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These last few posts brought to you by Frank Zappa. (I'm done detracting this thread with VD).

ew. you crossed the line. 😆

I'm guessing there's no noticeable effect on numbers here (in Indiana) because of the very reason you stated above....it's not being enforced or a high percentage of the population is not adhering to the mandate. You can't prevent venereal disease in a sexual active nursing home if only half of the residents always use protection, 25% sometimes use protection, 15% rarely use protection and 10% never use protection . Sorry to put that image in your heads.

For the granola eating, Birkentock wearing, patchouli scented free spirits. The new Fleet Foxes album released this week is pretty great. I've already listened to it thrice.

Yeah. Tapestry is not great; probably why it’s always empty. Stinks that Transient was crowded. Beer Church is awesome. Only went there once....they forgot to bring out our pizza and we were there for longer than expected. But both pizza and beer were great. Never heard of Ghost Isle....need to check it out.

It’s a small place and tends to get packed. Especially on a nice day like this. If that’s the case and you are big on IPAs, at the very least get a 4 pack to go. The restaurant across the street has some killer poutine as well.

Nice! If you come back down south Transient Artisan Ales in Bridgman is by far (in my opinion) the best of the breweries in SW Michigan....possibly one of the best in the entire Midwest...beer nerds flock there on their special release days. Their NEIPAs are to die for and their Buckley stouts are incredible. I actually just saw in my FB feed that they have a Bark Lord on tap haha: imperial stout with Tugboat coffee, maple syrup, vanilla, cinnamon There’s also a Haymarket tap room at the exit, which is really good. And Tapistry is across the street from Transient (which is meh).

nothing says ending a stressful week of work like The Rat by The Walkmen

I was listening to XRT in the car yesterday and this song came on that had me wondering if I missed it 25 years ago because it sounded like it came straight out of the late 90s. For a minute, I thought I was driving in my old Chevy Blazer. Turned out it was a new song from Semisonic. (you know, the 'closing time' Semisonic?). Pretty decent song, but it totally hit that nostalgia button for me....thought I'd share it for the 90s kids.

IUFLA is kind enough to let me talk his ear off about music on PM. As he found out, sometimes once you get me going I have a hard time stopping. I have to restrain myself on the recommendations because he'll as for a recommendation and i'll have to fight the urge to not give him 9 more recommendations that he asked for. haha. I enjoy it though because has me going back in my 'electronic vault' to find stuff and i'll re-listen to albums i haven't heard in years. And because @Lostin76 brought up Khruangbin I have the urge to share some more groovy, dubby tunes. A little RJD2:

Can’t say I disagree with you. His accuracy has been and is currently a big problem.

I take back my ‘like’

Just heard a crazy and interesting stat about this game. This is the first regular season game that Brady’s team has been an underdog in since 2015!

Colts were my second choice.

Name one team that’s not ‘your team’ you are most excited to see this weekend. For me, it’s Tampa Bay...everything on paper says they will be formidable, but will these new pieces jive?

Kumbaya moment: there are some on this thread that I disagree with often...sometimes may even get frustrated with at times (haha). In particular this thread's frequent posters: @mrflynn03, @Reacher, @IUFLA, @5fouls (sorry if I left anybody else out...and not trying to group you all together as representing one particular belief, you are all individuals with individual perspectives). Just wanted to let you all know I appreciate you all as posters, people, and enjoy chatting with you on many topics despite our different beliefs on this topic. I'm glad mods are keeping this thread open because I do think it's a healthy practice to cordially disagree with each other. Especially in these times. I saw a great quote last week that i'm trying to be cognisant of in 'real life' conversations and internet conversations that I struggle with but am doing my best to adhere to: "It's not about being right, It's about getting it right". I just think this needs to be remembered when approaching controversial topics. It needs to be less about proving each other wrong and more about understanding and respecting each other's perspective. Like I said, i'm definitely not a poster boy for this, just trying to work on it. Thank you mods, sorry for any part I played in that fiasco.

You really have a hard time controlling yourself don't you? Don't worry though, those traits of decency will come with maturity.

...I thought you were leaving? I'm too busy cowering in my basement to reply to the irony of your last 2 sentences.

Ha. That's rich coming from you. See you later troll.

