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2 hours ago, KDB said:

247. I was talking about adding him to the incoming 2023 class with Cupps, Newton, Sparks.. Your rankings add up when I add him to his original 2022 class with JHS and Malik.

What if we add Wade, Ledlum, and Knecht?

58 minutes ago, Seeking6 said:

Not his style. He contributes but he would never, never, never pay for 1 player at the college level.

He can't do NIL deals, it'd be a violation of NBA rules to funnel money to a college player.

55 minutes ago, tdhoosier said:

Is it expected that Ledlum, Ware and Malik would play at the same time? I know Ledlum is more versatile than Kopp, but I thought Woody was going to try and move away from these line ups. If this were to come to fruition are we going to be able to get that spacing we've desperately been wanting? 

 

 

This is where I'm at as well. One possibility, though, is that the staff just views Ware as too talented to turn down, even if it's not a perfect fit roster wise.

XJ / Cupps

Love / Newton / Leal

Sallis / Galloway / Gunn

Ludlum / Banks

Reneau / Shedrick / Sparks

I've seen some people thinking/hoping we'll sign Ledlum and Battle. But I'd think it has to be either/or, right? I don't see how there'd be enough minutes to go around there, especially if we sign Sparks and the UVa big. I just don't see Battle or Ledlum being feasible options at the 3 for any sustained length of time.

10 minutes ago, 5 championships said:

Ya my overall point was If Shedrick commits I’m good with it because it gives us rim protection we don’t have with Malik.. but dang not sure Malik, Shedrick, and Sparks would be happy splitting all that time at the 5 unless there was some sort of plan to play them together some which I’m not a huge fan of unless Malik can develop into more of a 4 that can play on perimeter more and guard the perimeter better.. 

This is my question as well. I think it's a great three man post rotation, potentially, but I do question where the minutes are going to come from if we intend to play 4 out.

Am I correct in thinking both Shedrick and Love would potentially have two years of eligibility left due to COVID? If so, thoughts on how they'd affect our 2024 class?

18 minutes ago, btownqb said:

Woodson coached JR Smith. 

Caleb Love fits really well with XJ, TG, Sparks, Cupps, and (Shedrick 🙏)

Still need three point shooting, ideally in the form of a 3 and D wing.

But that's also why I prefer Keshon Gilbert to Love. He gives you the 3s and the D, while still providing much of the benefits of Love.

I'd personally prefer Gilbert, but Love wouldn't be a bad second choice.

XJ

Gilbert / Love

Transfer Wing

Ludlum

Reneau

Galloway

Sparks

Banks

Cupps

Newton / Gunn

That's not bad at all.

2 minutes ago, WRSMick55 said:

Don’t know who this ‘Hoosier Fan’ is or if he actually knows anything, but posted this on Twitter:

Learn the name Keshon Gilbert. 

This kid is what IU needs. Explosive, athletic guard that is extremely crafty around the rim & can hit the 3 at a high clip. 

He has flown under-the-radar in the portal, but IU is currently recruiting him. 
 

From St. Louis. Recruited originally as a 6'1" PG, but has added three inches so he's now listed at 6'4". Would fill a need for a CG.

I thought this thread was just for relevant news updates, with the repetitive arguments about players who will probably never suit up for IU reserved for the other thread?

17 minutes ago, IUCrazy2 said:

Still would like to add another wing.

And a combo guard, in my opinion.

50 minutes ago, Danomatic said:

As far as the portal is concerned, I hope our staff is going after production, especially the one year guys. It looks as if we’re in on a lot of players, but I think that there are still some big fish who haven’t entered the portal yet. Just hope we don’t decide on portal guys too quickly.

I doubt that many impact players are entering the portal at this point without kicking the tires on potential landing spots ahead of time. So the staff probably has a pretty good idea who is likely to be available, what the interest level in IU would be, etc. Now sure, there will probably be some surprises. But it's also a game of musical chairs, so there is a real risk for a program in waiting too long to sign guys who are ready to commit.

