IU Scott Posted July 17, 2023 Report Share Posted July 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, rico said: Charlie Goldsmith@CharlieG__The Reds have placed Kevin Newman on the IL with gastritis. That's the corresponding move for CES. Watching the Reds this weekend gave me gas as well 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted July 17, 2023 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2023 34 minutes ago, rico said: Charlie Goldsmith@CharlieG__The Reds have placed Kevin Newman on the IL with gastritis. That's the corresponding move for CES. Translated:Â Kevin Newman no longer warrants a roster spot, and we will be trading him as soon as his gas passes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted July 17, 2023 Report Share Posted July 17, 2023 19 minutes ago, 5fouls said: Translated:Â Kevin Newman no longer warrants a roster spot, and we will be trading him as soon as his gas passes. I wonder what kind of deal(s) is in the works? Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted July 17, 2023 Report Share Posted July 17, 2023 1 hour ago, rico said: I wonder what kind of deal(s) is in the works?  I doubt they do much at the trade deadline. I wouldn't trade one of our top prospects for rental pitchers. Hopefully get t a LHP for the bullpen and a starter like Lance Lynn. In the off season I would look to trade India and Senzel and maybe a prospect like Arroyo who will be blocked due to our young infield Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted July 17, 2023 Report Share Posted July 17, 2023 23 minutes ago, IU Scott said: I doubt they do much at the trade deadline. I wouldn't trade one of our top prospects for rental pitchers. Hopefully get t a LHP for the bullpen and a starter like Lance Lynn. In the off season I would look to trade India and Senzel and maybe a prospect like Arroyo who will be blocked due to our young infield It appears that Newman is on the block. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted July 17, 2023 Report Share Posted July 17, 2023 Just now, rico said: It appears that Newman is on the block. I would think so because there is no room for him. Just saw the lineup for tonight EDLC Freidl McClain  Fraley India Votto CES Stephenson Benson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted July 18, 2023 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2023 1 hour ago, rico said: It appears that Newman is on the block. If they get Lance Lynn they can move Williamson to the pen as a 2nd lefthander one Greene and Lodolo are back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted July 18, 2023 Report Share Posted July 18, 2023 So far through 3 innings the slump doesn't look close to being over. They made very little solid contract and making weak outs. Luckily the one hard hit was a home run by McClain but besides that nothing. We had that stretch of hitting home runs in 19 straight games and wonder now if we are trying to hit everything out of the park. The offense was better when we were using more of our speed and just putting good contact on the ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bronkonagurski Posted July 18, 2023 Report Share Posted July 18, 2023 On 7/16/2023 at 5:55 PM, Seeking6 said: For the Cubs brethren. Stroman's answer to reporter question after game yesterday was about well as you could say anything. Basically why would an organization not want to be good year after year vs selling players at trade....  Nothing inspires excitement and confidence like selling off at the deadline for 3 consecutive seasons, if that ends up being the outcome. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted July 18, 2023 Report Share Posted July 18, 2023 For most of the year we was all hit and no pitching. We are finally getting consistent good starting pitching but can't hit now. I don't know if we are just getting hot pitching against a s or just had luck. It seems like the last 5 games the pitchers are painting the black and right at the knees Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted July 18, 2023 Report Share Posted July 18, 2023 51 minutes ago, bronkonagurski said: Nothing inspires excitement and confidence like selling off at the deadline for 3 consecutive seasons, if that ends up being the outcome. And on top of that basically not having anyone to show for all the players we let go or traded. Name one starter that came from all the moves. Jed can see his self the door....coattails on Theo his entire career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted July 18, 2023 Report Share Posted July 18, 2023 7 hours ago, TheWatShot said: .316 OBP isn't very good. The Tigers have the worst offense in baseball and have 4 guys with a higher OBP than that. Luckily he hits home runs or he'd probably be in the minors by now. Yep..that crucial little thing like homers is kind of important. