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  1. How are things going in Athens?

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    10 minutes ago, kyhoosier29 said:

    Only went back 8 years. Didn’t feel like he should get penalized for the first two classes given the situation. 

    Elston, Creek, Hulls, Watford (4 for 4)

    Oladipo, Sheehey (2/2)

    Abell, Etherington, Zeller (1/3)

    Yogi, Hollowell, Jurkin, Perea, Patterson (1/5) - Disaster

    Devin Davis, Fischer, Hartman (+), Robinson, Vonleh (+1/2), Williams (+), Ev Gordon (2.5/7) - Vonleh is a half bc he was a poor teammate, not the type of kids we want

    April, Blackmon JR (+) Zeisloft (+) Hoetzel, Holt, RJ (+) Priller (3/7)

    Bielfeldt, OG, Bryant, Morgan (4/4)

    McSwain (+), Newkirk (+), DeRon (+), Gelon, Green (+), Jones (4/6)

    22/38 is 58%, so almost 1 out of every 2 CTC recruited was a bad move. I gave NV full credit in my calculation, but I could argue that a few of the guys I have pluses to are generous. This isn’t to beat a dead horse or crap on CTC, but I felt the need to back up my claim. I appreciate CTC taking the daunting challenge that he did and giving it his best, but it just wasn’t anywhere near good enough. 

     

     

    From your list, the only misses that I see, i.e. recruits that should never have been offered a scholarship are:

    Jurkin, Devin Davis, Evan Gordon was a senior transfer - not sure I would put him in this category - but ok, April, Hoetzel, Priller, and Gelon.

    That is 7 out of 38 that would probably be considered recruiting misses.

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  3. How are things going in Athens?

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    1 hour ago, IU_Realist said:

    That’s some bullshit.  Painter is way more successful than Crean over the long haul.  Crean never finished over 5th in the Big East before here.  He was a wide swing of success and failures because he pissed off players and AAU coaches.  Fischer comes to mind.  Vonleh despised him.  Sheehey despised him.  Zeller and Hulls questioned him.  Why do you think he struggled recruiting in Indiana after the 2014 class?  The one success in recruiting in 2014 was a kid who never attempted to defend.  He did Patterson dirty.  We can go on and on and on and on if you want.  

    Actually, while Crean was at IU, he was just as successful as Painter. Crean had 2 SOLO B1G championships and 3 Sweet 16's in his 9 years at IU. Painter had 1 shared title and 1 solo title and 3 Sweet 16's and he started at Purdue 3 years before Crean got to IU. IU fired Crean for that, where as Painter stays at no expectations PU.

    Patterson had no one but himself to blame. He had a scholarship to play, he just didn't get his grades in order.

    The stuff bolded above, you have 0 facts to prove any of it, so there is no point in debating your opinion.

    Why do you hate the guy so much? I am not upset he was fired, but I don't hate him for what he did here.

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  5. How are things going in Athens?

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    13 minutes ago, IU_Realist said:

    Nobody has said he hasn’t develop players.  Crean kisses ass to people who help keep his wallet fat.  Shocker.  The next DWade, the next Oladipo, the next Antman, etc. I know an AAU coach who said this one time.  “I tell my kids when they choose a school....look at how the coach treats his best player, his worst players and his walkons....you don’t know which one you will be.”  

    This is Crean’s problem.  If you aren’t a top kid, you are dispensable to him.  Why do you think he has ALWAYS had trouble with transfers and coaches like Painter doesn’t.  People that matter like Painter.  People that matter don’t like Crean.  

    Name 1 player that transferred from IU during Crean's tenure that went elsewhere and did anything. You can make an argument that he recruited over too much, but the players that transferred weren't huge losses. You are making mountains out of molehills due to your hatred of him.

    People like Painter because he isn't doing anything at Purdue. IF he had success, people would dislike him. Purdue basketball has no expectations and he is delivering just that.

     

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  6. How are things going in Athens?

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    10 hours ago, IU_Realist said:

    It’s a Crean issue which is why he had so many transfers here.  A lot of ex players talk crap about him when he isn’t around. A lot of AAU coaches know his crap now.  He gets made fun of in coaching circles because he whiffs so much on assistants because he is a jerk.  Total Crean issue.  Any school that hires him will end up running into the same issue.  

    Care to share some examples of ex-players that talk crap about him? I am sure he has far more that love him. 

    Every coach whiffs in recruiting and assistant coaches. Heck, RMK had Dakich as an assistant.

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  21. Transfer Portal......and LeBron James and other off season tangents.

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    Posted · Edited by IUaic

    26 minutes ago, btownqb said:

    Ahh North Texas. Couldn't remember who took out the vaunted Purdue squad. The team that never loses 3 of 6 games in the first round. Little Rock and North Texas are powerhouses though. 

    That was the most disappointing thing to me from CAM, you knew what certain teams were doing to beat you (Purdue, Rutgers, etc.), but never adjusted to stop what they were doing. Stuck with a style that wasn't working.

    That is the main improvement I hope to see out of CMW, and I think we will.

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