CauseThatsMyDJ Posted October 29, 2018 Report Share Posted October 29, 2018 https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/putting-the-16-teams-with-a-realistic-shot-at-winning-the-2019-ncaa-tournament-title-into-tiers/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierhoopster Posted October 29, 2018 Report Share Posted October 29, 2018 ^^ No way, in the world, we finish with 18 wins. That's is not the "spectrum." To me that's a cop out for a wild card prediction/forecast. Do agree the range may be pretty broad, given things like questions at the point, but this looks to be a legit top 3-4 B1G team, or better, and imo a team that will run deep in March barring injuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoHoosier Posted October 29, 2018 Report Share Posted October 29, 2018 1 hour ago, Hoosierhoopster said: ^^ No way, in the world, we finish with 18 wins. That's is not the "spectrum." To me that's a cop out for a wild card prediction/forecast. Do agree the range may be pretty broad, given things like questions at the point, but this looks to be a legit top 3-4 B1G team, or better, and imo a team that will run deep in March barring injuries. Totally agree, heck, even with injuries, CAM coaches to 18 wins with walk-ons. Ok, I kid, but 18 wins seems really low. They almost had that last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted October 29, 2018 Report Share Posted October 29, 2018 2 hours ago, Hoosierhoopster said: ^^ No way, in the world, we finish with 18 wins. That's is not the "spectrum." To me that's a cop out for a wild card prediction/forecast. Do agree the range may be pretty broad, given things like questions at the point, but this looks to be a legit top 3-4 B1G team, or better, and imo a team that will run deep in March barring injuries. Agree. At least he is willing to say a possible Final 4 black horse. That is pretty high praise and would love to see us make a deep run in the tournament. I do think at worst we are like a 8/9 seed. If we can get to that 4/5 line or higher we should have a great shot at a sweet 16. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted October 30, 2018 Report Share Posted October 30, 2018 But, but, but....I didn't see Purdue on the list? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUaic Posted October 30, 2018 Report Share Posted October 30, 2018 4 hours ago, rico said: But, but, but....I didn't see Purdue on the list? They made this list: https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaab/2018/10/25/five-teams-snubbed-overrated-college-basketball-preseason-poll/1760944002/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted October 30, 2018 Report Share Posted October 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, IUaic said: They made this list: https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaab/2018/10/25/five-teams-snubbed-overrated-college-basketball-preseason-poll/1760944002/ They belong on that list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StLHoosier Posted October 30, 2018 Report Share Posted October 30, 2018 5 hours ago, IUaic said: They made this list: https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaab/2018/10/25/five-teams-snubbed-overrated-college-basketball-preseason-poll/1760944002/ What I like about that list is they have Loyola as underrated, and we just handled them in the scrimmage. I know it's a scrimmage, but that team plays good team (disciplined) basketball. I take good stock in the details that have leaked from that scrimmage performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierDom Posted October 31, 2018 Report Share Posted October 31, 2018 On 10/29/2018 at 3:02 PM, Hoosierhoopster said: ^^ No way, in the world, we finish with 18 wins. That's is not the "spectrum." To me that's a cop out for a wild card prediction/forecast. Do agree the range may be pretty broad, given things like questions at the point, but this looks to be a legit top 3-4 B1G team, or better, and imo a team that will run deep in March barring injuries. This seems like an entirely fair assessment to me. Our guard play was not tournament caliber last year and our shooting was atrocious. We lost our best guard and our best shooter. We replace him with an elite scorer that may not be a great shooter and who, like our best returning player, seems to be at his best with the ball. We have zero proven, healthy big men (can Smith guard a true big?) and a lot of questions at point guard. It's not hard to imagine Romeo and Morgan gelling, other guys filling just the role they are asked to fill and excelling at it and things going smashingly well. It's also not hard to imagine defenses clogging the lane, Romeo and Morgan being ineffective off the ball, our interior play putting us at a disadvantage nightly and our point guards adding little to the mix. I always feel like teams that can shoot can make up for a lot of other things that don't go right. Teams that can't shoot better get all of the other pieces to work. I'm afraid we fall in the later category: things could still work, but we don't have that margin for error. Only getting 18 wins seems possible to me. Getting 28 does too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUaic Posted October 31, 2018 