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Great insight there.

Ding ding- look the Mike Vernon discord is a joke. It is a pure con and he just makes things up. He has had 7 or 8 “facts” been proven wrong and he just keeps changing the story. now, is someone on KU staff giving him info. Sure. I bet Rabby knew too but kept quiet because he knew it would be on Instagram within the hour from MM. Zach was almost in unison with instagram post. The issue with Kansas staff leaking is they only know what they know. They probably did believe he was done after visit, told Vernon that and he gave that out. But we were told Ledlum was too. the difference is they believe Vernon like the Bible and just keep running with his newest “theory” Their entire confidence is because he told them MM committed on the visit and was not doing more visits. They have stuck with that from day one because “we are Kansas” The worst part, they will think it was right if they land him but he was not decided as of today. Multiple people with different sources have said that with first hand info.

Going to try and go at this one more time. Not to be right. Don’t care. I am trying to help those fans that believe we “match up” - we don’t. Does that mean we can’t win recruits, he’ll no. But our staff fights a very up hill battle and it is not just Kansas. Pick an SEC school, etc I don’t believe this affects this recruitment much but I would sure like it to stop being an issue. Sounds like the athletic department finally realized this. Watch this at about 8 min in

Where did you hear this because other than St John’s guys believing it to be the case (like they did MM) I haven’t seen anything like that.

I have yet to read anything pro KU that wasn’t fabricated and easy to prove where it came from. Ironically, I think KU crazy fans have repeated this crap so much the Rivals guys and any “smoke” for them was from pure lies. it is funny to me how so many of them can’t see if the original rumor was true then why do they need 5 news ones? Now the are excited because a fake leak? But he already committed in Lawerence? Every time I go back over this, every single sign points to IU for me. Every time there is another tidbit of verifiable info, it seems to point to IU as well. so I am 99.9% IU. That is where logic leads me.

Believe it is 4 IU guys and zero Kansas.

it for sure is but when they follow back, like Ledlum did Tenn guys the morning before he committed, that is little different. Really surprised to see him follow back this late in the “mystery phase”

So I looked at this a little more. she never liked any of the Kansas visit pics. Liked a few of the IU ones. Then yes, 2 Kansas replies likes followed by another IU one today. If this was something, honestly, she might have been trying to “balance” things as she never liked any Kansas posts to date.’ also, and found this even more interesting, guess who she just very recently followed on Twitter - Carmelo 🤔 yes, none of this could mean anything but just as much positive IU stuff there.

Didn’t see your post before my other reply, yes, that guy is a mess. He was wrong all last week on Hunter and MM but he just uses general excuses to reposition it and acts like he knew. He isn’t even good at it. Low- rent con artist who charges for his info. Just last week on MM - he committed on the visit - won’t go to IU- commitment Wednesday announced - wants his own day, will now commit day after Dickinson - didn’t commit but still won’t visit IU- Kansas full lock - he is only visiting IU because he handlers want to get more NiL out of Kansas Yes, you are 100% right- their entire fanbase believes they are good here because of him. It is crazy to watch.

That guy is so far from an insider it is sick. He is a weird Kansas fan who charges people for his info. He is wrong all the time too. Just this past week the k-state assistant basically threatened to kick his ass for taking feet pics. No, not joking

You can’t. If you believe that then Bradon Smith was top 10 amoung all NCAA players 😂 IU does fine here. This is not an issue for this guy but this doesn’t really help sell anything.

And she liked plenty of IU ones too. Means nothing fyi.. the whole staff is following his mom now and jsut happened. Could just be a push but usually they don’t follow parents until done 🤷‍♂️

That is only 1 store. Not relevant unfortunately

Apparently relationships, NIL, playing time etc don’t matter. The agent is deciding so 🤷‍♂️

Since I can still see good old Indy when people quote him. This is soooo far from how most top recruits decide. Relationship is the given and required. You are not going anywhere without the relationship built. But once you have 3 or 4 schools you feel comfortable with…. Then it is about - How he fits, playing time, how can you get me to NBA fast, how will you develop me, NIL beyond what I can already do myself or any school and yes facilities, etc are 1 part of all these factors. See Kentucky going nuts over Hunter comments in another thread (it ALL matters) In this case, personal feeling, I think everyone is overthinking it. It was always Louisville in the beginning but he added more visits when things didn’t go well with them (missed visit or something) however, I truly believe IU outdoes Louisville on all fronts for this particular recruit.

Exactly, this is 100% what he said he would do. We have same shot as beginning and only improved odds with a great visit. i will say, if you are searching for something to make you feel better about it. Slater is only posting what family wants. They sent him all that stuff and he sent 4 tweets on IU visit. That is way more than the other 2. Just saying, they were loving it and told him to send it out.

I didn’t read it that way but I am sure some of those quotes were before this weekend. Doubtful they spoke to the HS coach on Sunday. He also didn’t even say much. St Johns is Nike right? Don’t see how they fit.

Agreed, he said he would all along. maybe I am crazy (likely) but feel he whole recruitment has actually been easy to read still think IU has always made the most sense on this one and they sure didn’t hurt themselves.

I mean, same thing. Point was, it wasn’t the school.

they do some form of them every visit but not this deep but that is IU staff trying to make it special. He sent them to Slater who did. However, these guys are not Google. They don’t get paid for clicks. It is just to make them feel special etc. try recruiting without doing that. The kids enjoy them and everything matters in a tight fight.

Probably Mike Vernon or their 247 guy. Who by the way have been wrong all week on this. First they said he wouldn’t visit IU and already committed. Then it was he will announce Thursday, then it was he wanted his own day apart from Hunter D and would Friday. Then it was he is just visiting IU for fun. Then it was he is committed but his “handlers” want him to visit IU. They know nothing. Slater is the only guy who probably does. if they are right by a guess, that doesn’t bode well for them. He set Lousville date during or right after Kansas. If he visits IU and now he is deciding 🤔

I think we agree on some of this but no, I strongly feel they will need to address this. I don’t think it eventually becomes “they are all good.” You can’t have those schools far outclassing IU. You need to be equal to them and then you sell why IU is different. it is sales 101, eliminate the reasons for them to say no. Maintain what makes you unique. It is like selling high end luxury goods, exotic cars etc. you have to maintain the unique brand imagine that makes you distinct. There is actually a great book on this called “The collapse of distinction” - brands and companies can’t allow themselves to fall into sameness. This is how you compete for the top talent moving forward consistently. All areas that matter you want to be considered the best at. Those that feel “how much is enough” We have too many advantages to let this even be a conversation.

Hey, trying to be more well rounded for guys like you with different opinions. Just wanted to check you a little as you seem just as hardened as my views but just polar opposite. I am just of the opinion some of it matters and what is the point of this board during the off-season if not to speculate. I think we all know many don’t believe much of it but do we need that reminder they don’t after every post with “news, rumors, tweet, etc” 🤷‍♂️ edit and add - appreciate the response

I’ll let you 2 argue that (don’t feel he was doing that) but is that not exactly what you were doing with your M&M joke? Disparaging me because I choose to read into things?

Yes, that might be the biggest tea leaf you can read here if you want to read into anything. They are sending him this stuff. It even says “from the Mgbako family.” yes, he is very connected but on this one he is connected specifically to his family. He even went off on Adam Z.? for posting the visit list as the family didn’t want it public. So he posts 4 tweets today only with their blessing. he is also connecting with more people on social than the zero he did at Kansas fwiw