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16 minutes ago, FKIM01 said:

I don't get a good feeling when kids go off the prep school.  IU just hasn't had a great history with those recruits.

I already thought IU was an unlikely destination for him. At least this makes it likely he won't be a Boiler, either.

So he would be able to play basketball and baseball (assuming the coaches were all okay with that) but couldn't do so on a baseball scholarship.

3 minutes ago, Billingsley99 said:

Not disputing that but why is that so? We have seen several players play 2 college sports. 

1 minute ago, IU Scott said:

I don't understand that either but maybe it has something to do with baseball  not being a full ride scholarship.

It's to prevent schools from loading their football or basketball teams with scholarship "walk ons." If they play football, they receive a football scholarship or no scholarship. If they play basketball, they receive a basketball scholarship or no scholarship unless they have a football scholarship.

There's few other sports that are affected by the rule.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NCAA_Division_I#Rules_for_multi-sport_athletes

4 hours ago, Billingsley99 said:

the kid will be playing MLB would love him as wslk on but can't see or think it would happen

If he attends IU instead of going pro, he would not be able to walk on to the basketball team and receive a baseball scholarship. If he played basketball it would be a basketball scholarship or no scholarship.

53 minutes ago, CrimsonV said:

 

I take that as replying to a snarky comment with some snark of his own. You taking that response as seriously saying IU shouldn't recruit him is odd. 

23 minutes ago, dgambill said:

Nobody really knows but Izzo has a track record with kids at his position and skill set. Especially coming out of Northwest Indiana. I mean Gary might as well not even be from Indiana. To me this is as much an out of state recruit as Aminu.

Indeed. I'm not very excited about this guy because I don't think he'll end up at IU. But Purdue did just land a player from southern Indiana so who knows?

2 hours ago, btownqb said:

Why

To keep the number of scholarship players in sports like football and basketball the same for all schools. Can't get an extra scholarship player by giving them a full (or even partial) ride in rowing, for example. The single exception being a football player who also plays basketball, since that counts only against football.

48 minutes ago, rico said:

Might be wrong?

I was open to the possibility but it turns out I'm correct. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NCAA_Division_I#Rules_for_multi-sport_athletes

1 hour ago, cybergates said:

I know of football scholarship athletes (Randle El) have played/walked on to basketball team before. I haven't heard anything like what you're saying before. The only thing that comes to mind is a player can't walk on to the basketball team and then receive an academic scholarship as a workaround to the scholarship limit if they were ever recruited to play bball.

Athletes who play football always receive a football scholarship (or no scholarship) regardless of other sports they play.

1 hour ago, btownqb said:

I DO NOT want Montgomery playing basketball at IU. And that tweet "could" play.... yeah I mean, he could? As in will he be good enough? Yeah he is easily good enough to be a walk on on the basketball team. Easily. 

He does not need to play though. 

I'm not positive and might be wrong but I don't think he could walk-on to the basketball team and then have scholarship for baseball. I think he would be required to have a basketball scholarship or no scholarship at all.

11 minutes ago, dwtaylor1055 said:

2022 wing Masai Troutman received an offer from Indiana today. 

6'4" 185 lb from St John's Catholic Prep in Maryland. Doesn't appear to be ranked by 247 or Rivals at this time. Not a lot of info about him out there.

https://www.si.com/college/indiana/recruiting/indiana-offers-2022-guard-masai-troutman

48 minutes ago, Madison22 said:

"Braden, we officially offer you a scholarship to play basketball at Indiana Univ - - "

"I accept."

 

Instead of "Oh, thanks, I'll tweet this out along with my final 20 schools."

And fans will lose their minds if he is offered but doesn't accept on the spot as they have for a few other recruits.

7 minutes ago, IU Scott said:

You don't think if he played 4 years at UCLA and had a very good college career and lead UCLA to great seasons he would not have the same possibilities.  I would think there would be more job opportunities for him if he stayed at UCLA with all of their alumni.  

Scott, everyone is aware of where you stand on players staying in college and your opinion on it doesn't change. What also doesn't change is that it makes more sense financially for first round draft picks to get to the pros as early as possible. The window for being paid to play isn't large and even playing overseas they will earn much more than the cost of a degree.

7 hours ago, bluegrassIU said:

Full disclosure,  it took me a while to see the dude. The scenery in the forefront kinda snagged my attention.

I didn't see him until I saw your post.

34 minutes ago, The Daily Hoosier said:

Thanks for sharing.  6-6 incoming sophomore with the body of a high school senior.  Talks to Archie regularly and plenty of IU connections.  Seems like a clear top-100 talent.

Certainly sounds very good from your article. 

I'm curious, is he old for his class or just an early bloomer?

https://www.thedailyhoosier.com/iu-basketball-recruiting-class-of-2023-jalen-hooks-is-playing-up-two-years-and-on-track-to-be-a-star/

I have YouTube TV and I really like it. The UI is good plus unlimited DVR. They just raised their price from $50 to $65, though, which makes it quite a bit more expensive than the streaming alternatives.

24 minutes ago, IU Scott said:

Sounds good but they said the same thing about Leal

Who did end up at IU even if it wasn't as quick of a commitment as anticipated by some.

2 hours ago, IU Scott said:

Maybe he knows if he comes back and has a great year that it could set up for life after basketball.   He could become a legend in Iowa and have about any job he wants.  I am sure Iowa had plenty of rich alumni that would be willing to give Garza a great job.

Do you believe rich alumni might be more willing to give him a job if he comes back for another year rather than going pro now? He's already been great. Among the honors he's already received are B1G POY and 1st team All-American. You don't think he's an Iowa legend already? 

52 minutes ago, FW_Hoosier said:

Interesting that the composite has the top 5 recruits in the state listed as Jaden Ivey (75), D’Andre Davis (95), Nijel Pack (98), Leal (129), and Galloway (130)... I’m assuming Pack recently made a huge jump?

These rankings obviously aren’t the be all end all, and are probably even less accurate than usual given the circumstances.  Just weird to see Mr. Basketball not even ranked as a top 3 recruit in the state.  Wonder how many times that has happened?

Probably not very often. Maybe the year Kojak Fuller won? I don't remember what the overall talent level of that class was, though.

Leal and Galloway now around 120-130 depending on if it's 247 or 247 composite. They were around 100 before, I think.

8 minutes ago, milehiiu said:

I was not aware of that. Obviously not up to speed. That's why I love this forum. So many informed members.  Thanks for bringing me up to date.  And thanks for being a Hoosier Sports Nation member.

They are pretty new rules. This is either the first or second draft for which they've been in effect.

1 minute ago, milehiiu said:

From my understanding. Any kid can get feedback, and return.  So long as they don't hire an agent.

They can now hire an agent and retain eligibility as long as the agent is NCAA approved. They can even go through the draft and return if they're not drafted.

1 hour ago, BobSaccamanno said:

Is he a 3 or a 4, for those who have seen him play?   Also, does anyone recall the year the NBA is projected to dispense with the one and done rule?  

When Adam Silver talked about it, he said he expected it to be changed before the '22 draft. This was last year or '18.

51 minutes ago, IUFLA said:

From the article you cited...

"Currently a three star prospect, top 20 Center in the nation according to 247 sports. But, I wouldn’t expect him to become a four star top 100 prospect, before long. "

Typoed the n't?

Considering the whole sentence is basically a violent beat down of the English language, it very well could be.