Victobmyboy said:

Why? Very common. Is Dan Hurley dumb? Kansas too. Why spend it for a nobody. 

because that nobody has a much higher chance of becoming somebody than that empty chair.  Plus, it's another player for practice, one that would presumably be better than the walk-ons.

And whose to say #13 would be the least talented of the scholarship players?    Maybe said player is good enough to crack the rotation and push someone else down.

Maybe we can finally get a package deal to work with Adams and Haralson.

35 minutes ago, kyhoosier29 said:

And some people struggle to see a different view and respectfully discuss topics sometimes, right?  

I doubt any of your over exaggerations are accurate, but carry on.

A lot of people just don't think people with different opinions should be able to voice said opinion.

I'm in a facebook group for IU fans and not sure how many times you get the "you're not a coach"  hogwash response.  Apparently having experience as a coach is required in order to post...well only if you're critical.  If you like Woodson then no coaching experience necessary.   Guess we can thank Leal for leading that charge.  Of course, that's mixed in with the "you're not a true fan" commentary.  

On 4/20/2024 at 10:18 PM, Zlinedavid said:

Woodson could win #6 and people would complain that we weren’t undefeated. 
 

We could go undefeated and people would complain that we got lucky too many times. The wins weren’t convincing enough. 
 
We could go undefeated and win every game by 30 and the same people would complain that it wasn’t the “old B10 home and home schedule” so it doesn’t count as much. And we had more than 2 players that weren’t from Indiana. 🙄

 

Translation: some people aren’t happy unless they’re complaining, and some people will never be totally happy with IU basketball until the remains of RMK are reanimated and the calendar says 1978 again. 

That's about as over the top as saying we could lose every game and people would still be on here saying how awesome Woodson is and he just needs more time.

Just now, Hoosier4Life53 said:

That why I think it’s important to land Goode over Anderson, because he’s an in-state guy. If we have a successful season next year as most expect, he can be a big help recruiting other in-state guys like Sisley. 

I think the sisley train would have already left the station one way or another by then.

so a more under control XJ?