5 championships Posted April 14 Report Share Posted April 14 11 minutes ago, Stlboiler23 said: Congrats on the pickup! Congrats on final four! I was thinking the whole run how fun it be to watch IU do that again. Not sure it will ever happen 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted April 14 Report Share Posted April 14 It's not official until he's on the Scholarship Grid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted April 14 Report Share Posted April 14 53 minutes ago, Maedhros said: The potential significance here, though, is those games all came at the end of the year. It's not unusual for freshmen to hit a wall. Certainly that's part of what cooked Purdue against FDU. Braden Smith shot only 25% the last seven games of his freshman year. He was over 40% before that stretch, and for his entire sophomore year after. And Braden wasn't playing his freshman year having just finished chemo. Thank you...that was the overall point... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted April 14 Report Share Posted April 14 4 hours ago, fasbjd said: Nice. We've got a semblance of a team now! Indiana Hoosiers Scholarship Grid 2024 - 2025 (-5⊕) 2025 - 2026 (-7) 2026 - 2027 (-8) 2027 - 2028 (-11) 2028 - 2029 (-13) Trey Galloway Open Open Open Open Anthony Leal Open Open Open Open Malik Reneau Malik Reneau Open Open Open Gabe Cupps Gabe Cupps Gabe Cupps Open Open Mackenzie Mgbako Mackenzie Mgbako Mackenzie Mgbako Open Open Myles Rice Myles Rice Myles Rice Open Open Jakai Newton Jakai Newton Jakai Newton Jakai Newton Open Bryson Tucker Bryson Tucker Bryson Tucker Bryson Tucker Open Open Open Open Open Open Open Open Open Open Open Open Open Open Open Open Open Open Open Open Open Open Open Open Open Open (Oversign) (Oversign) (Oversign) (Oversign) (Oversign) Jackson Creel Shaan Burke James Goodis Jordan Rayford Ian Stephens - - James Goodis Jordan Rayford Ian Stephens - - James Goodis Jordan Rayford Ian Stephens - - - - - Italics = walk-ons. = post-redshirt (Name in black for redshirt year). = additional year granted due to pandemic. @5fouls its the 3rd post of the thread lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted April 14 Report Share Posted April 14 2 minutes ago, btownqb said: @5fouls its the 3rd post of the thread lol That's not the pinned thread I'm referring to. Rice is not on this grid yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zlinedavid Posted April 14 Report Share Posted April 14 1 hour ago, 5fouls said: That's not the pinned thread I'm referring to. Rice is not on this grid yet Happy now? Impatient bastich...grumble mumble..... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted April 14 Report Share Posted April 14 5 minutes ago, Zlinedavid said: Happy now? Impatient bastich...grumble mumble..... No. I stressed about it for over an hour. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purdue7 Posted April 14 Report Share Posted April 14 Watched a few Cougar games….he stood out with his athleticism and ability to get to his pull-up or all the way to the basket Wouldn’t worry about 3 pt shooting percentage…he has good form 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted April 14 Report Share Posted April 14 5 hours ago, Purdue7 said: Watched a few Cougar games….he stood out with his athleticism and ability to get to his pull-up or all the way to the basket Wouldn’t worry about 3 pt shooting percentage…he has good form Agreed. My biggest worry is his defense. PAC12 defense is like a 4 letter word. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kdug Posted April 14 Report Share Posted April 14 28 minutes ago, dgambill said: Agreed. My biggest worry is his defense. PAC12 defense is like a 4 letter word. Washington State ranked 26th in defensive efficiency last year while IU ranked 84th. Playing some PAC 12 level defense would be a huge improvement over whatever we were doing last year. 6 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SawatchHoosier Posted April 14 Report Share Posted April 14 (edited) 12 hours ago, Stlboiler23 said: Congrats on the pickup! Thank you! The 1996 F150 has been doing great lately with the new radiator Edited April 14 by SawatchHoosier 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted April 14 Report Share Posted April 14 54 minutes ago, Kdug said: Washington State ranked 26th in defensive efficiency last year while IU ranked 84th. Playing some PAC 12 level defense would be a huge improvement over whatever we were doing last year. They had 4 teams in the tournament. One made it in the play in…and one made it with an automatic bid who had no business in the tournament. As bad as the B1G was last year the PAC12 is just a bad conference and playing in a league like that will warp your numbers. Some things you can use the eye test and see…the PAC12 and defense doesn’t go hand in hand. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kdug Posted April 14 Report Share Posted April 14 4 minutes ago, dgambill said: They had 4 teams in the tournament. One made it in the play in…and one made it with an automatic bid who had no business in the tournament. As bad as the B1G was last year the PAC12 is just a bad conference and playing in a league like that will warp your numbers. Some things you can use the eye test and see…the PAC12 and defense doesn’t go hand in hand. WSU’s defense would’ve ranked 5th in the big ten. I don’t really care what the PAC 12 as a whole looks like, with Rice we’re getting a guy who played on a tourney team that had a solid defense. Fwiw, IU’s defense (and offense) would’ve been in the bottom half of the pac 12. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted April 14 Report Share Posted April 14 2 hours ago, dgambill said: Agreed. My biggest worry is his defense. PAC12 defense is like a 4 letter word. Excuse me. This guy takes offense when you talk poorly about the Conference of Champions. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawg Bawls Posted April 14 Report Share Posted April 14 37 minutes ago, 5fouls said: Excuse me. This guy takes offense when you talk poorly about the Conference of Champions. Man, you trippin... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zlinedavid Posted April 14 Report Share Posted April 14 2 hours ago, Dawg Bawls said: Man, you trippin... Well with Walton, wacky tobbacky is a given, but shrooms are a definite possibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted April 14 Report Share Posted April 14 5 hours ago, Kdug said: WSU’s defense would’ve ranked 5th in the big ten. I don’t really care what the PAC 12 as a whole looks like, with Rice we’re getting a guy who played on a tourney team that had a solid defense. Fwiw, IU’s defense (and offense) would’ve been in the bottom half of the pac 12. I’m not trying to say analytics don’t matter but when you aren’t playing a similar schedule or opponents…well it’s not apples to apples. We played a much superior schedule. It ranked 29th vs 77th for Washington St. anyway my point is he will need to step up to both the offensive and defensive side of the ball coming to the B1G. I’m sure he can do it…but we all know the style of basketball from West coast to B1G is night and day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted April 14 Report Share Posted April 14 4 hours ago, 5fouls said: Excuse me. This guy takes offense when you talk poorly about the Conference of Champions. You got me…I got no words for him…which is good because he never stops talking. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom White Posted April 14 Report Share Posted April 14 29 minutes ago, dgambill said: You got me…I got no words for him…which is good because he never stops talking. And yet, he never really says anything. 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoosier_exotics Posted April 14 Report Share Posted April 14 2 hours ago, dgambill said: I’m not trying to say analytics don’t matter but when you aren’t playing a similar schedule or opponents…well it’s not apples to apples. We played a much superior schedule. It ranked 29th vs 77th for Washington St. anyway my point is he will need to step up to both the offensive and defensive side of the ball coming to the B1G. I’m sure he can do it…but we all know the style of basketball from West coast to B1G is night and day. Hopefully the "style" changes with our new big ten schools coming in. It's not a coincidence the BIG doesn't have guards worth a hoot in March 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kdug Posted April 14 Report Share Posted April 14 2 hours ago, dgambill said: I’m not trying to say analytics don’t matter but when you aren’t playing a similar schedule or opponents…well it’s not apples to apples. We played a much superior schedule. It ranked 29th vs 77th for Washington St. anyway my point is he will need to step up to both the offensive and defensive side of the ball coming to the B1G. I’m sure he can do it…but we all know the style of basketball from West coast to B1G is night and day. You mean the style of play that hasn’t won a championship since 2000? Yeah, I don’t mind if we play a different style than that. And let’s not pretend like the P12 is some mid major. Yes it’s typically slightly worse than the big ten, but it’s still a multi bid league that has really good teams. Again, WSU was significantly better than IU and at least half of the other big ten schools. He’ll be able to handle the big ten just fine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUJoe Posted April 14 Report Share Posted April 14 2 hours ago, dgambill said: I’m not trying to say analytics don’t matter but when you aren’t playing a similar schedule or opponents…well it’s not apples to apples. We played a much superior schedule. It ranked 29th vs 77th for Washington St. anyway my point is he will need to step up to both the offensive and defensive side of the ball coming to the B1G. I’m sure he can do it…but we all know the style of basketball from West coast to B1G is night and day. The efficiency rankings aren’t just raw rankings. Defensive efficiency metrics are adjusted for the strength and efficiency of offenses you face. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawg Bawls Posted April 15 Report Share Posted April 15 (edited) 7 hours ago, Zlinedavid said: Well with Walton, wacky tobbacky is a given, but shrooms are a definite possibility. Oh thats a given... so is LSD PCP ABC 123.... Edited April 15 by Dawg Bawls 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted April 15 Report Share Posted April 15 3 hours ago, IUJoe said: The efficiency rankings aren’t just raw rankings. Defensive efficiency metrics are adjusted for the strength and efficiency of offenses you face. I think we’ve all seen how conferences can manipulate the analytics with their scheduling. I’ll leave it at that because I think Rice is a huge upgrade over XJ…this is a good first step. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zlinedavid Posted April 15 Report Share Posted April 15 3 hours ago, dgambill said: I think we’ve all seen how conferences can manipulate the analytics with their scheduling. That's not "manipulating". That's a known weakness of any statistical sample: you can't build a model if there aren't enough data points. And I think most major conferences have better things to do than sit around and tweak their scheduling just to manipulate certain statistical metrics. Getting a little bit into tin foil hat territory with that one. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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