Funny, you are the one who complains it's all political, yet, make it political with these posts. AND yes....it's SO political and It's 'going to go away' after the election. Keep telling yourselves that. Do you guys take some time to think about the BS coming out of you mouths? Yes, it was a hoax that the WHOLE world was in on. All these other countries wanted to destroy their economies just to get Trump out of office.

I'm not denying that some bad decisions were made, but NY and NJ by no choice of their own took a kick in the balls from the rest of the country because they were the guinea pigs that the rest of the states learned from. The virus was already spreading before any restrictions were put in place, which caused it to get out of control. All this, when they had very little idea of what they dealing with, who to keep safe and how to keep them safe, and how to effectively treat it. Just thought this need to be said for some perspective. If the virus first hit another major US city I'm so not sure the numbers (figured to population) would look all that different. This would be like assigning a foreign person who'd never seen a football game to be the coach of the Colts after the first quarter. The first game he'd get clobbered. He'd eventually get less worse once he understood the rules, how to prepare and how to play.

When they estimate the death toll for a hurricane it’s impossible to get it exactly right, which is why they use excessive deaths to estimate the impact. It’s the same with COVID19 And while I’m not denying that deaths happened as an indirect result from COVID, which also helped inflate the excessive death reporting, I believe it has to be a small percentage. I posted a table a few pages back where they estimate excessive deaths of despair (suicides, overdoses, etc.) numbers through the end of the year at 10k. Let’s say we are at 6k excessive deaths of despair now; add that to today’s COVID19 death totals (189k) and we are at 195k, which is still at the low end of the excessive death estimated range. I’m guessing we may disagree on this, but I think the COVID death numbers are generally accurate. There are probably a handful of anamolies, but I think the reported numbers generally fall within at least a +/- 3% error rate. A 3% error rate is about 6,500 cases that could be mis-reported in one direction, or not reported at all in the other direction. You arbitrarily threw out ‘half’ and I agree that would change how we reacted to the virus, but there’s no evidence to say we are even close to a +/- 50% error rate. How far do you think we are off? How far off do you think we need to be off in order for it to have changed how we reacted?

This week will say a lot. Hopefully case count will be down and stay down throughout this fall. Fingers crossed. Regarding that last statement (because I see that rationale presented over and over again), I'm just curious how you rationalize that theory with the excessive death numbers pretty much exactly following the COVID death curve. Per the site: Total predicted number of excess deaths since 2/1/2020 across the United States: 190,912 - 253,841 https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm IF so many people would've died anyway, enough to alter the course of our national response, then why are we still so far above the 5 years median for total deaths since February? There have been no other pandemics, no significant natural disasters, no wars, etc. Or maybe I'm misunderstanding what you are saying?

Up until this year I was a big beer drinker; logging almost 900 different beers on my beer app. I still love beer, but it doesn’t love me: bad hangovers, messing up my stomach, weight gain, etc. I used to scoff at mich Ultra and those low cal beers, but my beer of choice this this summer is Corona Premium with a lime. I can drink those things forever and not feel full...or drunk (well, haven’t tested that many in one sitting).

Think I mentioned this earlier in the thread, but Jason Isbell, IMO, is one of the best songwriters out there right now. All his stuff is absolutely amazing. On this same album, give Elephant a listen and try not to cry: She said, "Andy, you're better than your past" Winked at me and drained her glass Cross-legged on a barstool, like nobody sits anymore She said, "Andy, you're taking me home" But I knew she planned to sleep alone I'd carry her to bed, sweep up the hair from her floor If I'd fucked her before she got sick I'd never hear the end of it She don't have the spirit for that now We just drink our drinks and laugh out loud And bitch about the weekend crowd And try to ignore the elephant somehow Somehow She said, "Andy, you crack me up" Seagram's in a coffee cup Sharecropper eyes, and the hair almost all gone When she was drunk, she made cancer jokes Made up her own doctors' notes Surrounded by her family, I saw that she was dying alone But I'd sing her classic country songs And she'd get high and sing along She don't have a voice to sing with now We burn these joints in effigy And cry about what we used to be Try to ignore the elephant somehow Somehow I buried her a thousand times, given up my place in line But I don't give a damn about that now There's one thing that's real clear to me No one dies with dignity We just try to ignore the elephant somehow We just try to ignore the elephant somehow We just try to ignore the elephant somehow Somehow Somehow