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted July 18, 2023 Report Share Posted July 18, 2023 4 minutes ago, Seeking6 said: Yep..that crucial little thing like homers is kind of important. Not really especially if most are solo homers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted July 18, 2023 Report Share Posted July 18, 2023 Just now, IU Scott said: Not really especially if most are solo homers Only 3 people in the NL do something better than he does. That's hit HR's...I'll step away from the KS stuff. Amazing how much grief one of our own gets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted July 18, 2023 Report Share Posted July 18, 2023 9 minutes ago, Seeking6 said: Only 3 people in the NL do something better than he does. That's hit HR's...I'll step away from the KS stuff. Amazing how much grief one of our own gets. Who is giving him grief but I am not one who thinks just hitting a lot of home runs makes you a good player. He is a Rob Deer or Dave Kingman who can kill the ball when they made contact but it didn't happen often. I take a stat line like Tommy Herr when he hit .310,9hr, 110 rbi     Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted July 18, 2023 Report Share Posted July 18, 2023 9 hours ago, IU Scott said: Who is giving him grief but I am not one who thinks just hitting a lot of home runs makes you a good player. He is a Rob Deer or Dave Kingman who can kill the ball when they made contact but it didn't happen often. I take a stat line like Tommy Herr when he hit .310,9hr, 110 rbi     Right now Kyle is averaging 40 HRs and 89 RBI over 162 games. Most teams will take that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted July 18, 2023 Report Share Posted July 18, 2023 11 hours ago, 5fouls said: If they get Lance Lynn they can move Williamson to the pen as a 2nd lefthander one Greene and Lodolo are back. But do the White Sox want or need Newman? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted July 18, 2023 Report Share Posted July 18, 2023 10 hours ago, Seeking6 said: Yep..that crucial little thing like homers is kind of important. Oh? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted July 18, 2023 Report Share Posted July 18, 2023 10 hours ago, Seeking6 said: And on top of that basically not having anyone to show for all the players we let go or traded. Name one starter that came from all the moves. Jed can see his self the door....coattails on Theo his entire career. Trading Stroman could bring back a haul...or maybe not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted July 18, 2023 Report Share Posted July 18, 2023 Tommy Herr was a 2nd baseman..  He only had two seasons where he hit over .278... he only had 4 seasons with more than 60 RBIs.. two of those were 60, 61... Career- .270/.347/.350-- he wasn't even an average slap hitter... if @5fouls isn't as impressed with Shohei hitting 55 bombs as he is Babe Ruth because of the difference in eras, what Herr did at the plate shouldn't be impressive at all. Schwarber-- .228/.336/.490  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted July 18, 2023 Report Share Posted July 18, 2023 18 minutes ago, rico said: But do the White Sox want or need Newman? This is my thing.. there has to be some to take with you to the dance. Personally I don't think the Reds get a worthwhile trade done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted July 18, 2023 Report Share Posted July 18, 2023 1 minute ago, btownqb said: This is my thing.. there has to be some to take with you to the dance. Personally I don't think the Reds get a worthwhile trade done. You think they stand pat? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted July 18, 2023 Report Share Posted July 18, 2023 1 minute ago, rico said: You think they stand pat? I think there are too many moving parts, too much youth, they do still have young pitching they like... And that this point getting Greene+NL back in August is sort of like making a trade? Idk.  1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted July 18, 2023 Report Share Posted July 18, 2023 9 minutes ago, btownqb said: Tommy Herr was a 2nd baseman..  He only had two seasons where he hit over .278... he only had 4 seasons with more than 60 RBIs.. two of those were 60, 61... Career- .270/.347/.350-- he wasn't even an average slap hitter... if @5fouls isn't as impressed with Shohei hitting 55 bombs as he is Babe Ruth because of the difference in eras, what Herr did at the plate shouldn't be impressive at all. Schwarber-- .228/.336/.490  I think what tells most about Herr is his all-star appearances. He only had 1. That tells you all you need to know.  1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted July 18, 2023 Report Share Posted July 18, 2023 11 hours ago, IU Scott said: For most of the year we was all hit and no pitching. We are finally getting consistent good starting pitching but can't hit now. I don't know if we are just getting hot pitching against a s or just had luck. It seems like the last 5 games the pitchers are painting the black and right at the knees A lot of your guys are newer players and it takes a minute to get a good book on where the holes in their swings are... But once they find them, everybody knows it... And if you can't adjust, you go the Joe Charboneau route... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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