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5 minutes ago, btownqb said:

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Oooook

0-3 1 rebound and you're telling me he's fine lol

You can absolutely sit him and put Lander in. Rob hasn't scored and turned the ball over and was not the reason we surged back.

We are talking about a senior guard.

I hope this is the game people realize rob is not playable

3 minutes ago, KoB2011 said:

I think it’s got to be situational. They both had some really good moments at their strengths tonight. 

I would probably agree with this but it seems like situationally Rob loses a lot of those minutes to the majority of situations. He just can't score. Its actually unbelievable to me that Lander is passing him in offensive capability after the all time horrendous season Lander had last year.

I do see an effort from Rob for the 50/50 balls and generally giving a good effort though. I think he's just limited by his own skill. Again, he's not going anywhere so hopefully he can improve and I'd be happy to be wrong about him.

Just now, kyhoosier29 said:

Understand, but I thought Rob was phenomenal for us on D in the second half setting the temp and really ran the floor as the PG helping us get back in the game. 

Yep. I think you still have a point. We're obviously still going to play Rob and I don't think thats some grave mistake either. But the fact is we are a very good defensive team as a whole and Rob's only strength being good defense is not enough for me to think he should have that backup PG spot. Let's hope Lander can keep continuing to prove himself and see what happens.

5 minutes ago, kyhoosier29 said:

One shot by Lander solidifies that for you? He was poor at everything else. Didn’t get a shot at the end of the 1st OT bc of him and lost at the end of the second OT bc of an idiotic foul. Not even mentioning the ball that went through his hands. 

yeah lander did screw up the play out of timeout and missed a pass from Race even if it was a bit high. But it's not fair to omit that Lander hit a HUGE free throw when it mattered, and even more importantly performed a perfect miss for TJD to get the offensive rebound and draw the foul to get us into OT. It really wasn't just one shot by Lander that solidifies anything for me. He had several good plays tonight and has had a series of great games prior to this.

I'm just kinda done with Rob. A senior guard scores 2 points and fouls out of the game. The offense is just generally worse when he's on the floor, and that was outside of only tonight. He was really not much better than Lander and hasn't had a great game yet this year. Let the young kid get the minutes moving on. Our lineups do well with Lander.

5 minutes ago, KoB2011 said:

I actually thought Rob played really well. His defense in the second half really set the tone and he did a good job of steadying the turnovers. The game changed when he got two weak fouls. 

I think its fair to be less harsh on him than people have been in the past, but Lander hitting that 3 at the end solidified in my mind we have seen the best of Rob and Lander should get his minutes. His defense was alright but he had some pretty horrible fouls, he's just not fast enough to keep up with solid guards and can't handle any mismatch.

this was a game to feel good about ultimately. crawling out of an 18 point hole from the absolute trash play in the first half to a 1 possession double OT loss is commendable. But this was the worst game of turnovers we have had in quite some time. They were almost intentional passes to Syracuse. If Race cleans up even a fraction of those terrible traitor-passes we win the game. I would also be fine never seeing Rob play again. We are just worse overall with him on the floor for large stretches of his time, and he is too slow to defend to a degree that's worth his offense. It doesn't help he looks completely content with life every time I see him sitting on the bench too.

That said, I liked a lot of what happened. I think hoosiers are still back

Hoosiers back

most complete game I have watched in quite some time. Regardless of the opponent (who had won last week and shot good %s, for what its worth), there wasnt really any aspect of the game IU completely folded over. More than that, plenty of improvement in the areas that caused such a headache in last games second half. Hoosiers could be back on track.

And just to repeat once again, I hope the cameraman of that game failed out of media school.

Genuinely hope this camera operator fails the semester. 

11 minutes ago, Seeking6 said:

Kind of OT. Has anyone heard when the IU posters are going to be sold to public? I know they sold at HH but haven't heard anything sense. 

They've been available. Mine already mailed to me. Check their website.

18 minutes ago, BGleas said:

 

Are any recruits going to announce soon? I thought that was all quiet for now, but then again I had no idea Newton was in the wings either.

This is one of the softest things I have ever seen. Gard never really did anything egregious here, certainly not to the extent of recording him without his consent. It's a bunch of players who "feel like he doesn't care about their futures", and the leaker even admits they had a positive, emotional conversation where Gard heard them and players felt like progress was made, and somebody STILL leaks this to the media. An absolutely pathetic betrayal of trust.

Reuvers saying "he doesn't feel like coach cares about him" when he chooses to live in a condo 20 minutes from campus while the rest of the team lives right by the Kohl Center and whines that he "doesn't feel part of the family". Meanwhile, he's been a four year starter averaging 3 rebounds per game as a seven footer. HILARIOUS that he would question Gard not caring about his future when he thinks his future has the NBA in it.

We have had a rough time over the years but good lord this would drive me off the edge if this was our program right now. Don't appease these players who support this. 

A hoosier beyond death. Always loved his posts here. Sorry to hear this.

23 minutes ago, HoosierJax said:

 

How cool would it be if the Pacers fell far enough to get Romeo? Although I still don't believe Romeo falls out of the top 10 and it's not likely. It's the only irrational hope that keeps me going to watch Pacers games.

Just now, CauseThatsMyDJ said:

LeBron carried hot garbage to the NBA finals. He plus the Brow would be lethal.

You are right, but I don't know how much longer I trust LeBron to do traditional LeBron things with any roster. I'm sure I will eat my words because he is a robot of a human, but so far he's missed a good amount of games and his regular season coasting combined with what the lakers may mortgage to get AD might not move them up much higher in the West.

Mostly just playing devils advocate though, I think in almost any scenario you make the move to secure AD.

Not sure if AD on the Lakers is even the super team you might initially think of them becoming. Depending on what happens with trades/free agency, the lakers seem to be willing to move a lot of pieces to bring AD this season instead of 2020. AD is a phenomenal player no doubt, but he also misses ~20 games a season or more from injuries -- which has destroyed what roster the Lakers already do have this year. As unremarkable as I think Ball and Ingram are, they might miss players like that over the course of a season if AD sits out or the team doesn't mesh well.

The team I think would be reeeeeally interesting for AD to sign with would be the rockets, but thankfully this isn't even an option because of the money they threw at Chris Paul. Even the bucks would be a better spot for him competitively speaking than LA in my opinion. 

3 minutes ago, Billingsley99 said:

without looking it up can you tell me which former Hoosier played the most NBA games in their career?

Isiah? If its not him its gotta be someone before his time

at least in NY he should get the playing time to prove himself again.

Is there any reliable timeline out there for Vic's return? Pacers are falling out of the playoff race quickly...

Still lots of time in the season left but these past few games have been concerning.