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20 games, or roughly 2/3 of the regular season, are played against B1G opponents. That means to be relevant nationally year after year (which I think most here want) a school has to win against conference opponents. So I don't think it's too much to ask for a coach learn how to win against those. Also, this year he has an experienced team and a preseason all-conference player who is getting talk about being a contender for national POY in TJD. Miller has brought in one best point guards in the 2020 or 2021 classes. Of course, he had a similar situation with Morgan and Langford but that didn't turn out well. Maybe this time will be difference due to the overall team experience coupled with the following reasons: A couple of players who were rumored to either not buy in to Miller's playing philosophy and/or otherwise be distractions are gone. Injuries plagued the last few years but so far this off season there haven't been reports of those. Miller teams at IU have had games here and there where they were clicking on all cylinders but have not been able to string a bunch of those together. This means they've lost games they could've won. These preseason projections are based on this team continuing to play like the last few seasons except with more experience. So with the factors that may have caused that inconsistent play no longer applying to this team we should see a team that is more consistent than previous Miller teams. This also means they should play better than just an small incremental improvement from last season. If they finish 7th, it will likely mean they were plagued by uneven play yet again. I'm not saying, nor have I ever said, Miller should be fired. I am not sold on him and have found the last few seasons disappointing, not just because of the wins/loses but because they haven't looked like a well coached team and have often looked unprepared. I hope it was due to factors mostly out of his control. I'm waiting for him to put it all together and have the team look like a well coached, consistent team.

Did I say I wouldn't care? Nope, sure didn't. But 7th place in the conference would still be disappointing and certainly wouldn't answer questions of whether or not Miller can get it done at IU.

Considering IU finished 10th last season and 8th the season before, 7th place would be an improvement. But it would mean that the team once again failed to exceed expectations under Miller and that with all but 1 player recruited by him. With TJD and possibly Lander leaving after this season, if it doesn't happen now it might not happen.

I understand that. But at some point the improvement has to be reflected in conference standing which means conference wins, not just overall. The majority of the season, after all, is played in conference (20 games). I can't help but to think that some of his recruiting misses have been because not only has the team not win a lot, but their offense has often been ugly and stagnant. Maybe Miller will figure it out, maybe not. I hope he does, and sooner rather than later.

In that same timeframe Purdue had 11 top 4 finishes. If you look at just the last 10 years those teams are even more dominate: Michigan: 6 MSU: 9 Purdue: 6 Wisconsin: 9 Maryland since joining B1G: 4 of 6 seasons That's 2 dominate teams and 2 teams that have finished top 4 more often than not. This shows that doing consistently well in conference isn't impossible, even now. Wisconsin hasn't had that HoF coach the whole time. IU the last 20: 8 times. The last 10: 2 (both 1st place) I agree that it's coaching. IU hasn't had good coaches the last 20 years. The jury is still out on Miller but his record hasn't been great so far. Hopefully this will be the breakout year.

CincyHoosier did say "nearly." Here are some numbers. Top 4 in conference since 2000-2001 (last 20 seasons): MSU: 16 (1st 7 times also 1st the 3 years prior '01) Michigan: 7 (5 in last 20 years, 1st 2 times) Wisconsin: 18 (5th in '01, 9th in '18, 1st 5 times)

So he would be able to play basketball and baseball (assuming the coaches were all okay with that) but couldn't do so on a baseball scholarship.

It's to prevent schools from loading their football or basketball teams with scholarship "walk ons." If they play football, they receive a football scholarship or no scholarship. If they play basketball, they receive a basketball scholarship or no scholarship unless they have a football scholarship. There's few other sports that are affected by the rule. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NCAA_Division_I#Rules_for_multi-sport_athletes

If he attends IU instead of going pro, he would not be able to walk on to the basketball team and receive a baseball scholarship. If he played basketball it would be a basketball scholarship or no scholarship.

I take that as replying to a snarky comment with some snark of his own. You taking that response as seriously saying IU shouldn't recruit him is odd.

Indeed. I'm not very excited about this guy because I don't think he'll end up at IU. But Purdue did just land a player from southern Indiana so who knows?

This is not a rule yet. It was proposed but a decision on it was punted due to covid.

To keep the number of scholarship players in sports like football and basketball the same for all schools. Can't get an extra scholarship player by giving them a full (or even partial) ride in rowing, for example. The single exception being a football player who also plays basketball, since that counts only against football.

I was open to the possibility but it turns out I'm correct. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NCAA_Division_I#Rules_for_multi-sport_athletes

Athletes who play football always receive a football scholarship (or no scholarship) regardless of other sports they play.

I'm not positive and might be wrong but I don't think he could walk-on to the basketball team and then have scholarship for baseball. I think he would be required to have a basketball scholarship or no scholarship at all.

I didn't look at all of them but I did notice that you still have an old Composite rating for Trey Kaufman.

6'4" 185 lb from St John's Catholic Prep in Maryland. Doesn't appear to be ranked by 247 or Rivals at this time. Not a lot of info about him out there. https://www.si.com/college/indiana/recruiting/indiana-offers-2022-guard-masai-troutman

And fans will lose their minds if he is offered but doesn't accept on the spot as they have for a few other recruits.

Scott, everyone is aware of where you stand on players staying in college and your opinion on it doesn't change. What also doesn't change is that it makes more sense financially for first round draft picks to get to the pros as early as possible. The window for being paid to play isn't large and even playing overseas they will earn much more than the cost of a degree.

I didn't see him until I saw your post.

Certainly sounds very good from your article. I'm curious, is he old for his class or just an early bloomer?

https://www.thedailyhoosier.com/iu-basketball-recruiting-class-of-2023-jalen-hooks-is-playing-up-two-years-and-on-track-to-be-a-star/

I have YouTube TV and I really like it. The UI is good plus unlimited DVR. They just raised their price from $50 to $65, though, which makes it quite a bit more expensive than the streaming alternatives.

Who did end up at IU even if it wasn't as quick of a commitment as anticipated by some.