Report Share Posted October 31, 2018 15 minutes ago, HoosierDom said: This seems like an entirely fair assessment to me. Our guard play was not tournament caliber last year and our shooting was atrocious. We lost our best guard and our best shooter. We replace him with an elite scorer that may not be a great shooter and who, like our best returning player, seems to be at his best with the ball. We have zero proven, healthy big men (can Smith guard a true big?) and a lot of questions at point guard. It's not hard to imagine Romeo and Morgan gelling, other guys filling just the role they are asked to fill and excelling at it and things going smashingly well. It's also not hard to imagine defenses clogging the lane, Romeo and Morgan being ineffective off the ball, our interior play putting us at a disadvantage nightly and our point guards adding little to the mix. I always feel like teams that can shoot can make up for a lot of other things that don't go right. Teams that can't shoot better get all of the other pieces to work. I'm afraid we fall in the later category: things could still work, but we don't have that margin for error. Only getting 18 wins seems possible to me. Getting 28 does too. No way in Hades we only win 18 games. Last year we had Rojo and Morgan until the end when Justin stepped up. This year we are looking at possibly being 10 or 11 deep. We are kicking names and taking a$$ this year and for the foreseeable future. Mark it down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loviubb Posted October 31, 2018 Report Share Posted October 31, 2018 14 minutes ago, HoosierDom said: This seems like an entirely fair assessment to me. Our guard play was not tournament caliber last year and our shooting was atrocious. We lost our best guard and our best shooter. We replace him with an elite scorer that may not be a great shooter and who, like our best returning player, seems to be at his best with the ball. We have zero proven, healthy big men (can Smith guard a true big?) and a lot of questions at point guard. It's not hard to imagine Romeo and Morgan gelling, other guys filling just the role they are asked to fill and excelling at it and things going smashingly well. It's also not hard to imagine defenses clogging the lane, Romeo and Morgan being ineffective off the ball, our interior play putting us at a disadvantage nightly and our point guards adding little to the mix. I always feel like teams that can shoot can make up for a lot of other things that don't go right. Teams that can't shoot better get all of the other pieces to work. I'm afraid we fall in the later category: things could still work, but we don't have that margin for error. Only getting 18 wins seems possible to me. Getting 28 does too. I have have to agree to an extent! IU won 16 games with a non CAM team last year and I think anything under 23 wins this year is under achieving! I have watched IU since the Van ARSDALE TWINS I think we win over26 games go IU! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierhoopster Posted October 31, 2018 Report Share Posted October 31, 2018 51 minutes ago, HoosierDom said: This seems like an entirely fair assessment to me. Our guard play was not tournament caliber last year and our shooting was atrocious. We lost our best guard and our best shooter. We replace him with an elite scorer that may not be a great shooter and who, like our best returning player, seems to be at his best with the ball. We have zero proven, healthy big men (can Smith guard a true big?) and a lot of questions at point guard. It's not hard to imagine Romeo and Morgan gelling, other guys filling just the role they are asked to fill and excelling at it and things going smashingly well. It's also not hard to imagine defenses clogging the lane, Romeo and Morgan being ineffective off the ball, our interior play putting us at a disadvantage nightly and our point guards adding little to the mix. I always feel like teams that can shoot can make up for a lot of other things that don't go right. Teams that can't shoot better get all of the other pieces to work. I'm afraid we fall in the later category: things could still work, but we don't have that margin for error. Only getting 18 wins seems possible to me. Getting 28 does too. I'm not a betting man. That said, I will bet you any amount you want we win more than 18 games. 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FW_Hoosier Posted October 31, 2018 Report Share Posted October 31, 2018 1 hour ago, IUaic said: No way in Hades we only win 18 games. Last year we had Rojo and Morgan until the end when Justin stepped up. This year we are looking at possibly being 10 or 11 deep. We are kicking names and taking a$$ this year and for the foreseeable future. Mark it down. I have a feeling IU is going to grind teams into the dust this year. Up 36-15 at halftime against Loyola? Not the last time they’re gonna hold a team to under 20 points in a half this season. There’s a lot of length and athleticism on the roster this year, and I think they’re gonna be mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierDom Posted February 8, 2019 Report Share Posted February 8, 2019 On 10/30/2018 at 9:52 PM, HoosierDom said: This seems like an entirely fair assessment to