2 hours ago, btownqb said:

Hoping the staff expects Cupps to be a 10-15mpg guy from.the get go? I don't see a need for another PG. 

I don't think he'll need to give us 10-15 on most nights, just 8-10.

29 minutes ago, HoosierDom said:

There's not a never-ending river of quality players in the portal - at some point we will have to take guys because we need kids who can play at this level, even if they aren't the ideal fit. If this were a video game and I could design kids with my ideal skill set, I wouldn't end up with the Texas Tech kid paired with Reneau, but they both look like guys who could be big time players. We need as many of those as we can get.

Just to be clear, I would take either of them if they were willing to come. I just don't think they are likely to come here if they aren't going to be playing starter-type minutes. And I don't think the plan is to play two bigs at the same time regularly, so I don't see it as a fit from the players' perspective, not the program's.

Moving the discussion of which bigs we should target here, from the other thread, I agree that the Wyoming or Texas Tech kids are probably going to be looking to start, and thus aren't a great fit here. At the same time, however, if we only target a backup rim protector without much offensive ability, that risks putting us in a big hole should Reneau have any health issues next year. That's why I think keeping Duncomb is actually more important than most think, as he has offensive upside, but isn't necessarily the sort of talent that might prevent us from getting a big fish in the 2024 class.

1 minute ago, IUFLA said:

They do have one 4 star coming in, Carey Booth (#73 overall)

He'd be an interesting Target for us if he were to reopen his recruitment. 6'9" PF.

5 hours ago, Hoosier987 said:

Kenya Hunter may be in play for the Buffalo job.

That would create an interesting family dynamic, as Kenya's son is playing at Buffalo's MAC rival Ohio.

2 hours ago, DC2345 said:

It does no good to start saying names of kids IU has had back-channel discussions with prior to them entering the portal. IU has been doing their work on some of these kids. At least 1 is still playing. That's why it's important to be patient. 

Agreed, naming names at this stage would be premature. Can you offer any generalities, though, about the types of players we're talking about? E.g., bigs vs wings, P5 vs mid major, seniors vs underclassmen.

Not sure the fit here makes a lot of sense. We already have signed a similarly sized CG in Newton. Meanwhile, if you view Dual as a PG, then that conflicts with Cupps. I think we're more likely to be looking for taller and longer 3/4 types with collegiate experience.

5 minutes ago, OGIUAndy said:

No but he did follow JHS who we recruited. Does Dual have any sort of connection to guys at IU? Did we recruit him at all initially? Not saying you don't reach out, but I don't know if you have the time to recruit a guy from scratch. He's more likely to go to the other schools that he was considering. Never say never, but seems like the only real connection is he's from Carmel.

I think this is probably right. But we didn't have any prior affiliation with Tamar Bates, as far as I can recall, but still convinced him on an abbreviated timeline. So it's not impossible.

Is Sisley athletic enough and have sufficient range to play a prototypical 4 in Woodson's system? Or is he more of a low post presence?

18 minutes ago, fasbjd said:

Good thought..unfortunately with 1000s of data points, won't be an easy task!

Didn't mean to suggest you necessarily should do it, just curious if you'd looked at that at all. My guess is that some weighting of most recent play while still factoring in full season numbers would probably provide the greatest accuracy, but I'm not a stats guy. Torvik does make it easy to do cutoffs of, say, February 1st to end of year, if that helps.

This is real interesting. Have you ever played around with it to see if limiting it to the last 4 or 6 weeks improves the accuracy? The problem with season-long analytics is that teams like Purdue and UConn haven't been playing at the same level at year's end that they were for much of the season, but the models don't fully take that into account. So this probably overrated their chances.

5 minutes ago, KoB2011 said:

I would pump the breaks on saying there is a "good chance" of Iowa advancing to the Sweet 16. Their first game is a tough draw again a team that is capable of defending them in what is basically a road game.

Then they have to beat a 1 seed. 

That's fair.