The Daily Hoosier Posted May 25, 2018 Report Share Posted May 25, 2018 We list out the 29 players going back to 2002 that were, in my opinion, the "must have" kids produced by the state of Indiana -- and make the case that inside-out is a no-brainer strategy. Of course I know this awesome crowd will make the case for someone I left off the list. Those are fun debates to have. My criteria was based on their college productivity, not high school or pros. https://www.thedailyhoosier.com/archie-millers-inside-out-strategy-why-recruiting-the-hoosier-state-is-mission-critical/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FKIM01 Posted May 25, 2018 Report Share Posted May 25, 2018 ...and as always, some real quality analysis. My only difference with it is that character matters too and while I would welcome the MAJORITY of those kids listed, there are some character issues in that group that I wouldn't want in an IU locker room regardless of their talent. I won't name names, but I personally recoiled at the thought of a few of those kids representing IU. EDIT: There's really only two of those kids I would not have welcomed...one only in hindsight. No surprise where they ended up going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobSaccamanno Posted May 25, 2018 Report Share Posted May 25, 2018 You're preaching to the choir to me. I am with you all the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehiiu Posted May 25, 2018 Report Share Posted May 25, 2018 Great research. A question of perception vs reality, in some way. As I was surprised to learn IU lead with 5 premier recruits. And then some years there was a limited number of primo recruits in the state. Which helps add to the perception that IU was not locking down the state, IMHO/ Now... the reality is that IU and Archie need to lock down the state.... even in those years where the talent level is down, from a historical perspective. 2018 was a great start. And Archie needs to keep locking up the state for what appears to be a bumper crop of 2019 top talent as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Daily Hoosier Posted May 25, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2018 1 hour ago, milehiiu said: Great research. A question of perception vs reality, in some way. As I was surprised to learn IU lead with 5 premier recruits. And then some years there was a limited number of primo recruits in the state. Which helps add to the perception that IU was not locking down the state, IMHO/ Now... the reality is that IU and Archie need to lock down the state.... even in those years where the talent level is down, from a historical perspective. 2018 was a great start. And Archie needs to keep locking up the state for what appears to be a bumper crop of 2019 top talent as well. I had the same "hey IU led with 5" reaction. Then I did the math and realized that was only 17%. I'm not sure what the % should be, but it has to be better than that. Archie is on the right path. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehiiu Posted May 25, 2018 Report Share Posted May 25, 2018 10 minutes ago, The Daily Hoosier said: I had the same "hey IU led with 5" reaction. Then I did the math and realized that was only 17%. I'm not sure what the % should be, but it has to be better than that. Archie is on the right path. I would have to think that our Hoosier Sports Nation basketball savvy members, would agree that IU can't get all the top talent every year. However, not doing the math, myself, and thanks for that..... IU and Archie need to improve upon that percentage, IMHO, in this basketball treasure rich state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IowaHoosierFan Posted May 25, 2018 Report Share Posted May 25, 2018 We are going to lose some of them due to positions they play. Yogi killed the PG market for 3 years as the starter who was not going to be replaced and then We had years of back to back to back 5* Center in Zeller and Vonleh. But i do agree we need to lock down at least 1 top tier player in each class in Indiana each year. Then build around that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArchieBall13 Posted May 25, 2018 Report Share Posted May 25, 2018 2 hours ago, FKIM01 said: ...and as always, some real quality analysis. My only difference with it is that character matters too and while I would welcome the MAJORITY of those kids listed, there are some character issues in that group that I wouldn't want in an IU locker room regardless of their talent. I won't name names, but I personally recoiled at the thought of a few of those kids representing IU. EDIT: There's really only two of those kids I would not have welcomed...one only in hindsight. No surprise where they ended up going. Without clicking yet, my guess is Jaquan Lyle. Time to find out if I'm right! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FKIM01 Posted May 25, 2018 Report Share Posted May 25, 2018 15 minutes ago, ArchieBall13 said: Without clicking yet, my guess is Jaquan Lyle. Time to find out if I'm right! I didn't see him on the list for some reason, but yeah, I consider him a bullet dodged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehiiu Posted May 25, 2018 Report Share Posted May 25, 2018 31 minutes ago, ArchieBall13 said: Without clicking yet, my guess is Jaquan Lyle. Time to find out if I'm right! Reminds me of watching, Jeopardy on Thursday, May 24. One of the questions was .... and I am paraphrasing now, as I don't recall the exact question..... "what movie was Jimmy Chitwood", the hero? " It was answered correctly.... and of course I am sure by every Hoosier Sports Nation member who may have seen Jeopardy on Thursday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Daily Hoosier Posted May 25, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2018 3 hours ago, ArchieBall13 said: Without clicking yet, my guess is Jaquan Lyle. Time to find out if I'm right! I didn't include him because my primary criteria was a successful college career. He put up a decent numbers at OSU and I suppose he should qualify, but to me that story is still being written. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 26, 2018 Report Share Posted May 26, 2018 4 hours ago, milehiiu said: Reminds me of watching, Jeopardy on Thursday, May 24. One of the questions was .... and I am paraphrasing now, as I don't recall the exact question..... "what movie was Jimmy Chitwood", the hero? " It was answered correctly.... and of course I am sure by every Hoosier Sports Nation member who may have seen Jeopardy on Thursday. Damn. I can't believe we let Jimmy get away.😛 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehiiu Posted May 26, 2018 Report Share Posted May 26, 2018 3 hours ago, Jerry Lundergaard said: Damn. I can't believe we let Jimmy get away.😛 Yep. Jimmy and Bobby Plump as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted May 26, 2018 Report Share Posted May 26, 2018 I would like to know what their NBA careers were like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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