me. Our guard play was not tournament caliber last year and our shooting was atrocious. We lost our best guard and our best shooter. We replace him with an elite scorer that may not be a great shooter and who, like our best returning player, seems to be at his best with the ball. We have zero proven, healthy big men (can Smith guard a true big?) and a lot of questions at point guard. It's not hard to imagine Romeo and Morgan gelling, other guys filling just the role they are asked to fill and excelling at it and things going smashingly well. It's also not hard to imagine defenses clogging the lane, Romeo and Morgan being ineffective off the ball, our interior play putting us at a disadvantage nightly and our point guards adding little to the mix. I always feel like teams that can shoot can make up for a lot of other things that don't go right. Teams that can't shoot better get all of the other pieces to work. I'm afraid we fall in the later category: things could still work, but we don't have that margin for error. Only getting 18 wins seems possible to me. Getting 28 does too. I just wanted to bump this thread: both as a petty I-told-you-so and to point out our roster is structurally flawed in a predictable fashion. It is what it is and it isn't Archie's fault. That doesn't mean he is the answer, but he isn't the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billingsley99 Posted February 8, 2019 Report Share Posted February 8, 2019 30 minutes ago, HoosierDom said: I just wanted to bump this thread: both as a petty I-told-you-so and to point out our roster is structurally flawed in a predictable fashion. It is what it is and it isn't Archie's fault. That doesn't mean he is the answer, but he isn't the problem. Many of us were drinking that Crimson kool aid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArchieBall13 Posted February 8, 2019 Report Share Posted February 8, 2019 31 minutes ago, HoosierDom said: I just wanted to bump this thread: both as a petty I-told-you-so and to point out our roster is structurally flawed in a predictable fashion. It is what it is and it isn't Archie's fault. That doesn't mean he is the answer, but he isn't the problem. Some of your preseason points are dead on to what we are experiencing today so props for that. I read the opening post in full without realizing this was a bump of a preseason thread and was super confused. Then it dawned on me...man this season has sucked. That's all I've got Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoHoosier Posted February 8, 2019 Report Share Posted February 8, 2019 Even with the injuries, I didn't see it being an 18 win season. We are a handful of possessions from being close to that total now. We are also a handful of possessions from having a 9-13 record. I still believe IU and Archie are overall trending up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted February 8, 2019 Report Share Posted February 8, 2019 Who wants some crow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted February 8, 2019 Report Share Posted February 8, 2019 I'm glad this is the one pre-season thread I apparently didn't make a prediction in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUCrazy2 Posted February 8, 2019 Report Share Posted February 8, 2019 11 minutes ago, 5fouls said: I'm glad this is the one pre-season thread I apparently didn't make a prediction in. I said if we did not win more than six games in the Big Ten this year that I would eat my hat in another thread. My hat is currently nervous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted February 8, 2019 Report Share Posted February 8, 2019 6 minutes ago, IUCrazy2 said: I said if we did not win more than six games in the Big Ten this year that I would eat my hat in another thread. My hat is currently nervous. For all we know your hat might be made out of chocolate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIHoosier26 Posted February 8, 2019 Report Share Posted February 8, 2019 Some of the expectations in this thread were ridiculous, even before the last 9 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUCrazy2 Posted February 8, 2019 Report Share Posted February 8, 2019 5 minutes ago, rico said: For all we know your hat might be made out of chocolate? I am making arrangements for a more palatable meal. We just need 3 wins... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted February 8, 2019 Report Share Posted February 8, 2019 10 minutes ago, IUCrazy2 said: I am making arrangements for a more palatable meal. We just need 3 wins... Thank God, I made no predictions in this thread either. I was following 5fouls lead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotIThatLives Posted February 9, 2019 Report Share Posted February 9, 2019 3 hours ago, IUCrazy2 said: I said if we did not win more than six games in the Big Ten this year that I would eat my hat in another thread. My hat is currently nervous. 3 hours ago, rico said: For all we know your hat might be made out of chocolate? When you google chocolate hat, there is one very funny thing there on the top row I was not expecting. You may not notice it at first but it exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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